I received an e-mail last week from someone who is sure to become one of my heroes — an electrical engineer turned high school math teacher. He was concerned about the proper use of technology, especially iPads, in the classroom, and had quite specific suggestions for what to do. We’ll probably get to that in my next column but here I’d like to consider his more fundamental idea, which is that technology in schools can be, in many ways, more a distraction than a solution.
“The problem is that I’ve found that all these things that are purported to improve student learning ignore the number one factor in student success, which is the student’s attitude toward learning and motivation,” wrote my new friend the math teacher. “The truth is that if students are motivated to learn, they will learn, pretty much regardless of the specific format or technology that is used in the lessons themselves. Conversely, if a student is not interested in learning, the details of how lessons are presented, technology, etc. don’t matter very much…the student will find whatever way is available to avoid learning…they may socialize with their neighbors, or frequently ask to leave the classroom to go to the bathroom, or simply try to tune out and take a nap during class. Thus, while we focus on how teachers teach, I’m finding that the real key to student success is not so much how you teach but how you go about motivating students to want to learn, and how the systems you use in the classroom help support and encourage students to succeed even when they are not intrinsically motivated by the subject.”
He’s correct. In an ideal world students want to learn and teachers want to teach and the two meet in a common space where knowledge is transferred. Except how often and how well does that really happen?
It happens all the time in some places, like at Stanford where my students used to chase me back to my office after class arguing over some point or other. But not every school can be a Stanford and even there, as at many research universities, much of the faculty doesn’t really want to teach.
Ironically, there was a time when I taught simultaneously at Stanford and Foothill College, a junior college just down the street and a million miles way. I used to joke that Stanford students couldn’t write but at least they could read. But you know that was unfair to my students at Foothill, many of whom were just as dedicated and hard working, though with different expectations.
A lot of this comes down to expectations. And our expectations of technology in education more often than not come down to it being a tool for compensation, either working like an instructional Hamburger Helper to stretch teachers across more students or to literally teach what the present faculty cannot.
One sure-fire success would be a truly great calculus teacher in a box. What would that be worth? Maybe $50,000 per year times 5,000 high schools? There’s your educational startup idea.
Which brings us to costs. Steve Wozniak, who spent a decade and several million dollars working two days a week in the Los Gatos Public Schools when his kids were students there, taught me an important lesson about the price of educational technology. “A desk lasts 25 years, a textbook lasts a decade, and a computer is good for maybe three years: which of those costs the most?” he asked. It was only by putting a decade of educational technology on his credit card that Woz was able to create an ideal environment in Los Gatos, giving every student a notebook computer and Internet access, yet even he would be hard put to say with certainty that it made a consistent difference in student outcomes.
School administrators hate technology, whether they admit it or not, because they don’t understand it and it takes funds away from hiring more teachers. If we go back to our math teacher’s quote, above, you can see why. Because technology for technology’s sake is a crap shoot while hiring teachers who are known to be good at their jobs of inspiring students to learn is pretty close to a sure thing.
Fortunately two things are happening to change these facts of educational life. Technology is getting cheaper, better, broader, and deeper. It’s not good enough or cheap enough yet, but the school PC of today has five times the utility for one fifth the price of 25 years ago (not Moore’s Law numbers, but this is utility, not cycles, we’re talking about). That 25-to-1 improvement is a trend that is only going to get better faster, but I’d say we are still a decade away from the critical mass needed for a true educational renaissance, which I’ll describe below.
The other thing that’s happening is parents are changing. I’ve written about this before but it bears repeating. This week I’ll turn 59, but my kids are 9, 7, and 5 and I talk to the other parents — many of them young enough to be my children — as we wait to get our kids from class or band practice or chess club or science club or basketball practice, or Odyssey of the Mind. Parents aren’t the same as they used to be.
These parents all use computers every day. They grew up with computers. They don’t know a world without computers. And so they may be frustrated by technology as all of us are and may always be, but they aren’t afraid of it and they see its potential. A decade from now one of those parents will be running the school system and another will be running the state department of education. Only then will things really change. And the cool part is that’s about when I think the technology will finally be where it needs to be.
A decade from now technology will be cheaper and the lubricity of acquiring knowledge will be dramatically improved. I think time and space will cease to be factors in the educational experience with the result that the best teachers and the best students will have a far better chance of finding each other. But for the best that’s, what, maybe a 10 percent improvement? After all, these are the already motivated we’re talking about, not the kids who need a little help or a lot. It’s the very normal kids I hope will gain the most from technology, far more than 10 percent.
This goes back to my math teacher quote, above. Motivated students succeed, but since every student is different and every student has a different way to learn best, unless we can design an individual curriculum for each kid, the system won’t be optimized.
My kids go to the best public school in Sonoma County. I know that because I chose my house based on that research. But when Cole finishes his math problems in a quarter the time it takes anyone else in the class, his teacher has him insert a wait state by putting his head down on his desk. Conversely, when some other kid never quite gets the problem set finished, ever, well he/she never gets a rest and never masters the material, either.
The current system is unfair to both kids.
The only solution I can see is one teacher per student. And the only way something close to that is going to happen is through technology. And it’s coming.
Tony Blair’s government spent billions putting computers and internet connectivity into classrooms across the UK with nothing to show for it. Only last week a report said that IT lessons needed a complete overhaul because pupils were being made to sit through hours of dirge about creating Powerpoint presentations.
Meanwhile, 40% of children arriving at secondary school have a reading age of 7, and rampaging grade inflation over 15 years means that universities don’t know how to choose between high school graduates because they all get A grades.
In 40 years, the number of teachers in the UK who have been dismissed for incompetence is 17.
50% of the paid-up membership of the Labour party is said (by parliamentary insiders) to come from members of the teaching “profession”.
It’s such a mess, one would scarcely know where to start. I’d probably axe the futile IT lessons and start teaching programming to those who were receptive. I’d scrap a lot of the distracting computer technology, fire thousands of crap teachers and pay the rest double. Finally I’d abandon Labour’s egalitarian fantasy of 50% of young people going to university. It’s a huge con. Thousands are leaving these places with degrees in performing arts, golf-course management and hairdressing without any prospect of employment. I could go on and on but I’ll shut up now.
The single most damaging principle at work in the UK’s education “system” is probably the national curriculum – a ghastly “one-size-fits-all” idea which fails far too many. Meanwhile teachers are given the job of babysitting our children and weighed down with bureaucracy, management and testing that gives little time for any actual teaching or inspiration. It’s doomed to fail at every level.
It’s certainly doomed to fail while teachers fight tooth and nail against any improvement in their standards whatsoever. Contrary to popular belief, SATS were introduced to test teachers, but the teaching unions have propagated the myth that they were designed to monitor children.
Teachers brought the National Curriculum upon themselves because of their wooden-headed refusal to address under-achievement which went on for years and years. The NUT is the most pernicious barrier to educational attainment and has done more to create a social apartheid in this country than any number of government failings through decades.
I disagree. I was educated in NZ, it had a National Curriculum and used streaming in its secondary schools. The curriculum was sensibly broad and not a limitation in practise. Requiring everybody to receive a pass in School Certificate English or fail the entire exam is no bad thing, though I’d extend that to maths as well.
IMO the big mistake here in the UK was to allow the teaching unions to get rid of teacher grading. NZ had that, with every teacher being inspected in the classroom on an annual basis and salary reflecting their grades. As a result, I never encountered an incompetent teacher and many of them were very good indeed.
In summary, the enemy is not the curriculum. It is poor teaching combined with grade inflation, which is connived at by the entire school educational system.
Grade inflation in the UK’s A and O levels is blindingly obvious to anybody with a basic knowledge of biology and statistics: evolution teaches that there are NO detectable increases in human intelligence within a decade, the unmonitored UK teachers are unlikely to improve over the same timescale, yet A level passes rise by several percentage points each year. OF COURSE the scores are being fiddled.
Grade inflation is just the educational equivalent of “update culture” in the commercial world where everything has to have regular updates and a new model every 12 months. Bigger, better, faster trivia. Until we get rid of this way of thinking, and stop when things are good enough for purpose, we will always have problems doing really new things and getting important things right.
No, its much worse than that. Its a more or less direct product of the introduction of schools league tables by the Blair government. The immediate effect of this was a mass outbreak of “teaching the test and only the test” as schools tried to climb in the leagues. This has since mutated into a current pathological condition, with the O and A level examiners supplying teachers with the year’s questions at the start of the year.
The result: increasingly poorly educated school leavers: parroting test answers isn’t even a slight approximation to “a good education” and until everybody from the Minister for Education down realizes this and schools[*] start teaching students how to learn rather then cramming them with answers to tests, the effect on the country’s future economic prospects remain dire.
Conversely, in the early 80s the government of Margaret Thatcher subsidised the purchase of BBC micros for every school in the UK, with no particular demand to do anything with them, and largely created the modern British software industry.
I’m a product of the UK system, sitting for both O-levels and A-levels 40+ years ago as the only American in my school. There were no computers, of course, and the teachers were very good as I recall, but maybe I was just lucky in my choice of schools. What bothered me, though, was the habit of teaching to the test, which we see more and more in this country now that no child is supposedly left behind. We sometimes spend more time testing than we do teaching. That wasn’t good in Liverpool in 1967 and it isn’t good today.
