Okay, I’m back, still without cataract surgery but I have the fonts cranked-up on this notebook and my one working eye is still, well, working so I am, too. My next column will be about last week’s Internet DNS failure but right now I want to write about all these folks who have been asking to connect with me on Facebook, LinkedIn, and other social media. I’ll bet you have the same problems that I do.
Once you have enough connections (I have 2785 Facebook “friends” and 2552 “connections” on LinkedIn) you become a target for people trying to build their networks. In the beginning my philosophy about these things was to never ask anyone to be my friend or my connection but to always accept any friend or connection requests. I didn’t feel I was taking advantage of anyone yet my networks grew nicely, though I’d hardly met any of these people in real life.
Understand that in my line of work not meeting people isn’t unusual at all. People read my stuff for years and years and they come to think they know me over time. We become connected and that sometimes turns into weekly — even daily — correspondence. As such some of my closest friends in the world are folks I’ve met only a few times. Some of them I’ve never met at all. For 20 years, for example, I’ve had a pen-pal in June Dilevsky from Israel (her father invented the fax machine), yet we’ve never met. One summer June was driving down highway 101 through Santa Rosa and saw my RV parked beside the highway (remember it has my picture on the side) yet we still didn’t meet.
E-mail and social media, then, are a big deal to me for remaining reachable. I hardly hang out on Facebook, but I respect its power.
What I DON’T respect are new social networks, so stop inviting me to join them, okay? That ship has sailed. These two will be fine for me until I croak. A combined 5000 relationships are plenty.
And another thing I don’t respect are people trying to use me as social media climbers.
Say I get a friend or connection request and Facebook or LinkedIn tells me we have 282 connections in common: I generally accept the request. There are people on these services with whom I share 1000+ connections (you know who you are, Robert Scoble, my apparent doppelgänger) and that’s kind of creepy. Who is stalking whom? But if we have 50+ connections in common who am I to shoot down these people? So I say “yes.”
And sometimes the request comes from someone with whom I share no connections at all and frankly I tend to be attracted to those, too, because my work requires genetic diversity and fresh meat. Such new connections are often built of t-cells. But sometimes they are scammers, too.
If I think the proposed connection is a scam I try to do a little research. If they have any existing connections at all I look those up. Are the connections real friends and colleagues to this person or are they Donald Trumps?
What I’ve noticed is that would-be connections who appear to be attractive women seem to pick up half a dozen of the same male connections almost instantly, some of them with folks I’d normally consider heavy hitters in the technology world. Heavy-hitting horndogs more likely. What do they do when their new friend turns out to be selling sunglasses? Worse still, how do these titans of industry react when their 2500+ connections are sent the same 40-page startup business plan? I try not to accept such connections and — when I am inevitably burned — I unfriend and disconnect instantly.
It’s almost enough to turn me off social media entirely and that’s why there’s inevitably some bozo pushing a new social network claiming his is different. Well they aren’t different and it’s too late for me to start over.
So if you are one of the 60+ people at any time waiting to connect with me on Facebook or LinkedIn, I’m sorry I haven’t got back to you yet. I’m actually doing due diligence trying to figure out who (and what) the heck you actually are?
A question for readers: How do you handle this social media scourge?
I’ve stopped accepted all “friend” requests in Facebook and one remaining LinkedIn account. I’ve cancelled my LinkedIn account for my company but strangely still get “requests”.
It’s all a big waste of time.
Except for Facebook and LinkedIn since, of course, we are the “product”, not the “customer”.
I deleted my social media accounts — all of them.
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The fake “friend” requests became a nuisance. Every last one of them were social media climbers. My real friends know how to reach me via phone or email.
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I am convinced the sites are using apps to generate fake requests. They need to drum up business and maintain an interest level. Just a huge time waste to the rest of us.
Forgot to mention…. I google myself once a year, and hope not to find anything — it would all be a privacy leak, or attack point for some scammer. So far, so good.
i have had a number of Facebook friend requests that when i accepted actually became ‘requests’ to the other person.
