Fifteen years after 9-11 it’s interesting to reflect on how much our lives have — and haven’t — changed as a result of that attack. One very obvious change for all of us since 9-11 is how much more connected we are to the world and to each other than we were back then. Politico has a great post quoting many of the people flying on Air Force One that day with President George W. Bush as his administration reacted to the unfolding events. Reading the story one thing that struck me was the lack of immediate information about the attacks available to the airborne White House. They had televisions with rabbit ear antennas and rarely more than a few minutes of TV coverage to watch at a time as they blasted around the midwest at mach 0.94. Even Mary Alyce and I, sitting on our Wine Country hillside, were watching satellite TV that day. Today, of course, we all have news and social media coming-in through a wide variety of channels and nothing is very private for long.
But how much more secure from terrorist attacks are we today then we were back in 2001? We’re somewhat more secure, I suppose. Cockpit doors on airliners are now armored. And surely we got something for the trillion dollars or more spent building a counter-terrorism security apparatus and attacking terrorist enclaves for 15 years. Still it’s remarkably easy for small groups of determined people to make trouble if they want to, especially if they keep quiet about their activities until it is too late. In those cases our advantage lies in societal mass alone since no one terrorist attack can really damage our society, can it? Can it?
I’ve seen a lot in my 40+ years of writing the news and in those experiences are points where the game clearly changed. Back in the 70s I remember sitting in the OPEC headquarters lobby in Vienna when Carlos, the Jackal (the primo terrorist of his era) walked in announcing his group as the Palestinian Delegation. They took a dozen oil ministers hostage, eventually ransoming them for more than $100 million. That was the era of entrepreneurial terrorism. Carlos was in it for the bucks and the last thing he wanted was to die in a 9-11-style suicide attack.
So the first change was the rise in terrorism, itself, inspired I’d say by the success of the Irish Republic Army — another outfit I covered at one time. The second change was the advent of suicide attacks in the 90s. Suicide attacks were both militarily successful and dramatically destabilizing.
In the old days it’s not that I felt safe working in those parts of the world but I at least felt that I was playing a role that was useful for all sides. That changed, first with the journalist hostage-taking and then when it all became about body counts. Danny Perl, the Wall Street Journal reporter beheaded in Pakistan, had been a student of mine. When Danny was gone I knew the world had changed again.
And that’s where things have stood in the terrorism business until quite recently when I began to feel a new shift driven, in large part, by hacking. Using malware to destroy Iranian uranium centrifuges was a brilliant tactic but not without consequences. Today everyone hacks everyone else. That destabilized both the more traditional blow-yourself-up terrorists and the smaller nation-state players who came to realize that their hackers could be just as good as our hackers and maybe better.
One thing super powers like least of all is a level playing field and that’s what we are approaching today.
If everyone is equal, then, how do you stand out? Better still, how do you win?
In the last week North Korea has fired missiles, detonated an atomic bomb and outlawed sarcasm. It is no coincidence that these events all happened on the eve of a big 9-11 anniversary. It’s Kim Jong-Un’s way of crashing the 9-11 party. He will not (and cannot) be ignored.
I mention the part about Kim banning sarcasm in private discussions among North Koreans. We tend to see that as a joke but it isn’t. It’s a demonstration of power. When Winston Churchill was Britain’s Colonial Secretary in 1922 he had a telephone conversation with the Sharif of Mecca, great-grandfather of today’s King Abdullah of Jordan. The connection was bad so the Sharif ordered all other phone calls stopped so he could hear Churchill more clearly on the now eerily quiet phone line. “Could I order something like that?” wondered King George V when told about the call. “No, probably not.” Yet that’s exactly what Kim Jong-Un has done, proving his power to control people.
North Korea has unreliable ICBMs and a modest nuclear capability with steadily increasing yields from 1-10 kilotons. It is not likely that their nukes have been weaponized (made battlefield deployable), nor will they even likely fit inside the ICBM, though that’s what they claim. The North Koreans also have a submarine IRBM, but their creaky submarines probably can’t make it to the U.S. west coast.