My problem with the whole system is teaching to the test. Teaching to the test should be a minimum standard. Getting a real education should be the maximum. This happens very rarely in any school.
My son is getting a poor education in the exact same school where my daughters got a very good education. Why? Because he is labeled dyslexic. Now I am here to tell you my son is a real lot smarter than his sisters. He IQ tests out far higher than his sisters. The School system is wasting a very smart mind.
How to fix it?
This is where the ghost of Steve Jobs needs to come in. What can every kid from 2 years old on up in the world do. Yes, they can all use an IPhone. What can you put on an IPhone. Everything one needs to know from pre-school through high school. There would still leave a lot of memory left over for everything else. What does every kid in the USA have now. Yes, they have a cell phone. Yes, this eliminates the costs to the school. So all we need to do is get an education available on the cell phone and get the teachers to coordinate with what is out there now and make the home work work with the cell phone.
Now you should be going nuts the your kid is “sleeping” in math class at school. The teacher should know where he is. Allow him to keep moving forward via Kahn Academy so he gets the real education he deserves. Then, if the teacher had any brains put the smart kids with the “dumb” kids and have them teach the rest to mastery of the subject. Rotate the smart kids around as different versions of the same thing can turn on the light bulb in the “dumb” kids. Poof, no more “dumb” kids.
Now the real problem is the 50 percent high school drop out rate in the big and little cities. A solution like the above would allow all to learn and “Still look cool”. I know why the failure rate is so high. Extremely low expectations. I was driving through a poor school district at the end of school recently. What was wrong here. I am looking at the kids. Looking and Looking. Not one kid had a book bag of any kind. In my school district the kids have bad backs because the book bag is to heavy. What is wrong here? Why is it even happening? Why are expectations so LOW?
I am still waiting for the NAACP class action lawsuit to sue the cities provide the education they already paid for and did not get.
It shouldn’t be the “job” of the smart kids to teach the dumb kids. I want my kid to learn continuously in school, not waste time doing the job of the teacher and school.
The reason why you use smart kids to teach is to prove they have mastered the subject. As a teacher part time. If you can teach it you clearly know the subject. Plus you get to use social pressure to move the whole class forward. This is not a smart kid job. The teacher still must teach the class. It is using assets you have to make the whole better. Show me a teacher who does not learn from the kids and I can show you a bad teacher.
Yes, it is coming, and I’ve had a taste of it.
This last fall (2011) I took the online Stanford Intro to Artificial Intelligence class. I got to learn from two of the world’s leading A.I. experts (Peter Norvig and Sebastian Thrun); I could watch the lectures again and again, hit the pause button and really study what the professor had written, let some point sink in, do some calculations of my own, and then continue on. I could do the homework and take the exams on my own schedule, a little here, a little there, after hours when the wife and kids where alseep and I had no appointments, meetings or distractions.
It. Was. Awesome.
I can’t wait for this to become the norm!
The thing is, you wanted to be there. In high school (and to a lesser extend undergraduate college), a decent portion of students don’t. The trick is to not only get those students to learn, but as Bob said, to want to be there and learn.
I’ve heard from several teachers in my kids’ school district, and when you’ve got one kid disrupting the class because s/he doesn’t want to be there, the lesson goes to hell.
Well, you’ll be getting a chance to learn more – they’re taking it for-profit:
Massive Courses, Sans Stanford
Inside Higher Ed (01/24/12) Steve Kolowich
Stanford University professor Sebastian Thrun and University of Virginia professor David Evans have launched Know Labs, a for-profit enterprise designed to offer affordable high-quality college courses to tens of thousands of students through Udacity, an online learning portal. Thrun will teach a course on autonomous vehicles and Evans will teach an introductory course in computer science.
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The Know Labs model is based on the success of Stanford’s open online courses, which debuted last fall.
View Full Article: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/01/24/stanford-open-course-instructors-spin-profit-company
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on Khan Academy, Bob, specifically because Sal Khan’s TED talk addresses the problem you raise pretty much head on. In a nutshell, he’s proposing flipping education inside out, by letting students self-study coursework at home in their own time, and do exercises and one-on-one sessions in class – the opposite of the standard classwork-vs-homework model. The idea seems to be bearing fruit in some trials, but there’s a degree of confirmation bias in the coverage. Do you think the model is workable? Scalable? Practical?
The Khan Academy site has some smart tools for educators to track student progress (and, presumably, for education _systems_ to track educators in turn). I like the degree of insight you can get into individual performance and problem areas – upside-down model or not, that seems to have potential too.
I bring it up also because it’s something I’ve been looking at for African environments, where a cheap Indian tablet, running Android and preloaded with several years’ worth of math curriculum from a source like Khan, could actually be cheaper than a single year’s textbook. There have been a couple of pilot schemes initiated, but nothing concrete has taken off yet – the predictable issues all need to be overcome. I’m confident they will. But as a concept, I think it has some real potential. Any thoughts? Certainly education systems around the world are long overdue a shake-up!
I have been unable to convince my daughter’s teacher to take a look at Khan Academy. She’s not stupid or even technologically ignorant – they have computers and projectors in the classroom and she’s young, first child is only 3. So she’ll get there, but they sent a note home asking that we not teach certain subjects at home, lest we use methods other than what they were teaching. Those methods are pretty slick, but I had to email her for permission to continue working at home with my daughter on Khan Academy. Khan’s talk suggests that a classroom-wide approach would allow more individualized attention and instruction for those who need it and I would love to see it in action, but yeah, it’s a hard sell. I can appreciate that – I’d be annoyed if my daughter’s teacher told me how to do my job (a field she’s not versed in) but at the same time, I know that everyone thinks its their right to tell teachers how to do theirs. In this case, though, it feels like a missed opportunity if she won’t watch the TED talk.
“they sent a note home asking that we not teach certain subjects at home, lest we use methods other than what they were teaching.”
Seriously?!? I would run from that school as fast as I could. My wife and I teach our son things all the time.
I guess they discourage reading too? Can’t have kids learning something from a book outside class.
Run, don’t walk, away from any institution that requires you to ask permission to teach your own kids. That’s absolute horse shit and evidence of an insular system both disconnected from the real world and probably afraid of that world.
I emphatically underscore what Tanner & RXC said: get your child out of that school as fast as you can!
Sure, there are lots of things that teachers learn in college/university about pedagogy, etc, but we all have learned. You as a parent *MUST* teach your children many things. Any teacher that claims that exclusive role has an arrogance or cluelessness without bound.
I would say that the greater variety of ways you can teach your children, the more likely they are to teach themselves in a multitude of ways.
+1 for the Kahn Academy, I think this is at least part way to the answer bob is looking for.
I agree that Khan is on to something with the concept of flipping classwork and homework.
Spending per student on education has doubled in the last decade, with nothing to show for it. Mostly, it’s technology for technology’s sake, flashy facilities and the latest fads.
Also, I hate to say this, but the school environment has become so feminized, that boys have a very hard time expressing themselves naturally, and being motivated.
I’ve met Sal Khan, who seems to be the real deal — a brilliant and inspired educational innovator. What I like best about Khan and his program, however, is that it ATTRACTS students and parents, rather than being SOLD to them in any sense. Sal knows you can give a student a book but you can’t make him read.
This may be great for young adults who already have a solid educational grounding but kids would probably find Call of Duty distracting them from their coursework for 80% of the day.
This is true. I think the idea that education stops at the classroom door, and that parents can assume children and educators will magically take care of it without parental involvement, guidance and discipline, is very mistaken.
A child left alone to play CoD for 80% of their day, is a child without parental guidance. And I don’t think you can’t blame the child for that.
Eek, double negative. “don’t think you CAN”. Apparently I played too many computer games during English classes 🙂
Video Games – that’s not a problem, that’s an opportunity! But, and it’s a big but, they need to be presented in the right context.
In a very real sense, I owe my livelihood to (love of) video games, yet my job and career of the last two decades which has paid for my house, cars, family, vacations, etc. has zero, zip, nada to do with games.
In junior high our school had a single Apple IIc. If we finished our work ahead of time, and it was done right, we could go use it. Ostensibly to learn programming or somesuch but really it was to play Castle Wolfenstein (the *real* one, with puzzles and strategy and disguises, not the Doom precursor. The controls were so difficult it took two at once, one to control movement and the other to aim and fire).
Just after high school I Iived with a man who said, yeah sure you can use that computer (Tandy 1000 and DOS 2.5 if memory serves). Yeah there’s some games on it. No I’m not going to tell you how to get them started (though I’ll start one for you just this once). However if you transcribe this document I’ll show you one or two commands that will get you there, eventually. Which led to: ‘cd’ to change directory, ‘dir’ to list contents, ‘foo.exe’ to see what that program does. A few days later I learned how to get into Zork and Planetfall by myself. (All Hail InfoCom!). Some weeks after that, as I continued to poke about to see what ‘bar.exe’ and ‘snafu.com’ did I learned, to my extreme consternation, that ‘fdisk.exe’ in illiterate hands is a dangerous weapon. I killed the computer. It couldn’t do *anything*. Oh sh*t.
