I first arrived in Silicon Valley in 1977 — 45 years ago. I was 24 years old and had accepted a Stanford fellowship paying $2,575 for the academic year. My on-campus apartment rent was $175 per month and a year later I’d buy my first Palo Alto house for $57,000 (sold 21 years later for $990,000). It was an exciting time to be living and working in Silicon Valley. And it still is. We’re right now in a period of economic confusion and reflection when many of the loudest voices have little to no sense of history. Well my old brain is crammed with history and I’m here to tell you that the current situation — despite the news coverage — is no big deal. This, too, shall pass.
But what about the layoffs at Meta and Twitter? Elon is crazy! WTF???
On February 25, 1981, Apple Computer CEO Mike Scott fired 40 percent of the company’s engineering staff at a time when sales were doubling month-over-month and the company had no budgets because there was no way they could spend money fast enough to need budgets. Scott, who left Apple, himself, two months later, said he fired all those engineers and support staff because he feared four year-old Apple was becoming “complacent.” People were gone by the end of the day, when Scott held a companywide beer bust.
Cataclysmic change is par for the course in both startup culture and high tech. If there is going to be a next wave the previous wave has to die. Above is a chart I found from 2015 that shows the Silicon Valley economy starting in 1976. If we were to update this chart there would be a more recent boom, post social media, that I would label Artificial Intelligence, not to be confused with the late-1980s Artificial Intelligence bust that we’ve all forgotten about.
That original AI debacle is significant because it was caused by over-enthusiasm. The idea of AI made perfect sense in 1987 — the exact same sense it makes today — but nobody really understood how much computing power would be required to make those dreams come true. If AI was impractical in 1987 but is practical today thanks to Moore’s Law, how bad was our aim, exactly?
Our aim was pathetic and fortunes were lost on that pathos.
Let’s do the math. The original AI funding boom began in the late 1980s. Implicit in the VC model at the time was it taking no more than two Moore’s Law cycles from initiating the wave to launching real products. If VCs were funding companies in 1987, they expected big things from one or more of those startups by 1990. Moore’s Law said the cost of computing drops by 50 percent every 18 months so that implies that VCs in 1987 and the founders who were pitching to those VCs thought that AI would be technically practical by 1990 at which point a basic unit of computing power that cost one 1987 dollar would cost 25 cents in 1990.
IF AI is indeed economically practical today (some people still aren’t convinced that it is) mid-2021 marked 23 complete Moore’s Law cycles, meaning the computing power that cost $1 in 1987 had been reduced to $0.00000006.
Venture capitalists who bet several hundred million 1987 dollars that AI would have some chance of being economically practical at $0.25, were wrong by 48 million X.
It’s easy to look back, make these calculations, and feel smug, but that’s not even close to my point. My point is that the very VCs who lost all that money are generally zillionaires today. They kept betting on what was, for the most part, a growing tech economy.
The most important part of being a successful venture capitalist in the last 40 years has been maintaining some dry powder for future investments and staying in the game.
I could easily argue that AI in 1987 looks very similar to the metaverse in 2021. Meta (formerly Facebook) is losing $10 billion per year betting on its metaverse strategy. Recent layoffs suggest that Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg is reevaluating his expected timeline for success.
How long can Zuckerberg afford to continue dumping billions into metaverse development? Given Meta’s corporate structure giving Zuckerberg personal voting control of the company, that question comes down to how long Meta will have enough excess cashflow to cover the costs. IF Meta is cutting its burn rate in half with these layoffs (a good argument I think) Zuckerberg can continue spending at this rate… forever. This assumes Meta continues to make lots of money with current products, but it also identifies Zuck as probably the only person in the history of tech who could make this bet pay off IF the meta verse actually becomes the next big thing.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Meta. Zuck might just run out of energy or — more likely — some competing next big thing may come along to distract him. I’m not sure it really matters much.
What does matter is that in high tech change is the norm, flux is nearly constant, and what we are seeing in the current weakness is probably change that should have happened years ago but for all the cheap money.
Silicon Valley relies on startups for ideas and growth. Startups require cheap office space and engineers looking for work. Boom and bust is not a bad thing for Silicon Valley it’s how Silicon Valley evolves.
This too shall pass.
I believe Gordon revised the law some time ago to say the doubling happens ever 2 years, not 18 months. It doesn’t change your argument, just your numbers.
Quote: “This too shall pass.”
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Okay.
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But another way of interpreting the graph is this: the boom and bust cycles in Silicon Valley are continuing, but the total number of jobs has remained roughly the same since 1990, despite the overall population increasing.
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Which means that good, high-paying jobs are going to become relatively more scarce over time. Which has all sorts of implications for the future, none of them good.
Of course, it would be easier to come to this conclusion if the graph went beyond 2013. That’s nearly ten years ago. Maybe the total number of jobs has increased dramatically since then! Maybe it hasn’t! It would be nice to know the answer to this question.
Well, I’d be waiting forever for Cringely to address this point, so I did a quick Google search to find out if things have changed dramatically in terms of Silicon Valley employment from 2013 to 2022.