But that doesn’t matter. If you are a U.S. President and are told there is only a small chance that North Korea can merge their delivery and weapon systems into an effective device, would you place Seattle or LA at even a tiny risk?
No U.S. President would take that chance. Even the remote probability of a serious threat will constrain U.S. freedom of action and thus achieve North Korean (or Russian or Chinese) goals without even having a real weapon system (real by USAF standards).
But what’s to be done, then, about North Korea? Economic sanctions don’t work, so we’re probably talking espionage because a direct military attack is out of the question unless the South Koreans do it for us. Ironically, espionage is exactly what North Korea seems to fear because their antagonistic actions are virtually guaranteeing it will happen. There will eventually be an incident, win or lose North Korea’s position on the world stage will be enhanced as a result with the world being further destabilized at the same time.
This kind of national behavior is a logical next step for second tier players in a world with only one true super-power left to harass.
This super power (the US) should devote most of its energies to improving the lives of its own people and quit messing with the lives of people in other lands. If possible, those US elites causing trouble for the peoples of the world need to be arrested and jailed.
What if those people in “other lands” are putting all their time and effort into figuring out how to kill people in OUR land? Should we not “mess” with them until they have actually physically arrived IN our land? Or should we try to stop them in their “other land” BEFORE they come to our land and kill us?
And by the way…most of the terorrists who have attempting to come to OUR land are, themselves, the most well-off, elite privileged and rich…usually at the expense of the rest of their own indigent population….part of their own elite power structure who cause trouble for other peoples of the world.
Well said, Dee. We can’t risk another Pearl Harbor dragging us in to WWIII. Or another 9/11 or local bombings.
US anti terrorism is empty rhetoric. If they were serious, the first thing they would do is secure the borders. It is the same as just opening your front door and leaving it that way while you are home or away, awake or sleeping.
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The wars are BS as well. Always about controlling oil when you cut to the chase.
Too much heated talk about borders and not enough honest listening. A lot of the domestic terrorists so far are American-born or already lived here and wouldn’t get stopped at the borders. Building walls is a simplistic and reactive retreat from deeper solutions.
What motivates many of these people will not be kept away by borders. As long as Youtube can share the voices of the outside world with hundreds of millions of people within the walls you’ll find someone who it resonates with and you’ll get a Boston Marathon backpack or a trailer parked in central OK City.
+1. Moorehead.
Dee: We have used the preemptive argument for far too long, and we too frequently end up provoking the very attacks we are supposed to be fending off.
What did the Philippines, Australia, Maylasia, Thailand, India, China, Russia, England, France, Belgium, Sudan, Nigeria, and all the other myriad countries attacked by these people do to deserve it? Were they all preemptive and provoking? Should all the world lay down and beg for mercy?
How many people join these organizations in Afghanistan or Somalia because it provides their best road to financial or physical safety? Assist the governments in these places to offer a better life through paths other than these groups and you’ll see people respond.
Greetings, everyone. I appreciated all of the interesting comments that my posting provoked.
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“facebook blocks this” is a great example of “how much our lives have — and haven’t — changed”, on many levels.
Your description of the threat by North Korea sounds rather like the Peter Sellers film, “The Mouse That Roared”.
More seriously, the biggest threat from terrorism is the threat of fear:
No matter how remote the prospect of substantial harm, if they can make us sufficiently afraid so that we abandon our carefree and peaceful lifestyles for a life of fear, suspicion, surveillance and looking for terrorists under every bed, then they have defeated us. Similarly, if we respond to persecution, injustice and and wanton destruction with more of the same, we have abandoned our moral high ground and the terrorists win again. When will we learn to be ‘Better than them’?
People are very bad at judging relative risks (probability vs consequences). I saw statistics recently on how many thousand Americans are killed every year by other Americans with licensed guns or road crashes, compared to the very few killed by terrorists, fewer yet by ‘suspect’ immigrant minorities. Yet terrorism is the big fear that $Billions and many soldiers’ lives are spent fighting.
Without any comment on their politics, somehow Israel…probably the country whose citizens are one of the most at risk of terrorist attacks against innocent civilians….has managed to provide reasonable protection against terrorist attacks without its citizens leaving in constant fear and suspicion nor a totalitarian government of surveillance and persucution against the innocent.
no offense but many Israelis live in fear and their government persecutes the innocent quite often and quite often over such harmless things as antiquities-dealing and citations in scholarly journals. see Biblical Archaeological Review for details.
