Thirty-nine years ago this past summer, I was working in a dingy cubicle in a K Street office building in Washington, DC when the man with white belt and shoes walked by. I was working as an investigator for the President’s Commission on the Accident at Three Mile Island and the man with white belt and shoes was a security consultant hired by the Commission to deal with a series of news leaks about our work. As a result, this consultant was overseeing the installation of an expensive video surveillance system, showing it off at that moment to the chief administrator for the Commission.
“Who do we think will try to break-in?” asked the administrator.
“Why the Washington Post of course,” replied the man with white belt and shoes.
I laughed out loud and the two men stared at me.
I have been a professional journalist now for 50 years and even 39 years ago I knew that the Washington Post could (and did) get any information it needed about our (confidential but unclassified) work by just staying until closing time at the local bar. No break-ins required, only alcohol.
There is a lot about the press that normal people don’t get, as this anecdote illustrates.
The fact is that press conspiracies are so rare that I’ve never actually heard of a real one. There’s too much competition for any two news organizations to conspire about anything. They’d rather kill each other.
So I am going to take a momentary break from writing about technology here to explain a very small aspect of what is going on right now with press coverage of President Trump. Specifically, I think the wrong questions are being asked about last week’s anonymous Op-Ed essay in the New York Times.
Had I been the opinion editor at the Times I would not have run the column without a byline. I’m sure they tried and tried to do it another way, but the obvious prospect that the column might have appeared, instead, in the Washington Post no-doubt bumped the Times editor straight into ethically ambiguous town. It’s all about competition, remember?
While the opinion section of the Times claims to know who Anonymous is, everyone else is trying to find out that writer’s identity. That’s the big question. And as White House staffer after cabinet secretary denies authorship, the list of suspects gets shorter and shorter.
But this is the wrong question.
It doesn’t really matter who wrote the essay. My personal opinion is that it had more than one author. Nobody is looking for two, three or more writers, yet that’s how nearly every piece of writing emerges from any White House. They are all collaborative works. Why should this essay be any different?
Multiple writers would allow each participant to deny being the author. And in a Bill Clintonesque sense they’d be correct. None of them are the writer.
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.” But what, in this instance, constituted sexual relations? It’s slimy, I know.
The question that isn’t being asked, the question that is by far more important than anything I’ve read in the current discussion, is why did he/she/they write the column at all? What was their goal? What did they expect to happen as a result?
Was it to draw attention away from Bob Woodward’s new book? In a bizarre Trumpian way that almost makes sense, since every time there is negative news about the President he seems to successfully counter-balance it by tweeting something stupid about a supposed enemy. This guy insults himself out of trouble, which is certainly unique in American political history.
That’s the pro-Trump explanation, which is admittedly thin but crazier things have happened in this administration (look at the Mooch).
The obvious anti-Trump reasons for this Op-Ed are ostensibly to hurt the President’s image or at least to tell the public something they didn’t already know. But this is the President who boasted he could shoot and kill someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and get away with it. And he probably could. There’s no way this essay really hurts Trump with the public any more than he was already damaged. If pussy-grabbing didn’t take him down, this essay won’t, either. There are no minds really available for changing on ether side of this President: his supporters will continue to support and everyone else will continue to not support. Those lines were hardened long ago.
Given Trump’s vindictive nature and long memory, I can’t believe the motivation for this column was simply to taunt the President, either. Eventually the truth will out and — if he’s still in office — Trump will be savage in his response. It won’t be pretty.
My opinion why this anonymous column was written is simple: it was intended solely for an audience of one. The only reader the writer or writers cared about was Donald Trump. And the reaction the writer or writers seek is to drive the President over some edge. They seek to drive Trump into a response so severe that it ends his Presidency.
The column, itself, is the intended headshot. The writers want to drive the Trump insane.
And while it didn’t immediately seem to work, the days are early. This is a journalistic worm that will eat away at Trump for weeks or months. We have yet to see his real reaction, which may not come until after the mid-term elections, though I think that might be stretching it.
There are lots of hints in the piece, itself. They write several times about the end of Trump’s Presidency, never outright describing it but obviously predicting it and suggesting they’ll be around until the end (as “adults in the room”) just to make sure this kind of Presidency doesn’t happen again.
“Until his Presidency is over” is a peculiar expression, but that’s the author or authors’ clear goal — the end of this Presidency. And since they never allude to that end being at the ballot box, the implied result is that Trump will leave for some other reason, which most of the old Washington hands I still know say won’t be impeachment.
A deal-maker to the end, Trump will do something monumentally self-destructive then negotiate the first-ever Presidential golden parachute, finally Making America Great Again.