Spoiler: they didn’t. Total employment, as measured in three different tiers, has remained essentially flat. There was a small bulge over the last two years, but now it’s trending down again. The numbers seem roughly consistent with Cringely’s old graph, if you add up all three tiers.
https://siliconvalleyindicators.org/data/economy/employment/employment-by-tier/total-employment-by-tier-silicon-valley/
Nice link – thanks
re: Mr Reimer:
and this gets more complicated as more and more developers enter the market but not from America, changing the definition of “high-paying”.
I think Zuck is in trouble. He’s no visionary, investing in a technology proven to make 40-70% of the population nauseous doesn’t seem like a sound business strategy, it’s an act of desperation. Facebook’s user base consisting primarily of “over 45’s” is shrinking and he’s been unable to buy or successfully copy anything else since What’s App. Zoom calls are annoying enough, no one wants to wear headsets just to have a meeting, and screen sharing works just as well as a cartoon whiteboard. No doubt the metaverse will find some niche uses, much like the Segway was going to revolutionize transportation and cause cities to be redesigned but ended up only being used by mall cops and warehouse workers.
That should be no one wants to wear *VR* headsets just to have a meeting.
No one wants to wear an expensive VR headset to be fed ads from Facebook advertisers.
I know someone that works in sales for Facebook, and when recounting the layoffs a week ago was telling me and a group of friends that “if I could put the headset on you you would love it so much! But I can’t sell it unless you’re in it.”
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Sales people in tech often seem like a company’s true believers, but if she’s representative of who’s left (she didn’t get laid off but many on her team did), they still don’t have a clue why nobody’s interested in this. The engineers might be disillusioned but the sales people at least are clinging to this.
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Separately I’ve asked her what benefit I could get out of holding a remote meeting as cartoon avatars rather than over zoom and her response was that “so you can point at things.” And I couldn’t imagine… ever needing to do that.
Twenty years ago, I putzed around with Second Life using an AT&T ADSL connection to the internet. Second Life is interesting put lacks a story line that other computer games provide. I’m guessing we are at least 50 years from a useful version of Second Life or Facebook Meta.
I’m actually more interested in what The Sims 5 will be – in regard to virtual reality development. It seems to me that as The Sims approaches more Second Life tech we can see where virtual reality may be in maybe something like 50 years. The thing is… for whatever reason… there are individuals who will spent untold ours playing The Sims. Second Life never seemed to be that engaging.
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Writing the above made me take a peek at The Sims 4 for the first time in several years. There is a huge update downloading. What is EA up to?
Most do not even turn cameras on during MS Teams (or whatever is used) meetings.
AT&T researched this like 5 decades ago. We never got video phones because women don’t want to fix their hair and makeup just to make a call. That’s the end of it, right there. The problem is not the technology.
As for meta, the same social dynamic applies. People want to look cool. You don’t look cool in big ugly looking VR glasses. You look like a nerd. This is death for a technology. Meta will get nowhere, and FB will die unless they adjust to the social dynamics.
I’ve been on Twitter since 2009 and I’m enjoying what Elon Musk is bringing to it. People on the left and on competing news media are pronouncing Twitter dead, but I think that’s just wishcasting. It seems to me all the big social media players will survive and the small upstarts will stay small and die. Layoffs are also used to prune the deadwood in organizations, so while it seems to me the recent layoffs are more than that, certainly the less productive types are also out-the-door. I’m not sure on how AI will come into my life, but I’m envisioning Alexa or Siri just doing more for me as a result of a conversation. That could mean items delivered to my door by self-driving trucks or pilotless drones. There’s a big push for green energy and I could see AI-level intelligence adapting energy use and production levels through the grid. I don’t think we’re done innovating and that should be good news for Silicon Valley. I agree there will be another wave, whatever it turns out to be.
I’d say Meta has the same problem than Harley-Davidson. A customer base that stops growing and keeps aging. The product (Facebook) is popular, but not with the young generations anymore. I seriously doubt that Mr. Z will steer the majority of its customer base into VR headset or grow a new one (ie customer base) that will be big enough before he runs out of money. He might be thinking of replacing smart phones by VR headsets, but if you think texting while driving is bad…imagine what a VR headset sociaty would be for an instant.
[…] I Cringely ☛ What about the layoffs at Meta and Twitter? Elon is crazy! WTF??? […]
Oh dear… So much clickbait boosterism and misdirection in this article. Some facts:
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Mark Stephens (aka Cringely) as usual avoids the public policy sphere. The dot com boom and Silicon valley benefited from economic policy which Alan Greenspan later admitted was bullshit. Around half of the funding for the boom came from European investors. Income inequality also soared from this period onwards. The US also has a submarine patent issue as well as human rights issues around employment rights as well as rigged monopoly regulation turning a blind eye to business sharp practice for economic advantage. That’s not even counting how military spending is used as one big fat subsidy of arguable legality.