There are benefits from having guns, knives, swimming pools, buckets, cars, etc. Terrorists, not so much.
South Korea has, of necessity, developed a good intelligence system against Nut Korea. we are reasonably well-covered in that regard. as well as having our Aegis cruisers in the area, one is now almost always near Japan. you are now free to conduct your own life.
I don’t know about that statement “No U.S. President would take that chance.” I can think of one current candidate who would consider it acceptable losses if it means they could ultimately ‘win’. Because winning is all that matters, to that person. We are entering an age where the technical ignorance of the upper echelons of government has become truly dangerous. One could argue that it has always been the case, but throughout history technology as a topic for rulers was mostly focused on weapons and the overall engines of war…today, it is all weaponry, and it’s the ‘types’ of war that are far more varied than in the past. So a ruler can’t just turn to a handful of generals to get the information they need to make a decision regarding the safety of the nation. Yes, they can get a bigger cadre of advisors, but too many technical issues require too deep a level of understanding to really make an informed decision…
Just arrange to have your kids create a kickstarter project for the North Korean nuclear program. That will solve the problem since nothing will ever get done:
http://kickscammed.com/project/mineserver-where-art-thou/
https://www.cringely.com/2015/09/29/the-cringely-boys-kickstart-mineserver-a-99-minecraft-server/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/583591444/mineservertm-a-99-home-minecraft-server/description
Sorry, this is an off topic comment.
It may seem off topic, but the problem is a year old, and to those involved, it goes to the credibility of the current topic’s author. I’m not involved, but I can relate to the plight of customers who are being ignored.
I’ll second that.
I’ve been reading Cringely since the ’80’s when he wrote for a PC magazine. He’s built his reputation over a long period of time.
I saw the announcement for the Mineserver here all those months ago. I didn’t order one as I’m not a gamer, I just thought it was an interesting project for his kids.
For months now there have been consistent complaints in comments here about the Mineserver project and lack of feedback to the Kickstarter backers. At first I chalked it up to trolling but it persisted for so long that I thought I’d visit the Kickstarter page to see for myself. I must say I don’t blame their backers for complaining. Communication from the Cringelys has been sparse, insufficiently informative and unresponsive to backers’ legitimate complaints. Requests for refunds and as-is product have reportedly gone ignored. Backers are resorting to FTC complaints and self-organizing to increase their leverage.
Robert X Cringely owes it to his own hard-earned reputation to address this issue both to his Kickstarter backers and to his audience here where he announced the project. The last update here was six months ago when he predicted they would start shipping “next week”.
Dear America
Please understand that invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and killing many thousands of people and destroying the civil life of millions does not make people like you more or have sympathy for your loss. Research and local polling has shown that it does indeed have the opposite affect.
Yours Sincerely
Ms. Ira Key
Whatever criticism can made against North Korea, its nuclear weapons tests are a perfectly rational reaction to western treatment of other “rogue nations”. Look at what happened to Iraq and Libya, who played nice and completely abandoned their nuke programs.
Not only did those two countries’ leaders meet a nasty end after the West fabricated allegations in order to overthrow them (Saddam’s alleged WMDs and Gaddafi’s alleged plan to massacre civilians). The Iraqi and Libyan state institutions were destroyed as well, resulting in lawlessness, continued war and misery for millions.
So it’s not just Kim Jong-Un who has motivation for holding onto the only powerful deterrent against “regime change”, should Washington decide that he’s next on the list. However bad life is right now under the current system, the alternative doesn’t look very promising for North Koreans. Given what has happened in other countries, there’s no reason to believe that the western powers will replace it with anything better.
All the North Koreans have to do is look to the south to see how much better life can be with a regime change. That is the current regime’s greatest fear.
This. Poor little Saddam was playing some high stakes cards when he was knocked over. Libya I have a bit more sympathy for (at least on the international stage.)