So, yes, our good buddies at the friendly (and would never invade your privacy, oh no cause we are NICE people) online media spaces,
really are evil nasty brutish dollar driven pricks, yes mr zuckerberg I am talking about you, oh and gosh, maybe Google who do the same thing on a regular basis.
but they awon’t ever read anything that might dent their ego…would be nice to have a 10″ thick skin… they must be related to donald trump.
I mostly ignore them.
I haven’t any Facebook account, but a number of people tries from time to time to use my GMail or Yahoo Mail address to register there. I promptly delete everything as FB is not applying any email verification step.
I have a LinkedIn account (since it was on invitation only) and refuse any contact I don’t know.
I am a person, those are software.
FB friends are either nothing at best or just noseys at worst.
LinkedIn contacts can be opportunities .
That’s it.
less than 5% of any linked in connections are legitimate
Where did the 5% number come from?
It is not easy to be private today. The value is that I get to keep my time and most of my privacy. How many times have you heard that FB is a time-suck? Plus, there’s the relative absence of click-bait. That’s gotta be worth something.
Not a member of FB, I wonder how hard it is to drop out? LI did not make it easy, but once complete, my focus returned. Fewer link requests, fewer distractions, more work.
Then there’s the loyalty thing. The more I was in LI, the more I felt the grass-is-greener effect. Finally, there’s that security thing. I know at least one person in LI with at least 4 personas. How do you know that Robin Sage is really a headhunter?
Wait, there’s that hack thing. Maybe Microsoft will do better.
Even if you are not a member of Facebook, they likely have your personal info on file. As long as you are in someone’s contact lists, then they will produce a shadow profile of you.
Since you are back “working” when are you planning on updating your kickstarter page? That 21-day project is now over a year late.
I try to do what you do. I do a shallow research before I accept. But then I only have a few hundred connections on each of these media – you included.
It seems to me that public people have professionals running their social media on pseudo accounts, while they likely don’t even have one themselves, or a very private obscure one.
I generally only accept friend requests from people I don’t work with since a lot of my personal friends are Cosplay friends and their pictures are… um…. different? And I just try to keep my work life and personal life separate. I used LinkedIn for just work contacts and work friends.
I follow you on Twitter and Facebook. I’m interested in your insight on technology. Pretty much the reason why I read this blog. On Facebook you probably need a fan page instead of a personal page.
Never had/wanted a Facebook account. Had a LinkedIn account and then started getting connection requests from other users that were generated by LinkedIn… not the users. Nuked the account ASAP. Dirty bounders…. I am not employed in a position where social media is useful or beneficial. Personally, it’s all wasted time. For the music group I am in… different story.
I had to get a FB account to watch my kids since there are things you can’t see unless you’re inside the system. Since I push nothing out and only do a little light watching, the account doesn’t use my real name and links to my junk email account, so spam can be easily ignored. And while it’s nearly certain the kids have got accounts that I don’t know about on Instagram, Snapchat, FB, etc, at least I can see some of what they can see and keep their Potempkin village accounts on the up and up.
An on the up and up Potempkin village, sounds like an oxymoron: ” ‘Potemkin village’ has come to mean, especially in a political context, any hollow or false construct, physical or figurative, meant to hide an undesirable or potentially damaging situation.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
Exactly.
He means that the accounts he sees at least look good.
Facebook is personal. I don’t accept any facebook requests from people who aren’t either my real friends, or family.
Linkedin is for business contacts. I generally accept most requests, unless the profile looks really dodgy.
I don’t send many requests at all.
I generally accept LinkedIn requests unless they’re clearly recruiters or scams, been burnt a couple of times but it’s not too onerous to delete a few spam messages. Even recruiters I’ll accept if I have 20+ connections in common. I have about 1200 connections and mostly use it as an address book – I’m not connected to any of the ‘influencers’ despite LinkedIn constantly nagging.
Facebook I barely use and culled a lot of friends down to about 120 people I actually know now – which worked until they overwhelmed the platform with ads.