There’s a less conspiratorial reason for this opinion piece to exist: Self-justification and self-protection. It’s a pre-emptive attempt at claiming to not be a collaborator. It’s an attempt to preserve a career that might otherwise be reduced to a cinder once all this is over.
Someone asked about the Mineserver on your previous post, which was promised by you 2 weeks ago, so makes sense you’d post another article to cover that up and move the conversation along. What sort of weird calendar do you even use? Like seriously!! This went from curious, to comical, to sad…
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Robert X. Cringely August 31, 2018 at 9:36 am – Reply
“We’ll have a Mineserver report here next week.”
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I mean this in all seriousness, but get your s**t together, Bob. You’re making a fool of yourself here!
Meh. I suspect the whole piece was written by one or more NYT low-level staffers. Trump has demonstrated that he is a past-master at making the legacy (lamestream) media go full tabloid-mode just by deliberately misspelling a word in a tweet.
Trump as Commander Queeg. I like it.
Promise a Mineserver article and deliver a political opinion instead? Trump would be proud of you.
“We’ll have a Mineserver report here next week.
It all depends how you define the word ‘report’.
report, n.
A sudden loud noise like gunfire
You see, Bob was really referring to the loud noise of all the complaints about Mineserver. Please note that he said “We’ll have a report”, not “I will write a report”. And no, he did not have relations with that report.
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I’d venture to say that the better question is, “What did it accomplish?”
Did it change anyone’s mind of the side of the Trump supporters? No, of course not.
Did it expose anything new that those who revile him? Again, of course not.
What it DID accomplish is to reinforce Trump’s conspiracy theory of the “Deep State” and push his cult followers to even higher levels of craziness.and belief. And you have to wonder if that was the intention or not.
In any event, the NYT should never have published it without a byline. Would have been better to not publish it at all as the unintended fallout is to further cement the mentality of his followers and make them even more likely to come out in droves to support his team in the midterms.
Well Bob, I think you’ve pretty much nailed it with a good explanation of the background – it’s an attempt to push him over the edge … Now all have to wait for is a midnight tweet or two when Hurricane Florence runs into the Carolinas that “The National Hurricane Center is full of very bad people and need to be abolished” – we’re only tweet away from the 25th Amendment.
There is a wide-open market niche for real journalism regarding the Trump Phenomenon. Particularly given the censorship by network effect giants, this should be very inviting to the old guard Silicon Valley journalists like Cringely, now long-excluded by its new Asian court toadies. Scott Adams’s oblique approach, reporting on Trump’s “persuasion”, has barely touched that niche and, yet, has netted him a following, including book sales, substantial enough to launch his own cryptocurrency with app, thereby replacing his speaking business, lost to his transgression of elite norms.
No one took this op-ed seriously until Trump and the White House responded so forcefully.
To hear Vice President Pence and other high ranking government officials publicly deny being the writer gave the op-ed total credibility.
To be clear you are saying that everyone who voted for him are in effect mental patients? If so you should reevaluate your thinking realize you are living in a bubble of like-minded people who think they know what is best for everyone, which is exactly what got us where we are now. According to my brother-in-law NY and CA should decide the election for the entire country since people from those areas are better informed than the rest of the country.
Cringely, I love you but you do NOT understand us TRUMPISTS! We are very tired of the ‘establishment’ the folks that poop on us! We want free trade and welcome immigrants that want a better life in the USA. WE DO NOT want folks that refuse the values that make us better than ok. Why would ANYONE want to come to the USA and not be than better than what they were? I would HOPE they would want better and IF they DON’T want BETTER, Why should we welcome them? If they don’t value the possible life in the USA, LET THEM
STAY WERE THEY ARE!. Wake up Cringley! Welcome to our the USA and welcome to who THOSE WHO WANT what what we in the USA HAVE
IF YOU WANT TO BE WHO YOU WERE STAY WERE YOU WERE!!
After Trump is “gone”, hold your breath, the next thing we’ll have to deal with is a guy who believes Adam and Eve were real, snakes can talk, the craters in the moon were cause by the Great Flood and planet earth is only 5000yo. There’s worse than crazy, there’s crazy on a Mission from God.
Jon, (assuming you’re not joking here) you didn’t have to elect a senile old mobster for that. There were already plenty xenophobes available in the GOP.
The obvious explanation is someone is stoking his paranoia and cause him to fire one of his few trusted lieutenants left to isolate him further.
I get all my Trump news from Scott Adams, yes, the Dilbert Guy.
http://blog.dilbert.com/2018/09/07/episode-211-scott-adams-white-house-moles-spartacus-and-prison/
He also posts daily, just saying Bob. It is a media hungry world these days.