When I finally copped to my misdemeanor my mentor just smiled and said, “well this is a good time to upgrade DOS”, and proceeded to teach me how to partition and format a hard drive and install an operating system from scratch. He talked, I did. (A process I’ve repeated countless times since, and for good money.) Somewhere along the line here some new games showed up, the most memorable being Leisure Suite Larry (ooooh! graphics!, sounds!).
Some years later, I was often hanging around an office in the building where my father worked. Waiting for rides I suppose. The manager said well, if you’re here anyway you might as well digitize these maps (and there’s a game you can play afterwards…). After some months I was on the payroll, doing a more work, and more games. Here I learned about modems, BBSes, and FidoNET — where one could talk about and acquire: you guessed it, games! Modems in these days were fussy things. You had to know what jumpers to set, what COM ports to configure for, handle IRQ conflicts (don’t interfere with the sound card! that messes up the games!), and a myriad of other things.
In this time period network DOOM! came out. That was just too cool to let go by, but before we could get it to work I needed to learn how to wire BNC cable, install network cards (DMA and IRQ conflicts rear their ugly heads again), and figure out what parts of novell ipx/spx to load and ignore, without running out of ram under the 1024k barrier. It took a month, but we did it. At the end, after the frag-fest had died to a dull roar (many days), the office had a working and stable local area network that completely transformed how business was done for years to come.
I’m now 41 and haven’t played a video game in a serious way for more than a decade, other stuff is more interesting. Yet all my core computing skill sets were learned because of wanting to play games. This speaks directly to the theme of motivation in the article. Games were my motivation.
The kids I see are at least as game motivated as I was, but by and large there is no appreciable distance between the desire and the result, and consequently little opportunity to learn. Fire up a browser and type “online games” or what have you and there you are, games galore. One of Apple’s most successful memes is that “a two year old can do it”, and so they can.
I’m not calling for a return to difficult computing environments, I think the usability and user experience professions are among the most interesting and beneficial developments to date. The point is: the motivation is there, we just need to think about how to wield it intelligently.
must be something in the air this week; Cecil Adam’s “Why video games are good for you” column today is apropos:
https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3034/why-video-games-are-good-for-you
The big problem with American schools is they resolutely refuse to put students into different ability levels regardless of their age. Take Grades 1-6 and have a math curriculum that progresses from simple addition to calculus. The students enter the stream at their level, and then after passing the requisite test of mastery move up to the next level. The kids who can’t pass stay at that level until they can pass the exam. This motivates _all_ the students to do better by striving for an achievement that does not simply come by default every June, and to study at their proper level and ability. Then publicly display the top 10% of students in each age group in the school trophy and award area. These are the kids to be respected and admired, not the kid who can throw a perfect spiral pass. The problem with US education has nothing to do with technology but with the structure of the system itself. Ironically a recent NYT article showed that the elite private schools in Silicon Valley use absolutely not technology whatsoever in their classrooms.
As a current teacher in a pretty progressive (though not wealthy) district, I can tell you that education is going in that direction, and the only way to achieve that is with technology. It’s hard enough for one teacher to differentiate instruction to a class of 25, so individualizing instruction is practically impossible. With computers (iPads, Khan Academy, etc.), it can happen. There’s just not the industry set up right now to give these individualized programs. Give me a small staff and a year, and I’ll create something amazing. The textbook companies, though, want to stay stuck in 2009, where they could charge $$$ for hard copy textbooks – why change the paradigm if it means ruining their cash cow?
No, the NY Times showed that WALDORF schools don’t allow technology. Channing went to a Waldorf preschool for awhile. They demanded that each child have a parent present for the entire school session but the parents were specifically prohibited from being involved in instruction. Instead we were supposed to KNIT. I am not making this up. Twenty parents who could have been doing something useful with their lives were instead sitting along one classroom wall submissively knitting away. You either drink the Flav-r-Ade or you don’t. I couldn’t do it.
Happy to see Odyssey of the Mind/ Destination Imagination is still around. All three of my children participated and had great learning experiences.
In primary school 30 years ago, we had a trolley with a range of puzzle/question books, ranging in levels from A to Z. Eash student could work at their own pace through the books and would bring their book to the teacher to go over their answers. This let us all work at our own level, while still getting one-on-one access to our teacher when we needed it.
These days the books might be electronic and there may be aids to collect/analyse the responses, but really there’s a lot that can be done to improve learning without requiring special technology.
“The only solution I can see is one teacher per student. And the only way something close to that is going to happen is through technology.”
It will be interesting to see whether technology can duplicate the kind of one-on-one teaching routinely enjoyed by home schoolers.
1+1=2 whether it is on a piece of paper or an iPad. I think technology in schools is important, in Technology classes. There are definitely some exceptions, like smartboards, however I dont see why every student needs a tablet or notebook in order to learn. Don’t even get me started on the texting generation that can’t spell four letter words or know the difference between “they’re”, “their” or “there”, giving them a spell check (easy outs in general) won’t learn em nothin.
For better or worse, “they’re”, “their” or “there” is a problem for people way older than texters.
Well, as many teachers as are optimal per subject per kid; spaced repetition systems, video lectures, problem sets e.g. Euler Project, discussion e.g. usenet or web fora, tutoring via chat (automated chat tutor bot would be very cool, working on it)… I have hope. Lab is gonna be hands-on for a while, I think, though a lot of the obvious screwups/learning experiences like starting to count seconds at 1 instead of 0 are available virtually.
Ever since Gutenberg it has theoretically been possible for a motivated individual to educate themselves without a teacher. Anyone with access to a decent Public library could in theory educate themselves to at least bachelors degree level and even beyond. Yet the number of people who have actually done this and educated themselves through solely through the technology of books is very very small. Statistically insignificant in fact.
Computers and any other technology are not going to replace human teachers or really make much of a splash in education at all while they are just a fancier form of book. They may replace books if they work out cheaper economically but they won’t revolutionise education just by replacing books.
Computers will replace human teachers when they can read and understand (or at least sufficiently categorise) their human pupils. Perhaps the reason that a lot of the educational software written to date is so bad (and a lot of it is bad) is because it is developed by teachers. Maybe it should be developed by poker players.
My suggestion, even when I served as a school board trustee, was to give each student the final at the beginning of the school year and then again at the end of the school year. Measure the change and use that as the measure of a teacher’s success. This would encourage the education professionals to use “all” tools at their disposal to excite students to want to learn. This puts the accountability of teaching where it belongs square on the shoulder of a paid professional (even if poorly paid as that is another discussion). Do away with standardize tests, do away with evaluations by “administrators” of a teacher’s presentation methods and focus on results – what was achieved in a year spent with a teacher.
Then you’re simply encouraging teaching to a test?!?!
That would be some abusers… but the only professor that I had in college that did just what I suggested was my absolute favorite and I walked away with way more than the ability to just “pass” a test.
I agree on all points.
The technology we employ to educate our children might be called iParents. We’re tech-savvy and employ the internet and devices to augment our one-on-one teaching. We have 4 little ones and our ability to home school is made much easier because of the technology available. (e.g. Khan Academy has been a boon for my wife, a math-o-phobe. She’s now able to oversee math training, when I am not home.)
Whether at-school or home school we’re running out of ways to avoid the crux of the problem…motivation…of parents, of children, of educators.
Thanks for the great post!
The #1 issue in ed is the achievement gap between whites and the rest. Unless technology can close that gap, it won’t matter and won’t get funded. The gap is the first, last and only priority. Some resist the exclusive focus on the gap (the math teachers in SV are in open revolt against the unrealistic requirements), but nothing gets in the way of closing the gap. Especially tracking.
bjk’s point is important.
Nothing will help a kid do well when achievement is actively shunned by his or her peers. When good grades get you beaten up at recess, we have a tragedy. Rich neighborhoods enable effort and success. How do we support poor ones so their children approach their potential? I weep for that lost contribution to society.
One hopes in the that technology might help improve the situation…. The problem lies elsewhere though. Just look at the Finnish model for a good example of highly successful initiative at the entire country level. And it wasn’t technology that helped. Not one bit. Just read the article linked to below, it is highly instructive:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/
Remarkable! I think that gets to bjk’s point.
Thanks! Great read.
Americans still think that their everyone-has-the-same-chances-model is working. But statistics show that if you are from a poor family the chances of you getting rich are much smaller than if you are from a rich family. America could learn from the enforced equity model in Finland.
I have always been a highly self-motivated student, and I got a pretty good practical & liberal (in the original sense of the word) education, sometimes despite the best efforts of the public school system (if I were to encounter my 3rd-grade teacher today, I would cheerfully punch her in the mouth, but I would guess she’s been dead for a couple of decades, so I’m safe there).
One of the things that I discovered fairly early on is that I enjoy teaching — and that teaching is probably the absolute best way I’ve ever discovered to master a subject. I’m kinda like the guy who said, “When I want to learn something, I try to get a contract to teach it. When I’ve taught it enough times to learn it really well, I write a book on it.” (Sorry I can’t recall the name of the consultant who said that)
Bob,
You said: “My kids go to the best public school in Sonoma County. I know that because I chose my house based on that research.”