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As for AI history is littered with ideas ahead of their time. It can be costly but what was learned back then laid the groundwork for when it become more usable. It’s still not there even today and is still really crude but there are various fields where it can be applied to good effect. AI has also changed from what were glorified expert systems to forms of neural nets, and has shifted from more linear architectures to more parallel architectures. The biggest boost comes not from processors but bandwidth and storage of pre-processed data. Most game developers would be familiar with the concept if they’ve been paying attention. Much like the human brain a good simulation relies on a lot of shortcuts.
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The EU’s biggest strength is, oddly, it’s bureaucracy. The Horizons project is a big EU initiative. It’s not so much in what the project will deliver but more in terms of shaping the economy to grow the tech sector and fields where its benefits may be applied. There’s no razzle dazzle of a small highly marketed place like Silicon Valley. It’s more defuse. The potential is being grown throughout the EU economic area.
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Other economic blocs and countries aren’t sitting on their hands either.
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The point being, unlike Mark Stephens buffoonery, is you can’t step in the same river twice…
Oh, gee, another jealous eurolefty!
Wind power while enriching Putin seems to be what these dolts do best.
Get a real job.
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Before there was Silicon Valley, there was Minneapolis where the first supercomputer was built at CDC and the first social network was built by CDC in the PLATO project where I developed the first multiuser virtual reality FPS game (1974 Spasm).
“The Resource Curse” did, and is still doing, profound damage to the potential of the information age. Normally, economists think of The Resource Curse as applying only to natural resources: A country’s natural resources become valuable and, being controlled by the government, tends to attract to government the worst of the worst to capture all that wealth with negative sum gamesmanship. Wealth and power centralizes and social capital crashes.
Peter Thiel has made reference to a generalization of The Resource Curse as an explanation for why California’s government has been corrupted by the network effect wealth gushing forth from Silicon Valley. But Thiel doesn’t seem to understand that this same kind of wealth — positive network externality wealth — corrupts private institutions that capture it as well as government. That kind of wealth, which is really the proper definition of “monopoly profits” wealth, attracts the worst of the worst from around the world to capture it. At a larger scale, possession of the world’s reserve currency is the ultimate Resource Curse and has created a situation where the counties surrounding Washington DC have the highest median income in the country.
When my coalition got the law passed to privatize launch services back in 1990, it became obvious that this kind of monopoly profit wealth was a disaster for a technological civilization and my 1992 response was to propose a tax reform that would repeal the 16th Amendment and replace it with a single tax on liquidation value of net assets, with the proceeds going out in a citizens dividend to privatize all non-essential social goods.
It’s too late now, though. The West if falling. We aren’t going to be able to vote our way out of this Resource Curse and the loss of social capital. The corruption reaches from the top all the way down to local Chambers of Commerce — as well as the information industry’s centralization of power and partnership with the government to privatize violations of the Bill of Rights.
If you want to know where I stand now, see “Militia Money” at my blog.
> write column about elon and twitter
> forget to mention elon and twitter
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Elon’s actions leave us all speechless.
Not nearly speechless enough. But that’s OK, that rest of us appreciate the seething and frothing.
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In my opinion problem with Silicon Valley is that top companies there are too old, have too much money most of them are either monopolies or more often oligopolies and they have zero intentions to change the world any more – all they want is to maintain status quo.
In one movie (forgot the name) guy asks inventor of time machine : “Did you invent time machine to change the world ?” His answer : ” No I invented it to get so much money to buy private island with a mansion and lot of beautiful women in it.”
All those billionaires do not need any more money. They are just afraid some startup will come and make their companies obsolete or old fashioned therefore stocks will sunk. That is why they buy startups even if they don’t need them.
Future will come from elsewhere. If you look at those promising but for now pipe dream technologies that can radically change the world same computers once did – (fusion, AI, quantum computers) none of the leaders are in Silicon Valley.
Silicon Valley is becoming just like Hamptons and Palm Beach – old people with too much money who are more engaged with architect and interior decorators about renovation of their mansion than with planning of new products.
Elon Musk talks a lot how his acquisition of Twitter is about saving free speech but in one interview he says how he wants to make an application like WeChat – one application for everything so he can get cut from every purchase/transfer and he says Twitter is fastest way to do it – messaging is already there and on top of that he wants to build everything else.
Elon Musk’s X app for ‘everything’ might be a non-starter in the US
https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/08/elon-musk-x-everything-wechat-tesla-app/
Chinese governance and law is very very under-developed. Europe and US and other countries have long established regulation regimes and better developed law. WeChat is a thing in the same way every other notable enterprise is an extension of the Chinese Communist party. Musk trying to build a we chat would only succeed because of corporate favouring regulators and the US constitution being written for rich landlowners and rampant corruption within the increasingly far-right GOP. Not a good look especially for someone who was an illegal immigrant coasting on his families blood emerald fortune. He’s not hugely popular in Europe and has already burned the Germans. They’re not going to forget that in a hurry.
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Space incel is out of ideas. He’s recycling his own control freaking, Paypal, and Amazon.
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Musk also doesn’t have a degree in physics or any other technical field.
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He also lied about Stanford too.
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Is this Space Incels Mineserver?
Dude, go away.
So, so jealous.
And what have you done?
In the film I’LL DO ANYTHING, Julie Kavner’s character says something along the lines of “Hollywood and Washington D.C. have a lot in common. Both are filled with over-privileged people terrified of losing their privilege.”