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Yes, on Friday, 8/31/2018, Crookely wrote “We’ll have a Mineserver report here next week.” and, yes, that was over a week ago. However…
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Suppose, in Crookely’s world, _today_ is always the start of a week. (That is, a one-week period starts anew each day.) In that case, _next week_ would have started last Friday, 9/7 giving him until this Thursday to meet his self-imposed schedule.
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Of course, no one in their right mind thinks that way but, then again, this is Crookely.
Oh Roger, Don’t you know yet that you’re just being played? Bob’s playing you like a cheap piano and you’re continuing to fall for it. He’s gotta be laughing his arse off watching you dance to his tune. But do continue on, for you are now the entertainment. . .
I can’t quite fathom the motives either. The piece states that people within the Whitehouse are deliberately dragging their feet on implementing orders, and stealing papers from Trump’s desk (which he subsequently forgets about), to stop him signing them.
Surely that has now let the cat out of the bag, and he’ll be alerted to these things now. Seems a rather counter-productive thing to do in that case. Would it not have been better to keep quiet?
I read the item and thought it did not really ring true. Just the words used did not fit the weasel-words way of speaking used by bureaucrats. My eventual conclusion was that it was something done by the Trump side for some reason, perhaps to get him even more attention, perhaps to stir up his supporters, perhaps for other purposes.
My comment was rejected.
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Your rejection was commented…
I’m convinced that at some point trump is going to tweet-storm something along the lines of “yes, so I stole the presidency with help from my friend Vlad, big deal , loser dems are only jelus they didn’t do it first!SAD. I have all the best friends!”
Maybe the op-ed *was* part of pushing him further over the edge.
About Mineserver, there are some things in life that defy us (or at least me) in terms of timing. I’ve been waiting to resurrect the Mineserver project until I could afford to do so. We lost everything in last year’s fire including 400+ Mineserver boards and other parts. They turned out to be not covered by insurance. When you argue with Allstate, Allstate generally wins. I was blind at the time and could not work. Now I can see, so things are somewhat better. A startup I’ve been advising for several years was recently sold and I hoped my shares were worth enough to restart the Mineserver project. They may well be, but as a minor player in a bigger deal I still have no idea what my 21,229 shares will bring. They said I would know last week and now this week. Prick an investment banker and all you’ll find inside is money and hot air. Once that money is in hand a great deal of it will go to the Mineserver project, much to the chagrin of my wife, who can think of better uses, like buying a car to replace our 2007 Honda minivan that burned. But this is a priority. When the money is in hand new boards and cases will be ordered, software will be upgraded, we’ll write a new manual and start shipping. If the money turns out to not be enough, I don’t know what we’ll do. But this is the best idea I could come up with.
How would you have handled it?
@crookley … boo-fucking-hoo. You’ve benn making these promises for over 2 years 7 NEVER delivering.
Do the right thing, post the fact you’ve utterly failed & taken people money on the kickstarter web-site
kill the fucking thing dead !
@Bob: Everyone would have handled it differently, but if I might chime in with my opinion, I think the best thing to do would have been to just come clean long ago and explain what happened. Others have written here many times that what really upsets them is not so much that they haven’t gotten their Mineservers yet, but rather that there’s been no communication about what happened and why. I recall in the past that you mentioned this may have been due to investors, i.e. you didn’t want to scare away potential investors by going public with what is essentially (from an investment perspective) a total loss, but I think the loss of goodwill is probably worth more than the financial loss at this point. Bile aside, I think that “BullShit Detector” above me has a point: It might have been best to just go public with the honest truth that all the project’s capital has literally burned up and there’s nothing left, meaning that to realize the project now would mean starting from zero. It would be a bitter pill to swallow, but as other people have pointed out, Kickstarter is always a gamble, and sometimes Kickstarter projects fail. Yes it’s a shame and it’s not something easy to admit publicly, but again, the losses in terms of trust from your readers and investors is probably incalculably higher than whatever value you hoped to retain by withholding this information. Just come out with the truth. No one can blame you for saying the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Another slant to consider is that Trump was elected, because he sells papers and gets eyeballs on screens and clicks on links. It probably wasn’t a formal conspiracy, but news knows what causes people to click and to comment. Trump has been a godsend to media, because he can be outrageous, and outrageous sells.
@Bob Just kill the project, no one cares anymore. Don’t make yourself out to be a martyr when you’re not. As others have said, the issue was always your lack of communication and your proved it here once again in this microcosm. You want to know what *I* (and most others) would have done differently?
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When your shares didn’t come through: You do a quick update post a week later.
Or dial it back a step, when you say you will tell us a week later: Tell us it is because you are waiting for your shares.