Would you mind sharing some of the research tools you used? My twins are almost ready for 1st grade and I’m finding it very difficult to get objective information on school performance; we’re looking to move to someplace with better schools (AZ public schools are *not* particularly good, based on the limited information I’ve obtained.).
We looked at scores, read websites, etc., but in the end we did what I nearly always do which was look people in the eye. We visited candidate schools, observing, and asking questions. We have three kids so one great teacher was not enough.
You can feel the energy of a school and pretty quickly get a sense of where it is going. We wanted a school that clearly aspired to be even better and we found it.
Yet next year we’re moving Channing to a nearby charter school we think might be better for him and the year after I think we’ll try homeschooling everyone since I’ll have a big TV project then that promises to take us all over the world. I can’t deny my kids that kind of experience.
The problem I see is we know very little about learning, some people in tech think it’s about data access. Give it a billion similar points and we filter the underlying rule, statistical learning.
But if one teaches a machine basic math it becomes pretty clear that math is culture, based on a parallel concept “all” not a billion repeating data points[nothing is “false”]. From there except[first hint of “false”], sequences, ordering, counting, …. Hence one-two-many cultures are not that different.
I have a 11 year old, from talking to teachers most know nothing about how we organize data and why we do it individuality differently. Tech won’t help, specially if teachers and kids believe computers are “smart” since they are good at repetition.
BTW, if that is the best your county school can provide for your kid: MOVE.
I’m amazed that I am the first here to say it…
Happy birthday Bob!
Lots of important points here.
But we still have a long way to go when somebody who is involved and thoughtful, can write, “if students are motivated to learn, they will learn, pretty much regardless of the specific format or technology that is used in the lessons themselves.”
Because that’s simply begging the question, saying success or failure has nothing to do with instructional materials, teachers, schedules, social pressures, etc. Learning will automatically follow from learning.
Our society greatly benefits from all kids graduating with a good education, not to mention our obligation to steer them in a helpful way. If their motivation is the issue (and how could it not be?), then our schools should be looking for ways that kids get positive feedback the more they work to their potential. That might be gold stars; maybe a phone call or email to parents about the new “A” on a quiz (help the parents find ways to positively engage; most parents are making it up as they go, too!).
Or turning chemical reactions into a video game where being able to predict the compound that results from Fe + O2, gets you to the next level, and the game tests you just enough times to be sure you have the concept down before it spends more of its time on other challenges.
I’m no longer an educator or trustee, but believe that we have a huge body of experience about learning, and ought to express THAT as a comprehensive system. Before we worry about e-books’ expense, or whether kids will be playing games, how stretched or under-paid teachers are, etc..
@WaltFrench: I think you misread the quote. It’s not begging the question, since he goes on to say: “I’m finding that the real key to student success is not so much how you teach but how you go about motivating students to want to learn, and how the systems you use in the classroom help support and encourage students to succeed even when they are not intrinsically motivated by the subject.” (Unless it was TLDR for you 😉 )
A comprehensive system of learning? Will it encompass “best practices”? (Which will stifle innovation, because it will be unacceptable to fail, except in an approved manner. Education of children is such an emotional subject that I can imagine people declaring it “a crime” to mis-educate a child.)
Is it your birthday today, Bob? If so, then many happy returns of the day!
By chance, I happen to be reading “A Jane Austen Education” by William Deresiewicz, and the chapter I’m on is “Northhanger Abbey – Learning to Learn”. The theme I find there is that a great teacher can inspire (not instill) a love of learning.
My gut feeling is that technology is overrated – but then I’m a software developer, and outside of work I revert to gardens and acoustic music.
Still, back in the day, when I was ten or twelve, a local college tried broadcasting the lectures for a course on physical geography on a newly designated UHF educational station as a summer school class. I watched the shows, and my mother indulged me both by buying the text book and by signing me up for the final exam. At the college they were non·plussed to have a child there, but they allowed me to take the exam. So perhaps I simply don’t appreciate what technology can do for education.
— T
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A really good teacher would have Cole… and any other advanced student… help the student that does not quite get it. If every learner is a teacher, the system works better and scores rise.
And you’re right, Bob. The biggest factor is a motivated student, and the key to that is the parents. and this comes from a teacher with 30 years experience, who is almost as old as Bob!
Cole isn’t being well served and it comes down to the quality of teaching, you are correct. He’s the only one of our children who doesn’t like school. He’s not challenged and his teacher doesn’t know what to do with him, frankly. I’m considering my options there. This is a kid who taught himself to read in preschool without instruction and without even telling us what was happening. Around his fourth birthday he just announced that he was going to read us a book and DID. His command of math is at least equal to his very smart brother who is two years older and Cole lacks Channing’s hesitancy about math — he GETS it. But for these very reasons Cole isn’t what we are talking about here. There’s no doubt that — bored or not – he’ll end up educated and on some fast track. I need to do more for him but we all need to do more for those who aren’t like him.
Thanks for this post. Quite coincidentally, I came across this article today, addressing what the authors call the “2-sigma” problem, or, optimizing classroom learning to attain efficient levels on par with one-on-one tutoring:
http://edtechdigest.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/how-education-fails-technology-and-what-to-do-about-it/
I’m in Celtic Fiddler’s camp — all of my best learning has, sadly, been self-guided. I left public schools knowing I’d never been challenged. I’m taking an MBA course currently, and my best points of learning have been either self-led, or within my study group. And I think that’s sad. God bless me for being lucky enough to want to learn, but for all the rest, the education system is like a machine with gears that don’t mesh — if you don’t know how to thrive, the system won’t help you. That’s the trick that needs to be fixed — and personally, no amount of software, or gimmickry will sort it. This is a people problem, not a hardware problem.
One point I’d like to see in your son’s case — wouldn’t his time be better served, when done, if he were allowed to help the other slow learners? I’ve found in my recent study group experience that reviewing the material with slower learners served to cement the knowledge for me, as well as improve my ability to express/communicate what I understood. So, I tightened up what I knew, and was able to do even better at exam times. I wonder if your school system would allow that? Additionally, for him, as he worked these problems through, he’d end up exploring many edge cases that might not have popped up as he ran through the basic material.
Bob, I’ve been reading you since Infoworld. This is the best thing you’ve written in a while.
The student-teacher ratio is among the most compelling reasons that we spent 13 years home-schooling our two youngsters. There is no school in our price range that can compete with the immediate attention of a mentor. Home-schooling saved us money over private school, true, but it cost our household my wife’s income during those years: she chose to give our kids the time they needed rather than boosting our bottom-line. Now that the kids are earning high marks in college, we’re more confident that it was the right decision.
Your example of your son taking a nap after finishing his work before the rest provides an opportunity for your son to help fellow classmates that are having a harder time with the math. Could you suggest to him to ask his teacher if he could help one of the slower students? This would give your son a chance to solidify the lesson he already knows and help the slower student learn what he needs.
Great idea but they didn’t go for it. The teacher means well but simply isn’t ready for a Cole on one hand and another student in the class who has emotional or mental issues and is very disruptive. She spends so much time on alert for the latter (Cole is often his target) that having more than one student functioning independently (one bad, one good) is too much for her. This is just a bad year for Cole. I’m working on a solution.
Motivating students is the core of the problem as your Math teacher friend says.
So provide incentives to completing some segment of the online courseware by allowing the student to select a reward – e.g. a key to unlock the next level of or some amount of in-game currency. Of course keys would need to be unique for each game/student/level instance, or the smart kids would trade keys like they currently trade answers.
This article goes all over the place, abundantly full of caveats. However, lets focus on the ad hoc introduction of technology. Where is the criticism on the introduction of the clay tablet or, later, the pencil and slide rule?
Make that “unlock the next level of hot game du jour or some amount of in-game currency” – forgot these comment blocks don’t allow angle bracketed text.
If the only solution you can see is something as impractical as one teacher per student (and I understand that you point may have been rhetorical – that we can aspire to narrow the teacher-to- student deficit with technology), then I am glad you are not anyone we are relying on to come up with solutions.
Do you talk to your friends this way?
He brought up the same question that came to me when I reached the end of your column. I agreed with the entire column except the “one teacher per student” remark at the end. I figured you didn’t mean that literally, but I still wonder what you meant by it.
Smartboards, iPads, laptops, it doesn’t matter. The human is what really matters, and tech is just the means to an end. Some ideas, such as going with Google docs, are platform neutral and allow a wide variety of students access to the same tools. When the rich kids have all the advantages, such as smartphones/laptops/iPads, this helps to level the playing field a bit.
There are a lot of families out there that can’t afford a $300 laptop, so they’re dependent upon a local library’s PC or the school’s computer room being open after school hours to get their kids’ school work done. Even then, how many of them are latchkey kids because the parents work and can’t afford daycare?
When the emphasis in the country is on education, good things can happen. However, too many school districts have to deal with people who complain that “things were better back in the 50s when I was taught my ABCs,” and “why can’t you smack kids around anyway like the nuns used to do?” The same people who have no problems picking up a smartphone or using a laptop for work fail to see that maybe, just maybe, their kids should have these devices integrated into their education. Instead, they’d rather spend their money on a new smartphone for themselves rather than vote for a school levy that helps to provide busing for the students in the district.