One might add Silicon Valley to that illustrious caste.
Space Incel binned Twitter employees on H1B visas the day before Thanksgiving. A good day to bury bad news and catastrophic for job hunting to keep visa status.
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This is nasty especially considering he used him families apartheid era emerald mine money to buy his way out of being an illegal immigrant himself, and he doesn’t have a degree in physics nor has he a Masters or PhD from Standford but an economics “degree” bought from a degree mill!
You obviously have a degree in idiocy.
He builds rockets; you talk trash.
Your mother must be so proud,
Space Incel is claiming he held his son who died of SIDS in his arms as he died. His ex-wife popped up saying that was a lie and the baby died in her arms.
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Space Incel even lied in their prenup about the value of his holdings prior to the merger which became Paypal.
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Wow. I’m doing a better job than “Haircut” so far uncovering all this!
Good column. Sorry, Im just here to read trashtalk’s take. Hi luv. We don’t know each other professionally or personally. You bring a little life to this place. Thanks!
Thanks. I like conversation.
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Space Incel is threatening to produce his own smartphone if Google and Apple remove Twitter from their app stores due to his now very obvious far-right takeover.
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https://trendingpolitics.com/
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shorturl.at/MP359 (ShortURL because of stupid word filter.)
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Half of Twitter’s top 100 advertisers have also gone walkies.
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https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk
Space Incel is now dishing out neo-Nazi dogwhistles on Twitter.
Space Incel is discovering that market valuation is not proof of genius.
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-i-quit-elon-musks-twitter
Space Incel loses in the Irish courts over firing Twitter employees. If Ireland removes legal gateway status to the EU from Twitter then Twitter is liable for every regulation in every EU country that twitter operates. The fines could be catastrophic. Twitter could be crushed.
Trash talk – the eurotrash lefty – is delusional.
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Cringely stupidly confuses hardware and software. Who cares if chips get faster and faster, when the software gets more bloated and stupid? Try finding anything with a google search and you mostly just walk away empty handed. Despite the fact that they have the equivalent of thousands of super computers. Yes, it’s fast — but it’s junk.
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AI doesn’t work. Unless it is for a very narrow application where the rules are clearly defined. If you think self driving cars will ever work, then you need to be fired from your tech job immediately. Humans don’t drive successfully because they have a gigantic database stored in their brains, covering every eventuality. This is the wrong approach. We don’t understand how how our brains can simplify such complex tasks.
Is this the Mineserver update?
Nope.
It’s the SWINEserver update!
Don’t you mean the WHINEserver update?
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Old Zuck will lose because of fragmentation of virtual reality.
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FaceBook increased because everyone saw it as useful to themselves, and allowed their “data” to be commercialised by Zuck. Now they are more savvy ( see FB v iphone security ) and Zuck is hoping that what FB made will happen with VR.
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Well NO!
Why grans who like flowers see no use of VR. Teens who Fkuc see no use for VR mates. Experts will sell their knowledge to others like Miners Shipbuilders etc and old Zuck will be squeezed out.
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Who will benefit from VR will be the Movie Studios.
And the VR manufacturers
Not old Zac
Apple has sat on VR headset for a long time and they don’t know how to sell the item or to whom.
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Hi Bob.
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Welcome back.
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I’ll let you name my next rescue kitten if you let me fix your site’s CSS.
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I’d even scrub your comment history to fix everyone’s paragraphs.
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Think about it.
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Cheers, Jason
Year end.
Looking for Cringely predictions for 2023 and a review of 2022.
Robert,
Please write an article about GPT3. The tech world is massively buzzing about this and would love your take. Is this the WWW equiv of 1998…lots of blue sky…rise and fall of companies…or something else
Robert,
Please write an article about GPT3. The tech world is massively buzzing about this and would love your take. Is this the WWW equiv of 1998…lots of blue sky…rise and fall of companies…or something else
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Micheal Martins resignation and a thousand and one dirty fixeires.
Gerry Adams political career didnt kinda of end or fizzled out it just simply helter Skeltered,
day by day it went from one calamity to another enough said here.Over the years he gathered
an en·tou·rage of hate mailers and discredited an anti fan club so to speak.Gardagate was part
of Gerrys big slide.
This article is produced by realists that politely explain that the republic of Ireland and more
to the point many people who live here have great difficulty understanding their concept of
Internationalism and further more just to add more fuel to theire fireland what some regard
as socialism is far from reality..many political web sites for example describing Sinn fein
today as a democratic socialist party ..dont bother.
In a democratic country law courts require evidence PERIOD,this article starts with a
named British MI6 officer Simon O Brien former head of GSOC (the irish police complaints
people) you got a problem with the cops you go to GSOC and make a complaint, the
IPCC being its sister organization within the UK boundaries.
Gerry Adams was involved in Gardagate (Go Google hit for yourselves !) .Enter a writer
writing about this historical episode who was viscously attacked by an Irish Independent
Newspaper editor using a firearm,a laptop was damaged in the attack however the writer
didnt report himself to the police.This incident is documented on many blogs and sites.