As I understand it North Korea got their initial nuclear weapons technology from Pakistan. Nothing now stops North Korea selling what they have to anyone with cash. That’s quite a danger right there.
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China can’t be too pleased with North Korea either because if the economy in North Korea melts down or another famine happens, then there will be a flood of refugees to China. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were talks about a mutual Chinese-U.S. military intervention in North Korea to take out their nuclear capability and decapitate the regime. The U.S. would have to assure the Chinese that they could do what they want with what remains afterwards, but it could happen. Kind of a Sino-U.S. police action.
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While I don’t think that police action is likely, it’s just not impossible, I can’t see a Stuxnet-type hack working. I don’t know what kind of black ops could work either. The situation would call for a significant attack to wipe out all known silos & subs and it’s hard for me to see a unilateral U.S. attack without China on-board.
… and customer # 1 for North Korea (or Pakistan) is Saudi Arabia. They see Iran nuking up, and the US not preventing it, so they figure it’s time to take matters into their own hands. They’re losing their grip on the region, Iran is ascendant, and they must be able to defend themselves (militarily, diplomatically, economically).
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Nukes in Saudi Arabia. What could possibly go wrong? Once they get them, you know their neighbors will, too.
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Japan, for their part, are frankly just a few wrench-turns away from turning their own nuclear capability on. They also see the US not preventing North Korean aggression, or – put another way – not sufficiently defending Japan. Even South Korea could get into the game.
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Quite an impressive legacy for a president who earned the Nobel Peace Prize for his potential to reduce the threat of nuclear war.
Re: “earned the Nobel Peace Prize for his potential to reduce the threat of nuclear war” I can remember when having potential was a criticism, as in “Johnny has great potential, if he would just apply himself”. 🙂
It is a mater of perspective.
Yeah, I know that the US will have to deal with the nutcases in North Korea and the middle east. But frankly, the issues of global warming and loss of jobs to technology are a 1000 times bigger issues. To that I’d like to add the nuclear arsenal that the US and Russia. North Korea might be able to take out a city or two – the big boys can take out a good part of the world.
Don’t you Cats know if we don’t fight them over there,will have to fight them on Fifth Avenue ! ….
COMEDY GOLD !
starving Nut Korean zombies fuelled on hate /vs/ fat New Yorkers who don’t stop looking at their phones, except to raise their lattes.
we’re doomed.
stop them over there, please.
I backed the Kickstarter – Mineserver (TM) with 74.00 with the promice that a mineserver would be mailed to me by November, 2015. I initially contacted the creator with some questions; they did not respond. I then expressed concern in the comments section and asked for them to contact me, they did not respond. I requested my money back; they did not respond. I found the business webpage of the creator, and when I would post my complaints there, they would create an “update,” but would not respond to me directly. Many people have asked for the return of their money, and none of us have gained a response. This “business” has even stopped updating us on any steps they are making to fulfill their project. At this point the family has made 35,000.00 of others money with NO product being shipped out, no communitcations to individual backers, and now, no updates to the public in general. Please contact this compnay and demand that they send out the product they claimed they have already produced (check out the update on – https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/583591444/mineservertm-a-99-home-minecraft-server/posts/1444422 I would just like whatever product has been produced at this point, or I would like my money back.
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It’s Daniel Pearl, not Perl. The least you could do for your ‘former student’ who was murdered by terrorists is spell his name correctly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl
According to documents, KSM claimed to have been responsible for his murder, which no one believes. It is suspected that the government put in that detail replacing something else, perhaps a successful attack that they have not acknowledged. Maybe that plane after 9/11 that they said was mechanical failure.
According to John’s Wikipedia article, 3 people were convicted of the murder, with KSM admitting, apparently under torture, to merely being the executioner. Perhaps Bob can blame the spelling error on the programming language.
28 of 29 items were released unredacted. Only #3 was redacted in the first release. Later release said Daniel Pearl.
#4 was TWO shoe bombings. Only one was identified. Perhaps the NYC flight was another one.
No reason to redact an execution of Daniel Pearl.
But then he wasn’t a teacher, anyway.
https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Stanford-Says-Cringely-Never-Completed-Doctorate-2979415.php
Hey, look Mr. Cringely! It’s THURSDAY! The day you PROMISED “we won’t make THAT mistake again!” to your backers of the Mineserver kickstarter.