The only real factor in quality education is the teacher. All the inservices, training, curriculum adoption, testing, more testing, etc… doesn’t mean a hill of beans without great teachers. What does it take to be a great teacher! Passion. Passion for your subject yes, but even more so a passion for your students. If you love math, and you love your students and work to build relationships with them – then they will begin to love math and will be motivated.
Technology is a tool. A great tool. A much better tool than a textbook or a piece of chalk. But unless it’s in the hands of a great teacher, it might as well be a rock.
As far as factors of education: Teacher quality is good—parent quality is better.
In elementary school, I was a B to C student whose parents used to get letters from my teachers that I didn’t apply myself. It turns out, I had difficulty with the structured lecture pace and was bored.
When I went to Verona Jr High in Mississippi, I got to learn at my own pace with their new LAP (Learning Activity Package) program. I was given a list of pages to read, questions to answer, and when ready, the test to take. I went right to getting straight A’s. I was halfway through 8th grade science by the end of 7th grade.
Later, they did have to sync the tests to prevent some students from knowing the questions ahead of time. For many students, there is a great advantage to learning at their own pace.
And maybe the real leap will come when we start thinking a whole lot differently about the teacher – student paradigm in the first place.
If 1 teacher to 1 student is better, wouldn’t 10 teachers to 1 student be even better?
What if everyone is both a teacher and a student? Surely each of us can teach something to someone else. Certainly each of us can learn something from someone else.
My son is learning to play the bass guitar by watching youtube videos. He promised me he would mow the lawn all summer and I promised him a bass guitar and Fender amp.
Kids are teaching each other. The next iteration of the social network is the teaching, not gossiping.
Robert, I really like this post. My wife and I spent a couple hours this weekend talking about the state of education as it relates to technology. Of course it was prompted by the iPad announdement last week.
She is the PTA president at the elementary school where my two oldest attend and has a unique perspective due to her relationship with the staff and knowledge of the budgetary challenges.
Her primary concern is that spending limited money on new methods like the iPad would take away from funds that could be used to pay good teachers. In essence, an iPad based curriculum could result in lower teacher to child ratios. It is a sore subject in our district, as we had to give up a handful of teacher’s aids and teachers this year due to budget shortfalls. I’d guess that your last sentence-
“The only solution I can see is one teacher per student. And the only way something close to that is going to happen is through technology. And it’s coming.”
– is more of a positive idea, where the tech would allow for more customized learning plans for individuals with different needs.
I wonder, is that what you were getting at?
Your district isn’t the only one hard hit like that. Ours is too, and the district ended up cutting strings from the elementary schools. At the same time, their online presence is increasing, but the kicker here is that the school district got grants to run those tech pilot programs. However, to the average parent, it seems like the district cut strings in favor of tech, and when you cut music or art or phys ed, that kind of sticks in people’s craw.
Yes anytime one’s pet subject is reduced, you can expect some complaining. But deep down inside, eveyone understands the need to prioritize and the reasons for cutting back on less essential skills.
There is a catholic HS here that produces outstanding students. Their college test scores are crazy high. There are a number things they do that are worth noting. First, and obviously they hire great teachers. Next they challenge the kids. The kids are given a lot of work to do. They learn quickly how to budget their time and work efficiency. Next they challenge the kids. They set high goals and then help the kids achieve them.
The school also has some interesting and unique things. Their school day is longer. They break it up into three parts. The kids get two lengthy breaks each day. Everyone has a limits on their attention span. The school figured out (decades ago) that if kids are given a good break, they will do better throughout the day. The kids have 3 periods, a break, 2 periods, a break and lunch, and the last 2 periods. You’d be amazed what the school has in its basement for the kids to do during the breaks.
The final factor is motivation. The kids WANT to go to this school. Once they are there they learn to enjoy the energy, the challenges, and the successes. They WANT to stay in this school. The kids learn the extra work has a purpose and value and benefits them personally.
This school is almost 200 years old and is without a doubt the best school the state. You’d think that with such a shining example in town there would be more schools like it. Sadly there aren’t and for many very stupid reasons.
As I said before, we don’t know much about learning. But we know a lot more than 10 years ago. Even some is old knowledge which has to be rediscovered.
Some “testing” requirements to provide metrics to “rank” a school have the opposite effect, i.e crammed learning/teaching. Test,forget, repeat. We know that “surprises” foster learning on neuron level, yet we (sometimes) teach in boredom.
I wonder if throwing iPads at the problem of not understanding learning will help. Or CARGO CULT EDUCATION.
A Better Way to Remember
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110617105943.htm
Good or Bad: Surprises Drive Learning in Same Neural Circuits
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111207000755.htm
Mathematics
https://www.fordham.edu/academics/programs_at_fordham_/mathematics_departme/what_math/index.asp
Sounds interesting. Can you share the school’s name and Web site?
The thing is, how much of this is a chicken-and-egg scenario? Is it the motivated students and parents who make the difference, or the curriculum? Private schools can pick and choose who they want and use tuition as a gatekeeper.
Anyone interested in this topic should read “Disrupting Class” by Clayton Christensen A lot of good information and ideas about the future of technology in education and how we humans learn in general. Also a really interesting perspective on how we (the USA) got the public education system we have, and how it is doing a better job than we give it credit for. I have read it twice already, and it will probably take 2-3 more reads to digest it all.
No John Taylor Gatto fans out there?
Read DUMBNG US DOWN.
Read the UNDERGROUND HISTORY OF AMERICAN EDUCATION on-line!
Read WEAPONS of MASS INSTRUCTION.
School’s purpose is to level the masses so they are easier to control.
It works better than you might think. Don’t let your ego fool you into thinking otherwise.
In America, we accept the idea that athletic “scholarships” be awarded purely on merit, but resist the idea that academic scholarships be awarded on anything other than need or ethnicity. Parents respond accordingly. So do many kids.
Having taught continuing ed technology classes for 20+ years, I have some first-hand knowledge of technology in the classroom. One of the more promising things I’ve see is the New York City public schools ‘School of One’ project based on the motto ‘Choose your modality’ taken from corporate training. One of the better treatments I’ve seen was at Freananomics Radio. The comment box will probably butcher the url, but you can find it at the address below. Great food for thought.
https://www.wnyc.org/articles/freakonomics-podcast/2011/dec/21/how-bad-radio-station-our-public-school-system-encore/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+freakonomicsradio+%28Freakonomics+Radio%29&utm_content=FeedBurner
Here is my first-person ironic comment about the state of education in North America…
At the age of 17 I was “advised” by a high-school counselor that school wasn’t for me and that I should drop out. This was based on my poor grades, lack of interest, and a belief that I wasn’t going to amount to a hill-of-bean in the real world. She had me pegged as someone with a bright future on a factory line stamping out plastic spoons.
At the age of 24 I was invited to teach computer animation at the college I had attended (as a “mature student”, which sidestepped the requirement for the high school diploma that I never received), even though I had not technically completed the course (I’d been offered a full time position in the industry after completing less than half the program – the faculty decided that since getting a job in the industry was the intended goal of the program, I’d *technically* met the requirement to graduate). As I was offered the job before I’d received my diploma, this caused quite a bit of confusion to the administrators who were asked to process my acceptance.
In retrospect, the educational system had sucked dry any interest I’d had in learning, but I was astoundingly fortunate that my parents had been willing to buy me an Apple ][ (after I’d spent a long summer repainting every room in the house) and a 300 baud modem. Using BBS’s taught me how to write – a skill that over a decade of schooling had failed to do – simply by forcing me to craft a coherent thought in eight lines of forty-character text. For some people, it turns out, the paragraph is a mysterious and powerful entity which does not come naturally.
Technology, when properly directed, can have an enormously powerful effect on education. I’m pretty much in agreement with all of Bob’s points, and I honestly believe that nothing short of massive restructuring of the educational system will suffice in addressing the failures in North American schooling. Just tossing a bunch of hardware at schools is not the answer.
Although we live in an information-rich era, we still have an educational system that was structurally defined to meet the needs of the industrial revolution two centuries ago. While we’re teaching our kids to memorize, more progressive systems are teaching them how to research.
A final point… When I was a high-school student, the use of a slide-rule during an exam was permitted (and I was the only student who took advantage of that), but the use of a pocket calculator (which had been available for over a decade) was not. Last time I checked (admittedly a while back) it was permissible to bring a calculator into an exam, but not a computer/smartphone. Denying a student the use of a ubiquitous tool is absurd. That this is most likely a response to “but not everyone can afford that tool, so we can’t permit its use” is a clear indication that something is horribly inequitable in our society.
The 4th Grade teacher said to me, “I’m sold on what you’re doing with the computers! The kids come back excited and with confidence they never had before.”
It was 1985, and I was the Apple Aide in a room with six Apple IIes at a rural school, and the students in question were her half dozen “slow math” kids.
I was a whiz as a teacher – Not! I didn’t know what the hell I was doing, and how I passed the interview process in the first place is still a wonder to me.