The newspaper editor months later invented a story line whereby he claimed to the
police a man had threatened him with a weapon.A court case was setup.Basically there
was no evidence to substantiate the editors claims he was threatened with a weapon or
the incident ever occurred,no witness on camera nothing at all.
The judge had no evidence only a newspaper editor in court making false claims.The
writer certainly didnt threaten anybody and denied threatening or meeting the same
man who had attacked him at a later date after his laptop had been smashed up.
In court it was proven that the Newspaper editor lied to the Irish police. in instances
where a person giving evidence is a proven liar then a solicitors company should
apply the procedure of requesting the judge to discontinue, Kieran Conway Solicitors
failed to present litigation and provide process to stop a court hearing,this is why of
late Kieran Conway has been described online conservatively as a right wing solicitor.
Par se…when a person gives false evidence in court by word of mouth if they are
proven in court to have lied to the police before the court hearing then they can no
longer be allowed in law itself to continue to give evidence if it alters the case,
also a request is made to ask the judge to provide the physical/scientific evidence
to continue with to make a judgment other than the word of a liar,you politely explain
externally the judge would be in contempt of court procedure for not having evidence
and accepting the word of a false witness thus a request to discontinue the case is
placed physically upon the court record.Kieran Conway Solicitors company
(Conway-former IRA Intelligence Officer) made a fatal political error in not applying
on record to strike out the court case on the basis it was a false interment order.
Micheal Martin is very much aware of The Irish Independent Newspaper involvement in
Espionage and Sinn Fein being an American backed spoof ball sorting office type
organization.
The produces of this article do not support political violence or dope for hope schemes.
https://uploadify.net/7f04fc799af684ee/2.mp4
Paul Graham just got banned by the now Musk owned Twitter for posting that he was taking a break and a Mastodon link was on his personal website.
While Mark Stephens (aka Cringely) was busy hyping cryptocurrency I said that cryptocurrency was dead and was going to get banned.
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The other shoe is dropping.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3779731-senate-banking-chairman-says-maybe-to-cryptocurrency-ban/
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Senate banking chairman says ‘maybe’ to cryptocurrency ban
They won’t ban it for several reasons :
– As Mr. Brown said “Maybe banning it, although banning it is very difficult because it will go offshore and who knows how that will work.” If cryptocurrency companies move offshore they won’t pay taxes in the US and they don’t have any control over their business any more that is main reason.
– They pay lot of money to energy companies for crypto mining that is another reason but not main reason
– All those laid off people who would loose jobs won’t vote for them that is another reason but not main reason
– Other expenses they have related to business side (rent, licensing fees, lobbying expenses) are reason why local governments don’t won’t them to leave too.
It was completely same situation with online gambling and at the end they just decided it is more wise to leave it up to the states to determine that so now a few states allow that and the rest of them don’t.
The jobs dependent upon the crypto industry are shockingly small. That won’t be a factor at all.
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The industry has shrunk by 50%+, cash investments have been vaporized with absolutely nothing left behind and the seismic needle hasn’t twitched at all in either the job market or even the broader economy.
As we talk about cryptocurrency it seems digital dollar won’t come any time soon:
Digital Dollar Is a Long Way From Reality, US Treasury Official Says
– Need for CBDC currently doesn’t exist, undersecretary says
– Fed won’t issue CBDC without clear Congress, executive support
https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/12/21/140220/digital-dollar-is-a-long-way-from-reality-us-treasury-official-says
You are so beyond ignorant.
You called the internet a fad.
You said no one wanted a pc.
You are THAT guy…
Of all the pro-crypto arguments, this has to be the most stupid. And that’s really saying something!
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Bitcoin came out in 2009. Today it’s 2023. That’s 14 years. And yet crypto proponents are still saying “it’s still early! Just keep waiting! Just like the Internet!”
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Well, the World Wide Web was first launched in 1991. If we go forward 14 years, that brings us to 2005. The Internet was completely entrenched in everyday life by then. Facebook and YouTube had already been released! All the use cases we have today were already established and understood by everyone.
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Crypto is dead. There’s no money left after fleecing all the suckers. Just let it go.
Correction: the first web browser wasn’t released until 1993. Still, the same argument applies.
Back to topic, I think Zuck and his metaverse investment might have been lucky that he was able to launch the effort while Facebook was still generating ad revenue. Now, he just needs to hang on and continue to be lucky. I do have a Quest Oculus headset and can say that I was both underwhelmed and blown away at the same time. It will be an advance for gamers. Not sure it will take over the living room as it’s not exactly a social experience.
John Carmack just quit Meta after posting a pretty scathing resignation letter. It also (less reported by the media) came a few days after his testimony in the FTC action against Meta’s latest VR acquisition. It will be familiar to Cringely readers who saw similar, note-for-note condemnations of IBM, DEC and other legacy technology giants in the 1980s.
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It’s finally come time that the facade behind Big Tech – that it “innovates” – is falling apart. They are without exception just gigantic trusts — keepers of piles of money that buy up any upstart that might challenge their market position. Meta’s pursuit of VR was supposed to show it as Silicon Valley’s great “innovator”, but this attempt to “innovate” is again basically predicated upon buying rivals and wrapping them into Meta.