I use pretty much the same approach you do, check them out, look at their profile, meaning “what” are they, and who are their connections. Due to my high tech profile on LinkedIn, I get a lot of connection requests from head hunters. Those are a dilemma, I like my job and employer, I am not looking to move on so do not need a bunch of recruiting offers. On the other hand I might need those connections if everything goes sour. I generally accept connection requests from people who are connected directly to people I already know. On Facebook I only accept requests from people I know in meat space, not even friends of friends unless they are someone I have exchanged ideas with on a friends timeline.
I have a page in Facebook, and I’m smart enough to keep it EMPTY. All the people in my network in LinkedIn is people I actually met and worked with more than a couple months, except you. BTW let me know when you come to Buenos Aires and I’ll invite you to lunch !!!
I prefer to only accept friend requests on Facebook if I actually know somebody and have met them in person. The same goes with LinkedIn. I’ll immediately drop any requests from obviously fake accounts but those are starting to get harder to identify.
What I think I want is an AI to act as an intermediary that updates me on the people I care about the most (family and close friends) and then surfaces other people, content, and events based upon my interests, activities, location, etc.
I guess it is easy to think you know someone when you’re invited in to a family bonding moment while they make cookies for the holidays (that was a charming moment & I thank you for sharing. I envy that kind of family closeness).
It doesn’t make us neighbors or drinking buddies. But if I recognized you out & about, I would want to shake your hand and acknowledge our relationship, albeit mostly 1-way.
Hope your surgery comes around soon. Thanks for everything, buddy!
I read this blog. I have no need to ‘connect’ with you via some other media. Same goes for most ‘friend’ requests I get. You meet someone at a venue, have ‘one thing’ in common so they friend you of facebook. Then proceed to tell you all about their religious and political beliefs (like I give a f**k). Delete button still works!
I reverse image search the picture from the invite and if they are from a stock photo site or a photographer’s shoot of a model. I then message every connected person of mine that are also connected to that account letting them know they have been phished.
I have only “friended” two people on Facebook I have never met in person. Both were already pen-pals from my personal web site. I must know you before I friend you. I only friend people I actually want to be friends with in real life. If I would not want to go to dinner with you or meet for a drink, then you don’t get in. Sorry.
On LinkedIn I have very, very few connections that I have not at least dealt with before making the connection. Past co-workers I worked on a project with, even non-coworkers as long as we had interaction before finding each other on LinkedIn is enough. I have let myself accept a few (4 or 5) connections from placement agencies my company has worked with over the years. This is as far out there as I want to go. All other requests go bye-bye.
It’s as if “friend” means the same thing online as in real life. Interesting…
I have no Facebook account – no time to sink in, from what I understand of their purpose. For LinkedIn, I will accept a connection if I know the person. If I get a random connection request, I will most likely accept if the request is anything other than the stock request, like telling me what value you see in a connection. Otherwise, I do a quick profile review to see if there is any commonality between the work we do and decide based on that.
Simple: people I know in real life, in whom I have an interest to communicate about and to, I accept as connection. And some few particular of them I even actively tried to connect to.
This m.o. results in a quite hard, cohesive network slowly evolving, always interesting.
The problem I have with FB is that most people in this country use it every day and are not technical, having little idea what even a browser is, let alone what DNS stands for. So they typically post stuff on FB and expect me to have received it ( otherwise it is my problem ). Bit like being sent a text document in the latest version of Word. It is as if FB is the entire internet for most people and web pages ( or even email ) are outside their consciousness and thus irrelevant. Leaving me with the delima of having to join FB and waste my time with all that “friends” nonsense etc, or smiling politely, happy to be mindfully missing out on stuff.
A friend recently sent a mp3 of an old cassette we made as kids (1972). We were “radio DJs”, creating song scenarios AKA Ray Stevens, and we had given my DJ character the name of Mr. KoogleFace ; the MOST OUTLANDISH name we could think of.
Back then, “being friended” was acknowledged by a shared interest in Tonka trucks.
So, yeah, my network has flatlined.
My criteria for accepting connections is simple.
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On Facebook I only accept Friend-Requests from people I actually know. I think Facebook works best when you limit it to friends and family.