So what was my secret? I bribed them: “Get 10 out of 10 on the exercise and you can play games for 10 minutes.”
Motivation led to success led to confidence in their formerly worst subject. But the motivation had to come first.
Computers were new and way cool back then, so that helped, but I believe mixing in fun with the drudgery was the most important factor. Some of the kids built up to a 10:1 ratio of fun! But who cares? They also learned at the same time.
I’ve always hoped some or most of them kept their math momentum into later years.
After reading this, for some reason I remembered your Transformation Age documentary from 2008. I just watched my recording of it for the first time since it originally aired.
The model in your blog header photo is featured (Anina?). Completely forgot/overlooked that segment, or didn’t make the connection after you switched to WordPress.
You profiled Eastman Kodak and interviewed the inventor of the digital camera … and noted how far Kodak the company had fallen at that point. Last week they filed for bankruptcy.
The general theme was transformation, of course, but there was also a healthy dose of preaching the merits of adaptation.
And that may be why this column prompted me to go back and review the documentary. Because is there any better example of institutional resistance to transformation (i.e., adaptation to technological innovation) than the American public school system?
Funny timing this. I am 55 and tonight my newly 5 year old learned to read. Not from his iPad, but from a book made from trees: “Dick and Jane Jump and Run”.
Don’t get me wrong, when he soon learns about how to Google, his iPad will be invaluable, but technology is just the new blackboard. Sometimes it can be a distraction, sometimes it is a great tool.
On the subject of learning Calculus and good teachers: there is short free course on iTunes U, given by Gilbert Strang of MIT. He uses a blackboard. He is so engaging and quirky that you can’t stop watching it. It is excellent and so simply explained that anyone that passed Algebra II in high school can learn the basics of Calculus from his lectures. Great stuff.
I have been in tech since Cringley was a youngster ( co-founded a cross-assembler company in 1980, yeah assembler, I know.) , but if you don’t understand the basics of Calculus the tech can’t help you. The tech CAN bring you lectures on a blackboard right to your iPhone from a great teacher though!
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In Indiana they have accepted charter schools. My son attends a hybrid high school. He has a laptop does his work 3 days a week at home and attends school 2 days a week. When at home he has online lessons, reading and writing requirements. He works at his pace and meets the deadlines.
The teachers also have online office hours where they can help students and they give lessons via Elluminate sessions. The only requirement is a learning coach (my wife) who handles the attendance on the days at home and makes sure the work is getting done. Sort of a home school meets traditional school. It does take additional responsibility of the parents.
First of all, “lubricity”?
Second, why can’t today’s school’s take a page from the old “one room school house” of yester-year and have the students with aptitude in a subject help those students who need it?
My family home-schools and the older kids help the younger in the subjects they’ve already learned / mastered. Prior to homeschooling our two oldest were enrolled in a private school and here again, the older students (fifth grade an up) who finished an assignment ahead of their class were then sent to the younger classes to assist the teacher.
It isn’t quite the one-to-one you describe in your post but it does keep the “smarter” kids from getting bored while helping the teacher with the “slower” kids.
While there have been a few comments about parents, it amazes me how few. I went to a pretty good public school system, so there were enough good teachers to make a difference. But, what drove my education was my parents. They insisted the work get done, made grades a big deal with real consequences, and did what it took for us to learn the material. We were expected to take the tough math and science classes and to do our best. I am told that the classes are now dumbed down a lot.
More subversively, there was a full bookshelf or two in almost every room in our house with a very wide range of books (not just kids or “acceptable” books) and we were taught to read well and taught reading was a normal leisure time activity. I was as likely to pick Shakespeare or an intro to quantum mechanics off a shelf when bored as a mystery or great American novel. Every room was a mini library. Trips to the library were ongoing and to the bookstore a special treat. Tablet computers full of books are a dream come true, one thing I am sorry my parents missed.
What I miss in most “educational” discussions is the extreme variations in parents and the skill with which they set their kids up to learn and thrive, or not, and whether we could influence that.
With that, Bruce, I’m afraid we’d be fighting against societal pressure.
There are way too many parents who don’t care about school or whether their kids do any well in school. Reading is looked on as a “wussy” or “girly” or “gay” pastime, while other activities such as sports are glorified. If you want to change the way the culture views reading and education, you have to break the power of the sports culture.
What I have noticed is that different people learn differently. Some folks have to have a published text book and have to take the time to read it, you can stand there and tell them something until you are blue in the face and it wont work, they have to read it from a book. Some folks cant learn from the book you have to stand there and show them. And some folks need a little prompting and a little guidance but room to find their way, periodically put up a wall or fence when the start to wander in the wrong direction they will find their way. This leads to the conclusion above, one teacher one student. Very expensive but you can then tailor to the learning of the student. I apparently went to poorly rated schools but did well anyway because I needed the space to wander and a little guidance and I took it from there. The kids that needed better teachers or books, didnt get that and probably lead to the bad statistics. The problem today that the statistics are the measuring stick for everything, funding, salaries, etc which only leads to teaching to the test, which teaches the kids nothing, they end up poorly educated. The highest rated schools statistically will produce the least educated children.
Student motivation is directly related to how good a teacher is. If they can’t engage the kids in a meaningful way, then they will tune out. The exciting question is whether someone will create incredible courseware using iBooks Author and/or through iTunes U. That’s where your great calculus teacher in a box will come from.
AWESOME 🙂 Great Comment and Suggestion. A Great Teacher who engages all his students is a Success to the Students as well as Themselves. BRAVO !!! 🙂
The other way to get to one teach per student approach (or very very close) is through mini schools (a la the Amish), and/or homeschooling (which is how I went through school).
Neither is a guarantee of success, and they may not work for everyone, but it’s most certainly an option.
You bring up many excellent points but leave out potentially the one that has the most influence on effective use of technology in the classroom: training. A teacher may have a great deal of personal experience with technology outside of the classroom, but that does not necessarily translate to using technology for educational purposes in the classroom – either to present content or to allow students to demonstrate their understanding. This can can take of both the valid issues your articles raises: teachers who are well-trained in the best uses of educational technology can be very effective in motivating students who have been traditionally hard to reach, and the technology that is purchased is actually used!
“…technology in schools can be, in many ways, more a distraction than a solution.”
I develop technology-based educational products in an area where it truly can become the solution — science, specifically chemistry. How is chemistry taught at the high school level today? Each teacher has cobbled together her own set of PowerPoint slides over the course of her career. To many in education, this is what it means to use technology in the classroom — students lulled to sleep by PowerPoint.
When I meet chemistry teachers, I suggest to them that, over the years, they have accumulated hard-earned images and movies that run in their heads as they teach. Understanding chemistry has its unique challenges — it requires the ability to visualize in 3D, yet its subject matter is too small to see it even with the most powerful optical microscope. So, teachers resort to waving their hands, showing static 2D pictures from the web and running cartoonish Flash animations.
I ask these teachers if they wouldn’t rather be able to show realistic, dynamic, 3D models of atoms and molecules to their students. Oh, and how about if they could interact with them — indeed perform “experiments” on them to “discover” atomic and molecular structure, periodic trends, or the gas laws themselves.
A light bulb goes on for every one of these teachers. Some can’t wait to get started. But many are intimidated by the thought of learning new technology or throwing away their cherished PowerPoints. Some seem afraid that their students will “get it” faster than they do — put it in front of students and they just run with it. I’ve even had one teacher write to us about how engaged and enthusiastic his students were as they worked with the software — then proceeded to ask how he could now embed these interactive simulations as passive animations in… you guessed it… his PowerPoint slides.
This technology, originally developed for use by drug and plastics designers, is changing the way students “see chemistry” (that’s an intentional double entendre). But getting teachers to think of technology in the classroom as more than PowerPoint, web browsing, and students blogging is a slow process.
And now we have e-Textbooks and emerging tools to produce them. iBooks Author even has the ability to embed 3D models its books. But these models are just static collections of polygons that can’t be interacted with except to zoom and spin them around. And they don’t know any chemistry or physics.
So we will continue to sell our curriculum as software — walking that fine line between an eBook and an App. I’m looking foward to Apple releasing a framework that will us to embed Cocoa into iBooks. I recently told the chemistry editor at one of the big publishers that we are still a few years away from really interesting eBooks in chemistry. I have the code ready to go.
So this was a lot of words about something that I claim is 3D, dynamic, visual, and interactive. If you want a little taste of what I’m talking about, take a look at the screencasts on the following page about our popular Mac App, The Atomic Dashboard:
https://www.bitwixt.com/jsite/atomicdashboard
Then think about students interacting with these as jump out of the pages of their books. Harry Potter, here we come.
also, check out reality. it is amazing how thing in the foreground appear closer than anything in the background.
Take a look at the url (from the New Yorker) below where a surgeon describes the benefit of a coach. In the middle of the article he cites work done with school teachers and their coaches. It plainly shows that the concern the coaches have is about engagement (motivation to learn) of all the students in the classroom. Given the age distribution of our population, how about asking the really good, soon to retire teachers to coach the younger teachers? Small investment with multiplier potential.
https://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/03/111003fa_fact_gawande
JD
Speaking as a former public school teacher, the problem for younger teachers is rarely lack of coaching.