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I’m looking forward to them all being broken up or punitively taxed into becoming what they pretend to be.
What amazed me the most about Facebook’s VR efforts was how prosaic, unimaginative, and just plain dull their “virtual world where you can do anything” turned out to be. Like, you have VR Chat that’s right there, just clone that, maybe add some moderation or something, how hard could this be? But the company spent billions to produce a virtual corporate dystopia that nobody, not even their own employees, wanted to spend any time in.
I think the memes of Zuckerberg in front of the Eiffel Tower overshadowed how bad FB’s metaverse is. It’s not just surface level bad. It’s not “what do I do here” bad. It’s Second Life with quirks that users find a lot less endearing.
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I understand why he’s doing this. Meta is being diminished every day because he doesn’t control the output device. Yet he literally needs to invent A WHOLE NEW UNIVERSE for people to be even a little comfortable owning a device that he made. When your reputation is that bad, you should probably pivot but this is the funniest pivot they could have made. It’s like Dow Chemical opening an organic juice kiosk.
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A lot of people are focused on Instagram or Oculus, but FB should have spun off Workplace a few years ago while holding a significant share in exchange for licensing. Business comm/productivity apps/SaaS are massively overvalued now but they’re not going away even if some of the companies with unrealistic valuations (Monday, ClickUp, etc.) are in trouble. That’s the business Workplace should be in. It’s kind of remarkable how ubiquitous they are now even in small and mid-sized businesses. But a substantial part of their business revolves around data storage and nobody feels comfy feeling like that data will be on FB’s servers, forever.
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They should probably do the same with WhatsApp for the same reasons. It’s the most popular “social” app in many countries, and it’s because it has the veil of privacy around it. People don’t want to show photos of their food to strangers anymore. They want to show it to their friends. This is probably something like what the future of “social media” looks like. FB is right there but their hold over WhatsApp may eventually have a very bad impact because it strikes at the heart of the whole reasoning for it. And the more Meta needs money, the more ads they’re going to jam in there and make the connection more obvious and the product less usable.
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Not just for branding but for making decisions with those products that don’t revolve around Zuck and FB’s interests might take them into very different places than where Zuck has them going now. But the reasons they don’t do this are the same reasons they’re doing Third Life. These spinoffs would have to be come real companies making useful software again rather than aggregators for a data funnel from hell. Zero interest in that. That’s why leaving Meta in a locked room with Lina Khan and 20 FTC regulators would be the best for everyone.
Facebook is like talking about 1950s Fords,its a crackpot entity whos many user are all over 40…it will become a giant size woopy cushion once web3 bolws it out of this world…..it does not serve any logical other than to steal your ID,steal your photo,rob you of your credit cards…..it is used mostly by over 40s year olds and is a noncey platform that web3 intendo to obliterate..sorry but we had to pull the pin on this one
Alex Bones wikishitz aka W.W.V
I read Carmack’s comments. He basically discovered what I discovered that self-motivated technical people are not wired to deal with bureaucracies full of nod along comfort ones.
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Mark Stephen’s (aka Cringely) is hideously weak with governance and international regulation and social issues. He has a huge blind spot with this area. Most American’s who buy into the Silicon Valley myth do. That’s why in retrospect “Triumph of the Nerds” is an exercise in myth making and why Nerds 2.0 fell flat on its face.
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The UK computer industry was victim of three things: American scaling and protectionism, a fragmented European market, and massive Far-East state subsidies. There’s also a lot of self-inflicted own goals and wow are we paying for it now.
I came back to this Cringely article because I’ve been running the new AI engine that so many people are discussing:
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https://chat.openai.com/auth/login
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My take on artificial intelligence started decades ago when I was taking an “algorithms course” at university.
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I think the problem people have with artificial intelligence is a matter of expectation-management. Artificial-intelligence (or call it whatever you want) has resulted in useful products for many decades and it will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Things that artificial-intelligence does today are far beyond what was possible 50 years ago.
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I think the problem is that people think that a self-aware, sentient artificial-intelligence will be available in the near future (or at least emulated one). That is not going to happen within the next 100 years – in my opinion. It may not happen in the next 1,000 years.
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Can https://chat.openai.com/auth/login pass the “Turing test? No.
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Will there be a web site that can pass the “TuringTest” in the next 10 years? Maybe.
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Will a truly self-aware artificial intelligence exist within the next 1,000 years? Maybe.
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I do think the amount of time humans spend talking to their devices is going to increase significantly within the not too distant future.
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Will artificial intelligence be the next big thing within the next 10 years? I don’t think so. I do think there will be a lot of people employed working on AI – depending on how you define AI.