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On LinkedIn I accept connections of people who I’ve met, or have been referred to me by others. I consider LinkedIn a great tool to help each other with business and career issues. I prefer connections of people who I know will help others. I use LinkedIn to “pay it forward.”
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I periodically review my social networking connections and remove the ones not needed. I like quality connections of people willing to help others.
due diligence on people’s social graph sounds like a biz op. crack on starup monkeys!
I only friend, (and never eat,) people I’ve been introduced to
If it’s LinkedIn I look to see how we’re connected. My biggest source of LI requests are recruiters, most of which I decline but if their firm works in the area I specialize in (UX, design, management) or if I’ve worked with another recruiter from that firm before I’ll accept.
Facebook I mostly ignore unless it’s an actual blood relative (almost never), someone I’ve fallen out of touch with and wish that were not true (rarely), or someone whom I see regularly in social circles and want to keep up with their personal news (sometimes).
In neither case do i accept or make connections with complete strangers, even if they’re friends-of-friends.
On Twitter I will follow people I don’t know; when I do so it’s usually because I’ve seen them speak, heard their music/performance, or read something they wrote. After I follow them I send them a PM saying what thing of theirs I liked. I will also Twitter-follow people whom I’m on panels with at conferences and so on.
This does explain why you can’t seem to figure out to fulfill your promises on the social funding site…Kickstarter.
One way to sort out the phony profiles on LinkedIn is to use the “Search Google for Image” function of a Chrome browser. When you are looking at their profile, right click on their profile picture and search for the image. If five or six LinkedIn profiles with different names and the same profile picture come up, it is either a bunch of fake profiles or you have accidentally stumbled into an episode of “Orphan Black.” The other major tip-off is that they all “work” high level jobs at a prestigious technology or finance company without the progression of experience in their work history that would justify their position.
I have no FB account, 1. Because my life is too boring to be of any possible interest to anyone and 2. I don’t have the time to waste on it anyway. No LinkedIn or Twitter or WhatsApp accounts either. I don’t even have a smartphone. I guess that in this connected age, I almost don’t exist!
+1 PeterR
+2, PeterR!
I accept LinkedIn requests when they are either related to my work (even if I don’t think I know the person because you “never know”) or when – in the case of the one you sent to me, the person is interesting. Otherwise my social media footprint is limited to Google+ which mostly I use to keep my mother up-to-date, Google+ is great for that because it’s so unpopular.
Hey Bob, I’ll keep an eye out for you !
I have to know you before I accept your friend request and I’m sticking just to facebook/linked In for now.
Otherwise they can find me on twitter (which isn’t as private as my other social media accounts).
“Are the connections real friends and colleagues to this person or are they Donald Trumps?”
Cringe…..Given that Hillary is the one known for being a serial liar, cozying up to fake corporate friends (especially on Wall Street) when she wants their money and influence for her own benefit, and misusing email and other cyber communications, let me correct your statement to what I think you MEANT it to be:
“Are the connections real friends and colleagues to this person or are they Hillary Clintons?”
I’m certainly no fan of either candidate, but am just looking for a little truth and integrity and balance in communications…. something that everyone (on either side) has to admit has been sadly missing from the mainstream media.
I’ve always trusted Cringely’s words and am hoping he doesn’t stray from the truth wagon because almost no one left in the communications world (whether traditional media or cyber) seems to give a crap about accuracy or integrity when it comes to our current election.
I don’t think he meant anything negative by that, just that they were important people to whom the person was not connected. Trump is the one known for social media(Twitter).
LOL
“Given that Hillary is the one known for being a serial liar,…”
I don’t have any intention of turning this into a FB “thread of hate” but dude, your boy can’t talk for 5 minutes without lying 15 times. I think Bob’s statement stands on it’s own merit
I agree with Bob’s comment about they might be Donald Trumps.
on the one hand it seems clear that Hillary lied to Congress if we believe what Colmey told Congress.
But I understand why she did that; it’s not right but I understand it.
Donald Trump on the other hand lied under oath repeatedly with such a ridiculously false statements is that his interrogators we’re just amazed.
