At least one reader pointed out that I somehow missed 2016 Prediction #4, so let me throw something in right here. Steve Jobs: The Lost Interview will shortly return to Netflix worldwide!
Our movie was on Netflix in the USA and Canada for a couple of years (it’s still streaming on Netflix in the UK) but the North American deal ended sometime in November when rights reverted from Magnolia Pictures back to John Gau Productions. The film had already disappeared from iTunes and Amazon, etc., but we hadn’t noticed because, well, Magnolia didn’t bother to mention it and we’re only pretending to be movie producers.
You don’t work directly with these streaming outfits if your body of work is one movie made from a VHS tape found on a shelf in somebody’s garage. You go through an aggregator. Once we finally realized that our film had lost distribution (the money was so little and the delay in payment was so long that it was hard to even tell) we set about finding a new aggregator, which we finally gained in Los Angeles-based Bitmax. Still it then takes months to get the movie back up and streaming even places it was running just fine last year. So don’t expect to see the film again on Amazon or iTunes, for example, until sometime this spring. And it probably won’t make Netflix again until summer.
Our Bitmax deal doesn’t involve sharing revenue. We learned our lesson and are paying the company a fixed fee with them passing-through all royalties. It will be a year or so before we know whether this was a smart move or not but for now it feels right.
The new Netflix deal isn’t through Bitmax because they didn’t then have their own deal with Netflix (now they do, apparently), so we extended our non-exclusive deal with the UK aggregator, Filmbuff, to cover the entire Netflix world. Little did we know that Netflix would shortly be adding 130+ countries to their list!
So the movie is returning, but slowly, and we expect it to be around for many years to come. Viewers love it of course and we’re proud to have made something so long ago that holds up so well.
But while I have you on the line let’s talk a little about Netflix, itself. I first met Netflix chief content guy Ted Sarandos at a winery in the hills above Silicon Valley in 1998. It was at a corporate event for Maxtor, the hard drive company (now part of Seagate) and I was the dinner speaker. Pay me a lot of money and I’ll speak for your company, too.
Sarandos was attending for Netflix and after dinner and my 50 minutes of this-and-that we sat at the tasting bar and he told me the Netflix strategy, which was to become exactly what they are today. This was 18 years ago, back when Netflix made all its money delivering DVDs through the Post Office, remember, and didn’t stream video at all. Yet even then streaming and producing original shows was the plan. I was impressed.
And I remain impressed. I’m not here to make any 2016 predictions about Netflix, but I wouldn’t bet against them. To maintain a corporate strategy with such success for more than 18 years is a wonder in high tech. It shows vision, discipline, and luck — the three components any tech company needs to change the world.
Robert,
I really wish I could see all the stuff you made over the years.
Most of it is just not available in my country, which is unfortunate because I love your work.
Maybe you could find a way to put everything on Netflix?
Say Bob, speaking of your interview with Steve Jobs, which I enjoyed very much, whatever happened to the interviews from the (NOT in Silicon Valley) Startup Tour?
And how is the project that you and your kids have been working on?
If you look at the Mineserver project on kickstart, you will see a series of infrequent updates stating that “everything is fine and we will shop next week” (since November) In addition, they ignore requests for updates.
Did Season 2 of Nerd TV ever come out?? Loved season 1 and would love to see the rest too.
Curious about this, too. I really enjoyed Season 1 a decade ago.
Hi Bob, you wrote “Little did we know that Netflix would shortly be adding 130+ countries to their list!” Does that mean you’re happy or not happy with the expansion into the additional countries? In other words, does that help with your revenue or hurt it? Cheers,
Bitmax, Filmbuff, and MaxStor? it sounds like you only work with porn distributors…
Google “Steve Jobs lost interview” and it will point you to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_isT7GWplbs
A prediction about a deal you’ve already done? Come on, really mailing them in this year.
Your 1995 interview with Steve Jobs was exceptional. The world is fortunate you were able to find the tapes. Even the process of restoring and enhancing the video is a good story. After being a husband, parent, and raising 3 kids; this video will probably be your second greatest accomplishment for the world. It should be required viewing in every high school and every college.
On a separate note, what should most DEFINITELY be REQUIRED viewing not only for every college student but also for every graduating high school is Steve Jobs’ commencement address at Stanford (in 2005 I think). By far the best commencement address ever made in the history of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
I prefer this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOympYTk3Q
Doesn’t even come close to David Foster Wallace’s at Kenyon.
I learned how to think from my high school plane geometry class, so DFW’s speech seemed like an unnecessary use of 23 minutes. Too bad he committed suicide a few years later.
Of course, one of the things Netflix did to grow the way they did in those early days was send unsolicited commercial E-mail. I remember receiving it. So does this guy and this guy.
That’s why I refuse to use Netflix. I do not do business with SPAMMERS.
Come on, Amazon Prime!
Loves me some Bob & Steve.
I believe that would be Maxtor, not MaxStor.
Bob said “Maxtor”.
Long time reader, first time poster. Been a fan since first watching Triumph Of The Nerds back when it was first broadcast during the 90s.
I didn’t realize The Lost Interview is showing on Netflix here in the UK, i’ll be watching that tonight then!
Keep the predictions coming Bob.
> This was 18 years ago, back when Netflix made all its money delivering DVDs
Netflix still makes all its money delivering DVDs – its the only portion of its business that is actually profitable.
More detail here: https://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-21/netflix-and-dvds-still-together . One thing these reports don’t discuss is the future when 4K with HDR becomes common. At that point internet streaming will be hard pressed to compete with physical media, which could be DVD or Flash-drive based. Of course, downloading for future playback will work, but then we still need to worry about caps based on bytes delivered. Back in the 70s, when we were developing faster modems, we would ask what’s the fastest way to transmit data. The answer: Parcel Post.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a
station wagonminivan full oftapesflash drives barreling down the highway.I’m thrilled about the Netflix news, but I’m curious about DVD distribution. The Lost Interview DVDs seem to have dried up, and as far as I can tell are only available on ebay and similar for $60-$200. Been reading you for a couple decades, but I’m not willing to pony up that much for the movie. Is your distributer going to run another pressing of the dvd?
Bob, it is available here now on Netflix in New Zealand.
I am part way though Walter Isaacson’s biography of Steve Jobs. Your interview really helped to clarify some of the things written about Steve in the book; it was great to hear Steve talk about these ideas in his own words.
Thanks – I really enjoyed the interview.
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