I call BS on all AI in any generation AI represents specialized computing algorithms in narrowly focused domains. There is no computer who even comes remotely close to a Harvard orStanford educated adult. The logic in AI is either highly domain focused (with special logic in image or speech pattern recognition), or it s basically useless in reasoning and gathering of contextual clues as a pre-teen kid. Most of the AI sold is true crap. Chatbots. Einstein. Doctors even decided it was easier to just read cancer imaging than to try to program AI to find cancer. And the technologies you call out as important really may not have been a useful or valuable as others you don’t even mention. I the 1980’s GE and a number of other companies created a common electronic way to process what previously were paper documents, purchase orders, shipping manifests, invoices, electronic ACH payments. Debit and credit card processing automated paper transactions and revolutionized commerce from retail POS to eCommerce. EDI and payment processing changed the world. The breakup of AT&T coupled with standard network protocols, from modem signaling to Ethernet and TCP/IP.
Now new standards are needed to move the world forward, from blockchain, to machine learning, to standardization of eCommerce data and social media integration.
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Interesting article today on The Street about so called “self-made billionaires” and oligopolies that control everything connected to everyday life nowadays:
Elon Musk Agrees With an Old Enemy on Growing Problem
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-agrees-with-an-old-enemy-on-growing-problem
Hi Bob, please write something about ChatGPT. Thanks, Thomas
Who cares what Elon Musk has to say? I don’t. The man is an utter lunatic and reckless asshole providing cover for the far right and authoritarian dictators. He’s a nasty person. A sexist. A bully. A fraud.
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As for Robert Reich he’s an overrated parrot packaging things lots of other people have said before him.
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I would have though people would more easily spot this reputation washing both-sideism clickbait propaganda but no.
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I also couldn’t give a shit about ChatGPT. It’s garbage.
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such strong feelings for Elons business,your just jelous because hes a socialist and your a tory bag hag
OOOHHHHH
Dude, your pathetic jealousy is so transparent.
Elon lives rent free in your head – even though he does not know who you are (and would not care to waste time meeting you).
Trash talk is a goof.
Musk wants to run as President??
Hey Elon rocket up your moon ! its Trump
You must think were really stupid or something,go check the betting oDDs.
Weapons are stolen every month from Israel Military bases …whats new ?!
we dont support Bidens Kraut or Zelensky
DEEP HOLE “No special prosecutor for the Hunter Biden Laptop”
Wikifreaks like millions of others have resigned ourselves to the fact that Biden must go !….thats it and the only way is for the Republicans to accept that the way forward is with Trump to win in the next election.
Everything else is of ne consequence…….
The tell tail sign that prosecutor jack Smith will instruct Merrick Garland to prosecute Trump criminally arises from the fact that his “shitmen” have been removed from their positions of employment since being hired.
Smith is a conspirator who hides in the Netherlands a contrived espionage agent and a traitor to the real United States of America, a person accused of attempting to alter American Political history.The Republicans must act swiftly as a party to prevent another Democratic rodeo from proceeding..
Alex Bones
My Gorgeous readers how are you all today> I was recently asked by one of my readers to provide the most British shit video of all time an occultist quaint far away mind blowing video you could imagine ,so Great and so BRITISH a video YOU WILL NEVER FORGET well here it is my gigt
THE REAL QUEENS OF ENGLAD TALKING ABOUT DEEP HOLE (BIDEN) RIPPING INFRONT OF BRITISH MONARCHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWk4Wqy8ezc
The Candyman just got himself heisted !!!!
You know Naval Seals and drug importation go back donkeys years if I was Ronny “the candyman” id stay at home and stick to fairy tales and writing story books…we know where your at kid!
The problem we have is simple DEEP HOLE is a fascistic ordereire unlike mr Trump an egoistic individual and a real fine cat robber…..its not in the hands of the people lest there aint too much they can do other than persuade the Republican party to get Trump back in….too much Pentagon Green back has disappeared into the Ukraine abyss Biden talks it and smells of it
The “Candyman” Heist
We speak our minds thanking I Cringely for free trahtalk!
You know nobody like NO ONE calls Trump a shmuck,line nobody EVER but see this fella deSantis ,we tell this dim just before he goes on stage to go on home and chew on it…..whats he go and do he slamz da fedz
WTF!!
if youve seen his racist Russisch spy hags files ………
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/31674166-meet-christina-pushaw-rhonda-santis-racist-hag-faced-spokesperson-and-fixer
Meet Christina Pushaw – Rhonda Santis’ Racist, Hag-faced Spokesperson and Fixer
Yes, I know what you’re thinking. She looks so wholesome and normal. But behind this boiled-and-Botoxed face lies a razor-sharp political mind with some very devious friendships.
Growing up in Malibu prosperity, Pushaw dove into international relations in college. And after graduating, she relocated to sunny Tbilisi, Georgia, for two years. She speaks passable Russian and Georgian. She lobbied to and for the Georgian government, and served as a sort of backchannel between American Republicans and Georgia’s rocky, semi-democratic system. She was paid handsomely for these lobbying efforts, per the Washington Post.
DeSantis press secretary registers as a foreign agent following DOJ letter
Christina Pushaw, the press secretary for Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis who’s known for bashing reporters on Twitter, voluntarily registered as a foreign agent this week after being contacted by the Department of Justice.
First reported by the Washington Post, Pushaw disclosed her work for former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili from 2018 to 2020.