There are usually “mentors” in the department, school, and school system, and willing retired teachers in the community. The young teacher is overwhelmed and can rarely get to them.
The extra requirements include:
-documenting pedagogy & “standards” in lesson plans
-daily & periodic documenting for each student in each class with a classified “impairment”
-documenting accommodations for students with short or extended absences
-documenting each contact with parents, especially in low performance cases. With 150 students (total) in 5 classes, this logging alone can take hours a week.
-much more
The added demands have the veneer of reasonability, but require more hours than there are in a day. There is already a lot of start-up time for a new teacher, preparing materials and classes that veterans have on hand.
Coaching can’t readily reduce these burdens. The recent bureaucratic demands bog down even experienced teachers, even the flourishing ones. They result is many good teachers burnt out of the system.
An iPad is nothing more than a tool. It replaces the books and a slate with chalk. The problem with our students in the USA is not the technology but discipline (motivation) and more importantly the teachers and the teaching content.
The schools are full of union teachers who don’t teach and cannot be fired. We are spending astronomical amounts on education but the money never reaches the students. Throwing more money at the problem without accountability will never solve the problem. The money is wasted and stolen.
Students have been taught reading, writing, and arithmetic for hundreds of years in the USA long before calculators, slide rules, computers, and iPads. We are failing to teach the most basic of skills.
The problem started in the 1970’s with so called “progressive” teaching methods. Instead of rote repetition which has worked for hundreds of years. Silly unproven methods were implemented. Discipline dropped dramatically at the same time. You want motivated kids? Force them to pay attention. There was no such thing as ADD / ADHD. How is it a student can just talk and ignore the teacher or worse take a nap? You take a nap at the workplace and you’ll find yourself in the unemployment line very quickly! Students are arriving at major universities completely unprepared for the rigors of a true education. They can’t understand why they cannot succeed when they have to do real work and they don’t get the pat on the back and easy A.
Pratt & Whitney would hire machinists off the street and put them through an aggressive apprenticeship program. i.e. School. They had to teach them basic math, how to read a ruler, algebra, geometry, and trigonometry. This program no longer exists because those jobs were outsourced overseas to China where the workers already have these skills. Apple cannot manufacture their products in the USA because we don’t have the workforce in place in large enough numbers. Of course, much of the hand assembly could be automated with robots, but who will engineer and fix those robots? Not enough workers with strong enough basic engineering skills.
Time to throw the baby out with the bath water and start over from scratch. Return to the old concepts and teach by rote. It works every time. Increase discipline. Not talking about corporal punishment, but just kick the kid out of class with a suspension if the child cannot adapt to the classroom. Hold the parents accountable. This is why private education works. The student adapts to the school not the other way around.
Thanks for that. I’m sure many of us were thinking the same things, but you expressed it so well. Yes, we need a return to common sense. Discipline, tests that provide motivation, parent involvement, recognition and rewards for good teachers.
“One teacher per student” works. That’s how I learned computer programming.
As a student at the Control Data Institute in 1978 I used the PLATO system of self-paced multimedia training. The theory is that when you got stuck you went and stood in a line at the teacher’s desk and waited your turn for one-on-one help. In practice there was hardly ever a line so I got help instantly whenever I needed it.
I especially appreciated burning through Fortran IV programming as fast as I could read the test questions. This module only took me about a week versus just about everyone else who needed two months. Admittedly I had found a Fortran book in the school library when I first got into high school and read it like others would read a novel. Apparently 6 years later I’d retained enough of the material to ace the tests with very little actual studying required. Curiosity and motivation is the best teacher.
IBM 360 Assembly Language clicked for me too. Prior to college I’d done HAPAS Assembly just as a fun mental exercise. I did the entire module, again, in only a couple of weeks, compared with the two months other students needed. I know that the learning stuck because I became the “go to guy” for the other students who for some reason didn’t grok assembly language. Also, my first job was as a CADOL programmer (a hybrid of Basic and Assembler) where I did very well.
I’ll celebrate the day someone takes the PLATO philosophy out of moth balls and makes it available to high school students. In high school, for excitement, my best friend and I would compete to see who could get the closest to the minimum passing grade. Kind of student Russian roulette… my confidence in my answers had to so complete that one mistake and I’d fail. It was really a game of chicken… answer too many extra questions as a safety net and I’d get a higher score than my friend and lose the competition.
High school was a complete waste of four years of my life. Even if PLATO is only suitable for motivated learners there are lots of students who could breeze through high school in a fraction of the time that it currently takes.
Now this would be a real economic stimulus package!
Have you watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U ?
Second, it’s not going to make any difference when computer-literate/savvy people are running the schools. They will still be Teaching rather than Facilitating Learning. They will still be boring their students to death. There’s no sign that that is going to change in 10 years. Somewhere it might, but definitely not in the USA.
This is because so much has to change, and it’s way more change than can actually occur because parents, teachers and school administrators still think our school system needs minor changing rather 97% change. Can you imagine schools eliminating “classes by exact age”? Eliminating Grading and replacing it with Level of Understanding? Making school relevant to the future rather it currently is, to the past? I can’t.
“The current system is unfair to both kids.”
I figured out a method on how to deal with that problem.
I taught freshmen english at a Korean University. English is a core test subject, if you test good on English, math and science, you’ll go to a good University. Ours was second rung, maybe even third. So, a few of my students were fluent, the rest were so so, and then there were some that didn’t know enough to understand me – so they were prone to checking out.
Obviously I have to teach to the bulk of the students. What to do with the rest?
Well, on the first day of class, before I even introduce my name, I give them a quiz. Since most teachers write their name on the board, hand out a syllabus and then leave, this produces a big groan from the class. I then grade the quiz and rank the students. I organize the class in teams of 2, 4 and 8, depending upon the project or the work. I then fold the quiz rankings in two and pair the good students with the bad students to create a mentoring system.
I talk to the good students. I tell them, that I expect them to get A’s because they already know the subject. But if their partner doesn’t pass, then they will get A- minus. If their student passes, they’ll get As, if their student gets a C+ they’ll get an A and if their studend gets a B- or above, they will get the highest score possible (since we posted grades using a numerical system – this can have a huge effect in overcoming a bad performance else where.
Now the Smart student is engaged and by them, the poor student is engaged. The smart student learns by teaching/tutoring, and the poor student learns because the smart student is making sure he isn’t missing anything. The smart student also develops good compassionate leadership skills and social confidence. Later on, out side the class room this gives him HUGE social proof with the girls and causes him to get laid. (I never got around to explaining this to them, but in the future I might).
To motivate them, I had them they work in teams in competition … it helps to motivate students – they don’t want to lose.
The other thing I did is throw as much novelty at them as I could.
Every class I had saw the Seinfeld episode of the Soup Nazi two times, the second time with a script, and then had to act it out from the script. (Note that the fair use exception to copy right allows the use of copy righted material for educational purposes). Because that episode is situational, you can laugh even if you don’t know the language…but then the more you know, the funnier it gets.
Instead of just teaching them hi, my name is Bo, what’s yours? I showed them the scene from Dead Poet’s society: the point of language is to whoo women etc.. I then gave them a script of James Bond trying pick up Angelina Jolie in a spy vs spy scenario at a coffee house. Then I told them they had to change it… make it better, make if funnier. One team of 8 had James Bond calling Angelina Jolie”s office to set up a date, only to have James flirt with the receptionist over the phone… he then makes a date with the receptionist instead,who accepts, but then the receptionist reveals that she’s not a she, but just a man with a high voice, but looking forward to the date nonetheless. Funny stuff.
I don’t think you can use those gimmicks in math. But novelty can be fit in there somewhere. Technology can’t be used to teach. There is no substitute for a teacher. I think mentoring is especially the way to go when you have very advanced students… they can help bring up the rear … the best way to learn a subject is to teach a subject.
Seems to me that technology can facilitate learning, but it can’t substitute for teaching.
Students can have a variety of reasons for not being motivated in a particular subject. The teacher can figure that out and find a way to compensate. My favorite subjects are history and geography. I hated English until I saw the documentary “The Story of English” which took the subject and framed it in my favorite context. Might a Geometry teacher do the same thing? The ancient Greeks used geometry at the battle of Syracuse. Now its not a foreign language… that sort of thing.
And of course, there is parenting.
“The only solution I can see is one teacher per student.”
There’s another word for that; homeschooling.
Then technology and following the interests and passions of the student are only limited by the resources of the family.
I agree 100% Joanne. The key is not technology, it is parenting. And if you can not home school, at least empower parents through school choice, vouchers, etc. The system of public schooling is obsolete and should be scrapped.
As we all know from our own school experiences, home schooling cannot replicate, for better or worse, the deep social development that school forces upon us.
Robert, we’ve iPads in our school now. The kids are filming movies, playing multimedia learning games while traditional reading has plummeted. Is this is good or bad? I’ve no idea, but it does remind there was at the time TVs where supposed to herald a revolution in learning. They certainly can be a useful tool, but more often are not.
“The current system is unfair to both kids.”