And if you read the transcript of the court proceedings you would be amazed to see how much out of reality this guy really resides in
Re: “Donald Trump on the other hand lied under oath repeatedly with such a ridiculously false statements that his interrogators we’re just amazed.” If that were true, he’d be prosecuted for perjury instead of running the country.
First time I post here although reading Bob’s blog regularly.
I felt in love with Facebook a couple of month at the early beginning of its italian history. Once I understood it was only a waste of time and an open window for “voyeur” and gossip I’ve canceled all the pictures, especially those of my kids. I haven’t closed (yet) the account but since I’m opening FB less than once per quarter I’ll probably do it sooner or later. For what is concerning Twitter I opened an account and canceled it after a couple of weeks. I really can’t understand (and stand) it…I’m not thinking at myself as a “follower” of anybody.
I like a lot more LinkedIn where usually I accept invite from recruiters from companies with good reputation while I decline invites from “too good looking women recruiters|managers|executives|vps|CEOs,|CIOs etc etc” (I’ll have no chance with them, they are evidently too skilled…) or people which profile/job roles is not convincing or for sure I never made business with them.
I then ignore any other social media and I’ll try to have my kids of 7 and 11 out of them the longest possible.
I use Facebook for Friends & Family. LinkedIn is for business & professional – I only accept links from people in my industry or similar branch professions (aerospace). Twitter is for a mix of all that (although I haven’t perceived that it really helps). I had a funny LinkedIn moment this week. A postdoc contacted me with his resume. I’m not hiring, but I forwarded it to a friend and he replied back with “I got contacted by the same guy.” That guy gets an A for effort.
PLEASE USE BLOCK CAPITALS IN REPLIES TO HELP BOB READ THEM! 🙂
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MY BIGGEST WORRY ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE LIKES OF WHATSAPP IS HOW MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF YOU’RE GIVING. AND HOW THEY’RE SHARING AND CONNECTING THAT INFORMATION TO PROFILE YOU.
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AN EXAMPLE: I HAVE A BOGUS ACCOUNT WITH LINKED IN AS I DON’T WISH TO BE IN THEIR SITE BUT TO STILL SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE BOASTING ABOUT. YET IT’S ABLE TO LINK THAT BOGUS ACCOUNT WITH OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW BUT HAVEN’T SEARCHED FOR, AND SHOULDN’T HAVE ANY LINKS WITH. THAT IS SCARY!
Re: BLOCK CAPITALS, it looks like you’re shouting. Bob’s not deaf. 🙂
THOSE WHO LAUGH LAST DIDN’T GET THE JOKE.
Easy for me. I only do invitations or accept invites if I have known the person at the other end IRL. I get lots of invitations from complete strangers (often headhunters) and just ignore them.
It must be far worse being a somewhat public figure – I’m guessing that a lot more folks try to “friend” Bob in the hope of gaining status-by-proxy. I know that would be really annoying and I’d be pressing my DELETE key far more often than I presently need to.
FYI – Linked-In is a really evil operation, scanning e-mail headers that pass through any system it’s connected to in order to determine who you might know. I’m certain of this because of two occurrences. The first was Linked-In trying to connect me to a member of my WoW guild that I’d had a single e-mail exchange with, and who I have absolutely no common factors with other than being members of the same guild. The second was with someone I’d had a single e-mail communication with through an online dating site. That’s beyond creepy.
Linked-In seems to be scanning e-communication at a level comparable to the FBI/NSA without any regulation or oversight. Do private corps in the USA get a pass when violating privacy regulations because making them accountable would be “anti-competitive”?
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-linkedins-people-we-may-know-feature-is-so-accurate/
You’re left with a country with poor expensive healthcare, 1984 like censorship on social media and, importing of guest labour from third world countries to replace American white collar workers, sad state of affairs, a George Orwel country indeed, as the wiki leaks reveal
In the 1980’s computers gave power to the users, social media gives it back to the corporations, for the most part, with few exceptions like accidental Clinton emails and wiki leaks, showing how currupt the system is
Pay to play importing slave labour to replace American workers, and suppress social media and promote corporate politicians and bad healthcare
Why is cataract surgery an issue in a developed country ? It can be done in Africa for a few dollars
I don’t know what I’m missing… and like it that way!