Isn’t it time for an update?
Was this project just to fund the laser cutter you have? You lead the backers to believe a YEAR AGO when the campaign was going on that just a few things and they would be out the door in time for Christmas.
Please make it right. A lot of people spent a lot of money believing in you.
I’m an adult and I still believe in Santa Claus and fairies. But I’ve never seen a fairy despite having never seen one. I want to believe in Mineserver, too.
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Don’t forget that we now have Carrie Mathison to protect us all.
The most frustrating element is how far we have moved away from fact based debate and decision making. We need to look at root causes and eliminate these – cheaper and more durable.
At the root of fundamental discontent is really not religion, but a sense of powerlessness and lack of economic opportunity. Societies need help in being stabilized not by brute suppression but economic and environmental stability. This means investment and subsidies, but they would be cheaper in spending trillions on weapons systems. We need to dismantle our military-industrial complex. It is not serving us.
As a society, we need to deal with our own troubles such as the increasing income gap, unequal political power, and lack of transparency. All of these issues make our own polity unstable and prevent us from being a trusted examples to the rest of the world.
The current approach cannot succeed. You are correct that science and engineering make it possible for small groups and individuals to have enormous negative impact, which we cannot prevent. We need to remove motivation instead of fostering it.
Peter Turchin and his colleagues draw interesting conclusions based on a the (relatively) new field of historical analysis call Cliodynamics. More here: http://peterturchin.com
— Harald
Lots of these terrorists are middle class or wealthy people. They are not acting because of powerlessness or lack of economic opportunity, but religion.
I just prepare to write how you, Americans, are “sick” (after reading article) nation and then I read your comment. I agree absolutly with you, there is hope for you as nation.
I can not believe that others are so a) stupid? b) arrogant c) misinformed that can agree with opression, militarization of domestic force, losing civil rights in own country, fabricating events in light of approving new military actions against all over the world. And you will lose at the end if you, as nation, do not take another path.
Articulate and as on the point as ever.
‘Lots of these terrorists are middle class or wealthy people.’ …Cringely maybe this is a way to get out of this mess your in !!!!
It seems odd to me that very little is being mentioned here regarding one of Bob’s initial observations in his column above: how much has changed since 2001. The threat of large scale cyber attacks is about to reach, if not overtake, the scale of damage that can be done with a nuclear attack. Sure there won’t be nearly as many burnt bodies or decimated buildings, but given the degree to which we now rely on the internet to conduct our transactions and manage our lives, and the speed with which that reliance is increasing, the day is not long when a well planned, targeted, and executed cyber attack could literally bring a country to its knees in short order. Some would say we’re already there. And the ease with which such an attack can be executed relative to a physical attack should be of much greater concern to people that it apparently seems to be these days.
Two questions……
#1 In the last 15 years how many Americans have been killed by terrioists? Let’s include overseas
#2 (can you guess where this going) How many Americans have been killed in the USA by gun toting Americans?
You are a global laughing stock. Sort you own backyard out before trying to police the rest of the world.
Re: “Sort you own backyard out before trying to police the rest of the world.” That’s exactly what the US was doing when it was dragged into WWII by Pearl Harbor. Lesson learned. It’s easy to bury one’s head in the sand, but hard to prevent an attack it the first place.
Total U.S. Military Gulf War Deaths: 73,846
* Deaths amongst Deployed: 17,847
* Deaths amongst Non-Deployed: 55,999
Total number of disability claims filed: 1,620,906
* Disability Claims amongst Deployed: 407,911
* Disability Claims amongst Non-Deployed: 1,212,995
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@Jovanovic October 18, 2016 at 10:31 pm:
We buried our head in the sand prior to being dragged into WWII at the last minute. Lesson learned. Isolationism is not the solution. Pre-emptive defense is in our own interest as well as that of the rest of free world, along with diplomacy, foreign aid, trade, and other economic incentives. The latter works for most sensible nations, but not for the crazies driven only by hatred and a desire to die to achieve some imagined benefits in the after life.