When I was growing up, these two kids would have been in different classes.
The student who blasted through the problems would have been placed in an advanced class where the lessons moved more quickly and the problem sets were more challenging. The student who struggled would have been placed in a remedial class where they would have received more individual attention and lessons targeted at their current level of understanding.
In the interest of not bruising the delicate self-esteem of the children in the remedial classes, there has been a huge push for “inclusion” in our area. “Inclusion” basically means the end of leveled classes – there are no more advanced classes or remedial classes. Every kid, regardless of intelligence of motivation, is jammed into the same classroom. Teachers are expected to “scaffold” the material for the lower students, essentially teaching a base lesson with an individualized add-on package for every single student in the classroom who falls below the base lesson.
Due to the ridiculous pace at which teachers have to present material to make sure that their students pass the yearly standardized tests, this is basically an impossible task. As a result, teachers are stuck aiming their lessons somewhere around the middle of the normal curve to try to hit the classroom’s broadest intellectual target. This is obviously to the detriment of the students on both the left AND the right of intellectual curve.
Hopefully they’ll wake up eventually and flush this idea down the same tube where all the other failed educational experiments go (classes without walls, exclusive whole-word language, etc.). But by then, plenty of kids will get a substandard education because of this experiment and no one will ultimately be held accountable.
Education is surely changing and scaling with the Internet…and probably you won’t need extra equipment.
The AI class at Stanford could be just the start: it has been a ‘shocking’ experience for Prof Thrun if he has decided to pursue different models for teaching.
Read more here: https://www.i-programmer.info/news/150-training-a-education/3658-sebastian-thrun-resigns-from-stanford-to-launch-udacity.html
Ok, this is not for kids at primary school but…
How about the educational experience of Team Cringely and your planned Moon rover (maybe with a bowling trophy)? It’s getting close to the end of the month, and I recall you promised some news about this.
“Always leave them wanting more …” Yes, yes, I know you are VERY good at this. I won’t whine or complain (much).
Schools need to be reorganized so children can learn at their own pace. That could be accomplished if each student was accessing instruction online, such as K12, through a computer. The bright ones could move ahead on their own while the less bright get help from the teacher. This would allow students to graduate when they have completed their education, rather than graduating on a fixed timetable. Some would graduate from high school when they are 16 and some when they are 20. The priority should not be when they graduate, but rather that they do. The school system as it is now leaves the bright ones bored out of their minds and the less bright ending up as dropouts.
https://www.k12.com
https://www.kueducation.com
https://www.eschoolnews.com
Adaptive learning. And at least 2/3 of the students in a college class have smartphones (I did a survey). No need to buy everyone an ipad. Hmmm….
When I was young, and by young I mean 39, I couldn’t grasp that people just didn’t think the way I do. For me – when I want to learn something, I research everything I can about the subject in books. In fact, I’m fat, dumb, and happy when I have an excellent book on the subject, and a computer at hand to try things out for myself just to see how it really works.
One day it clicked for me. It was the day my wife decided to take a C++ programming course. Now, I’ve been trying to get her interested in geeky things – including programming for years – and I gave her reading lists and some of the best books on the subject – things I wish someone had done for me back when I was just getting started. As much as she tried – she just never got it…especially, it seems when I would try to explain it to her. For her the ideal learning experience is in a formal classroom setting with a teacher she can ask questions, and a solid curriculum with homework and all the rest – the works.
I knew something significant was going on when she started talking to me with excitement about her first project – the archetypical hello world program. When she came home with an ‘A’ in the subject – I knew there was a qualitative difference between the different modes of learning – and those modes are different and unique for every person.
After sulking for several years, I have now come to accept that reality – and by doing so it has helped me communicate with and help others find their best way in spite of my own limitations.
So the upshot of my torturous journey is to tailor education for the students – and today we have more than enough CPU cycles to go around to make that happen.
https://plus.google.com/112333944070832643201/posts/2NATXJE3FRj
The teacher can explain the bad grades with “ADHD”.
Salman Khan, of Khan academy, has most probably cracked this problem, about as well as it is going to be cracked.
“….when Cole finishes his math problems in a quarter the time it takes anyone else in the class, his teacher has him insert a wait state by putting his head down on his desk. Conversely, when some other kid never quite gets the problem set finished, ever, well he/she never gets a rest and never masters the material, either.”
A visitor to my class, sent me the link to your blog. The problem you describe above is central to the education misery of children’s lives worldwide. The other misery is that children are evolutionarily blessed with an inclination towards playfulness and experimentation. We deny them their naturalness in schools.
I use games to achieve to take an aim at both of the problems. Children payback by learning in school, going online to my site after school (no homework!), and deliver double digit academic growth. This is now going on for three years and has been done without giving everybody a laptop. Checkout the video on my site.
Perhaps the “wait state” is actually when his mind takes what we think is a breather although is actually reinforcing what has been learned? He may be benefiting after all, while other kids do not get this moment to form deeper connections with the material. Often a gotcha moment occurs with the mind wandering than with the puzzle at hand.
One other perspective on this. I lead incoming parent tours at my son’s school. Often parents ask about accelerated instruction, but having two older boys I know understand while their son may be brilliant at something, they might not be so hot with another subject, such as composition or Espanol. I’ve also seen children enter in K having finished the Potter series but a couple of grades later, being passed by late readers.
Screw the Teachers Unions!
FYI: If you need a union to represent you then you are NOT skilled labor.
Some months ago, the Times reported that test scores lagged in school districts that invested massively in digital education. [3]
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/technology/technology-in-schools-faces-questions-on-value.html?_r=3&hp=&pagewanted=all
https://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NA31Dj01.html
It’s not the unions, it’s the teaching method. The “best” private schools, without unions, are just the same. The problem is the “teacher center” traditional approach, where everything in the classroom is focused on the teacher, and students are discouraged from doing anything that detracts from that. All learning has to go through the teacher. If a student finishes teacher assigned work, he has nothing to do.
Private schools have better results because parents expect more, and because the general level of ability of the students is better.
The Montessori method is not “teacher centered” and encourages students to work at their own pace. Teacher centered lessons are only a part of the curriculum, and students work on their own (or in small groups) much of the time and work through the materials at their own pace. A student who finished work ahead of others would not be left to kill time waiting for others.
But Montessori training is very different from traditional teacher training. Teachers who are already working in traditional schools can’t just be handed different materials and told to use the Montessori method (or any other method).
a wise teacher would have Cole help the other student rather than just wait there for everyone to catch up. Children like Cole can communicate better/easier with another child than any teacher can. If it’s collaborative, all benefit, even the teacher…but then that removes the teacher from an authoritarian position…which threatens the system. It’s sad…
With all due respect, I’ve attended a large allegedly good research university UC Berkeley, and I’ve attended junior colleges. While Stanford may well have had more motivated students, on average, the quality of instruction that I received at the junior colleges far surpassed that which I received at Berkeley.
When I hear “large research university” I think of shitty teachers; and when I hear “junior college” I think of dedicated teachers. This ties in with your primary point in that teachers who actually care about their students focus on inspiring them–something that I found totally lacking at Berkeley.
For you Cal fans who are offended by my comments, get over it. There are great colleges for undergraduate education in the US: I doubt that any of them are research universities.
Cheers,
Alan Tomlinson
Absolutely correct. I’m lucky I could not afford to go to any college other than the state subsidised one. The teachers were there to teach. After graduating I went to MIT for my masters where it seemed the teachers and students were there to serve the school.
I think the comment by Tim K above should be contemplated. My variation of that is that our society operates on a “competitive paradigm” instead of a “cooperative paradigm.” Watch television, you see competition. But what would happen if we operated by the idea the no one wins unless everyone wins? I couldn’t tell you how to actually accomplish that until I read Tim K’s comments above.
If we are not yet able to have one teacher per student, how about a variation where the students teach each other? They cooperate in some way and keep at it until everyone understands what is being taught. Again, if you asked me yesterday how to actually do that, I would not have had an answer, but now we have one example (above) of how to try to do that.
We should at least consider the possibility that some fundamental belief in our minds, something so basic that we can’t even see it as a fundamental belief, but see it just as the way things are, always were, and always shall be, might be wrong. That’s what I was thinking with the “competitive paradigm” and “cooperative paradigm” ideas. Maybe we need some completely new way of looking at things.
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“The only solution I can see is one teacher per student.” Yes but how to solve this if everywhere education is more and more expensive for parents and more and more complicated for teachers (too many students, violence, low salaries)? Without politicians’ willingness to change that all of this is very difficult …
A better idea: have the more capable kids in the subject assist the kids who aren’t getting it. Maybe even build it into the grading system. It sounds unfair (unpaid teacher’s assistants and kids bullying other kids) but I bet it will work. In fact I remember a Mensa report saying exactly that (yeah, but I dropped my membership a while back.) Cole will benefit also, in that anyone that is forced to explain something clearly to a less informed associate gains skills in communication and refines their knowledge of the subject.
Who loses? Those idiot parents and administrators who continue to push a competitive system in the schools, making learning a zero-sum game. Let the competition begin outside the schools; as it is, America is losing out in the education game enough already.
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