Lol that about sums up the attitude of most Americans, is it any wonder social media has no freedom of speech, and there are no workers rights or healthcare rights, America has turned into a real doozy, just read wiki leaks if you’re still allowed to, government workers aren’t, might as well be the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks
Americans have been rained not to protest or have critical thinking, look at the results
It’s the country with least protection to people and the most protection for corporations, good move
Those cataract anti inflamatoy eye drops going to cost him 300 maybe 200 a month even with insurance, they’d cost nothing anywhere else
What about asking potential contacts to write an essay researching a topic of your choosing? Whatever topic you are currently thinking about.
Wow Bob!
With all these contacts you could give birth to a couple of new social networks: that of haters of social networks and that of haters’ haters.
Extra levels would be useless!
Looking forward for the registration pages: I am both! 😉
I read the first paragraph too quickly and expected this to be about the DNS DDoS attack. You know, meaningful content. But I get your dilemma. I’ve been at this a while too. I consider it a dilemma because so much social networking is inherently self promotion; so not all these scammers are necessarily bad people. I’ve stopped requesting new friends and connections, but still accept them. That’s a start. I’ll even allow most comments on my blog , even if it’s pure self promotion, unless it contains too many typos.
I only have linkedin and not facebook. I could only stomach one social network. On linkedin I only accept requests from people I’ve actually met. It doesn’t have to be a close relationship. But if I’ve talked to you for a couple of minutes at a conference, I accept (your invite may have to remind me of that).
But on rare occasions I make an exception. I accepted a linkedin invite from a Robert Cringely who I’ve been reading for a couple of decades. We’ve never met. I’ve often wondered if that invite came from linkedin (robo-generated) or was real. Mr. Cringely doesn’t know me from Adam, which makes me suspect it was robo-generated.
I actually pruned my Facebook WAY BACK from over 1000 people to less than 100 a few months ago. I was spending 1-2 hours a day trying to see what all my “friends” were doing. Friends meaning all the High School alumni from the 3 different High Schools I attended. At least I went to just one University. There are friends whom I STILL want to delete for their annoying political posts, but maybe a “If this post has the phrase “Donald Trump” or “Hillary Clinton” then do not show it to me.
My kids looked at who I was friends with and decided too many of them were women, even accusing me of secretly wanting to hook up with old High School flames. It has happened to come of my “alumni” from one of the High Schools. I obliged and now I just have “real friends” on Facebook. If I haven’t met you in person, you are not on my Facebook at all.
I have C-Suite friends who are deleting their Linked In accounts. It was cool when it was new, but now they are annoyed with all the friend requests flowing in, which turn out to be sales pitches. They want a “filter” as well, only C-Suite executives with a VP or CxO title, no outsiders. Those in middle management are just stuck, I think. You have to have “Friends” to get access.
I have close to 1800 “contacts” on Facebook, with a goal of reaching 2000 early next year. If I have worked with you in the past, or you are a “friend of a friend” with credentials then I’ll let you in. And I will delete you very quickly if you try to sell me stuff.
You said “I actually pruned my Facebook WAY BACK from over 1000 people to less than 100 a few months ago…I have close to 1800 “contacts” on Facebook, with a goal of reaching 2000 early next year.” Sounds contradictory.
I meant LinkedIn, sorry. Facebook is stil small.
for my real Facebook account I get requests frequently and a normaly ignore most of them because I think most of them are a scam.
For LinkedIn I accept more but I’m tired of LinkedIn asking for a paid subscription.
The reason I use the phrase real Facebook Account is because when I started posting anti-Trump political comments I wanted to hide my identity.
I didn’t want to get a knock on the door from one of his brown shirts.
But it seems Facebook must be a Trump fan because I’ve had three or four different accounts now disabled.
interestingly if I posted a negative comment on a negative Trump website everything was OK but if I dared to paste a rather post a comment on a pro Trump website or even a neutral website the Facebook police send me a notice that they want my phone number and sometimes a picture ID lately however they just disable my account
I believe Facebooks policy is real names only.
agree with you.