Christina Pushaw studied in Moscow in 2011 …….and she really is…..so dont bother or we will pursue…chew on it schmuck it worx 2 ways !!!!
W.W.V
I am interested in this information.
Some say Cringely’s blog will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
It’s a shame. I was really looking forward to that Mineserver update.
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By my calculation, the Mineserver update should be next. Please just say it is over. Do you still have the Mineserver shirts to send out? It was a cool logo. That would be something to put an end to it.
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Hey trashtalk, do you still read the comments here? I read something the other day which reminded me of you, and I wanted to ask your opinion on it if that’s all right. The annual World Economic Forum is happening right now in Davos, and the event attracts a lot of high-end, highly-paid escorts. What’s interesting is an interview I saw with one escort who said that the people who visit the forum at Davos are essentially incapable of normal, vanilla sex: There has to be some element of power in it for them. That in itself might not be surprising (the world’s most powerful politicians and businesspeople like power play in their sex… go figure), but what really made be think was a comment along the lines of “These people are just as likely to pay to be humiliated and abused by someone as they are to pay to humiliate and abuse someone”. Why is it that people equally enjoy hurting other people or being hurt by other people, but just regular sex is boring and has no appeal to them? Do you have any insights into the psyche of a person like that? Thanks in advance, hope you’re doing well.
I am selective in the kinds of clients I wish to attract. In other words no reckless idiots with mental health or control issues.
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While the Davos thing could be true and sounds very plausible I have a suspicion it’s only one story. I would also say some people watch too much of the wrong type of porn if that’s their thing, or the escorts selling services of the kind described are attention seekers hoping they can persuade a lot of potential clients this is the thing successful men want so you should too. Before that it was clients with too big a coke habit, or executives playing cute with their company credit cards while abroad, or diplomats playing loose with the hospitality expense account. Next time around it will be some other type of client who gets themselves in hot water.
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I can’t really add anything you can’t already read in a book somewhere although meeting some of the more psychologically flawed men is an experience very few books manage to convey adequately.
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Some wealthy and powerful men, according to my sources, are really just fairly normal in their needs and wants.
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One thing I do know for sure is, ahah, well… Men just can’t help giving me money because they want to fuck me. It does add a certain halo to proceedings I’ll give it that.
Twitter and Meta have both experienced layoffs due to the slowdown in demand for fast speed VPN services. In response to the changing market, both companies have shifted their focus away from providing fast speed VPN services and are focusing on other areas. These layoffs are unfortunate, but the companies are doing the best they can to adjust to the realities of the market.
Quote: “Twitter and Meta have both experienced layoffs due to the slowdown in demand for fast speed VPN services.”
Wow, someone needs to reprogram their spambot!
Bob does not want to do it any more so somebody else is trying to predict the future :
Robot taxis? Hyperloops? A top technologist wages war on tech’s hype machine
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/robot-taxis-hyperloops-a-top-technologist-wages-war-on-techs-hype-machine/ar-AA16yDyA
EditorDavid – Bob’s buddy can not post Bob’s prediction any more so he posted review of this article on slashdot.org :
hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/01/22/0544231/rodney-brooks-reviews-5-year-old-predictions-makes-new-ones-on-crypto-metaverse-robots-ai
Rodney Brooks Reviews 5-Year-Old Predictions, Makes New Ones on Crypto, Metaverse, Robots, AI
https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/01/22/0544231/rodney-brooks-reviews-5-year-old-predictions-makes-new-ones-on-crypto-metaverse-robots-ai
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This blog does a great job of discussing the layoffs at Meta and Twitter, and how Elon Musk’s comments can be interpreted in the context. It’s an insightful look into the current state of the tech industry and how it affects the people employed in it. Thank you for providing such an interesting and informative read.
I just realized something. Bob (well, Mark, but let’s call him by his preferred pronouns) turned 70 a week ago. Happy belated 70th birthday, Bob. Looking forward to 70 more years of your columns. 🙂
Happy Birthday, Bob! 70 is a big one. Time certainly flies!
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Another 70? Seems unlikely. Feels like this column is winding down, to be honest.
Well, that did not age well.
At the time, Elon’s tweets over the year had implied that he had no idea what he was doing. And since then, well, he’s proven it.
The big change is that the moderation system is inactive, which gives us a sense of powerlessness.
Changes have been to the benefit of him, or the company, the product is much the same. And with that skeletom crew, he’s unlikely to have the capacity for design change.
The worst change is the paid priority, where self-importance trumps good content, the algorithmic anthesis of, say, tiktok’s highly addictive, highly attuned algorithm.
“I’m not sure it really matters much.”
Nor do I.
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It reminds me of a poem about the Bay Area written long before the first computer was even created:
“Dust always blowing about the town,
Except when sea-fog laid it down,
And I was one of the children told
Some of the blowing dust was gold.
All the dust the wind blew high
Appeared like gold in the sunset sky,
But I was one of the children told
Some of the dust was really gold.
Such was life in the Golden Gate:
Gold dusted all we drank and ate,
And I was one of the children told,
‘We all must eat our peck of gold.’”
— Robert Frost