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You seriously just don’t get it. The kickstarter is dead, so just kill it. No one is going to praise you for trying to revive it. You don’t always get your product via KickStarter, and you know what? That’s okay. The real failure in all of this was all of the people who lost faith in you and that was 100% in your control no matter what happened in your life. You’re just too dense to realize it despite everyone shouting it directly at you. So let’s all just move on and you can even make your wife happy and save some money in the process…
Everyone should subscribe to Hulu and start watching “The Handmaid’s Tale.” I imagine VP Mike gets a real woody over that scenario.
AFA Trump is concerned, I believe Putin has him (somehow) in his back pocket. What he does for the most part is under orders from the Kremlin. Putin revels in the USA being made impotent around the globe by Trump’s actions. Trump’s tax cut will eventually lead to greater inflation followed by a recession that will make Bush’s recession look like chump change. And remember the feds borrowed heavily to jump start the economy and save the banking industry. Trump and his henchmen are borrowing heavily during good times. There will be nothing left to jump start us in the next.
Comrade Don is just another Russian stooge. Watch and see.
I will now remove my aluminum foil hat…
@Bob, with respect, I disagree with your conclusion.
Here’s how my math works: the intermediary knows the author’s identity, so do members of the NYT’s staff, along with the author him/herself and likely some others we don’t know about. The author’s identity will leak because everything does. When it does, the author will be fired or will have to resign in disgrace. Very likely the intermediary will too, probably other folks loyal to the author (staff/reports). Writing the op-ed pissed off everyone loyal to Trump; writing it anonymously pissed off everyone else. Once the author is identified, the rage they’ll face from every politician and news outlet will be monumental. There will be congressional investigations to determine exactly how the author has been sabotaging Trump, along with who knew what when. As far as future prospects are concerned, the author will certainly be radioactive for a long time and may end up in jail. Why would a senior person take this risk? Just to piss off Trump? There are easier (and safer) ways for senior people to do that. If the author truly believes Trump is undisciplined and unpredictable, he/she would know better than to publicly poke him in the eye and expect a specific result. Deliberately destabilizing Trump contradicts the author’s claim of selfless service to the republic.
I think the goal of the op-ed was very specific, targeted at the author’s peers. It was meant to signal others who feel the same way and encourage them to signal back, like painting a resistance symbol on a wall and watching to see if more appear elsewhere. Further, I think the conspicuous use of “lodestar” was deliberate. The specific people targeted by this op-ed? The Cabinet. The mention of the 25th amendment was not casual — the author is a member of the cabinet who wants to invoke 25. They don’t dare try to rally support without being certain the support is there, so they publish anonymously to start quiet back-channel conversations. I think the author is counting on those conversations bearing fruit before their identity leaks, allowing them to play the hero instead of the villain.
The NYT published this anonymously, even knowing the ethical issues you point out. They wouldn’t do that for a deputy or a senior assistant; the author must be very highly placed. I see two possibilities. First is a cabinet secretary but not one of the big names. The Secretary of Government Intrusion, perhaps. You may be right about multiple authors — it would increase the risk of leaking but reduce the risk of starting with zero support. That would be a huge gamble though, because removal under the 25th requires the Vice President’s vote. The cabinet can vote unanimously to remove but without the VP it means nothing — everyone just ends up fired and disgraced. Under this theory, “lodestar” is a trigger for the press to hound the VP, forcing him to respond when he otherwise might not. The author parses his responses to judge whether he’s on board. However, since the op-ed doesn’t make a persuasive argument for the VP to overthrow his boss, it doesn’t feel like a good way to take his temperature.
Second possibility: Democrats look very likely to win control of the House and pollsters are cautiously opining the Senate may be in play. Even without Senate control, impeachment in the House is probable, followed by either a Senate trial or a Senate snub; either ending would do tremendous damage to the nation. Mike Pence wants to be president so badly he can practically taste it. Could he use the 25th to “rescue” us and become Healer-in-Chief? It’d take careful timing and some crafty messaging, but… yes, he could. Under this theory, “lodestar” is the byline.
The whole thing points to someone (just) outside Mike Pence’s office writing the op-ed at his direction and contacting the NYT in his name. Perfectly deniable.
Likely Russian Troll named ‘Jim’:
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“To be clear you are saying that everyone who voted for him are in effect mental patients?”
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Only if we all now agree that racism is a mental illness. https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/13/15768622/facebook-google-racism-social-media-seth-everybody-lies
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“According to my brother-in-law NY and CA should decide the election…”
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Russian troll says what?
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Try Harder, Jason
@Doug- Agreed. Scott Adams is a great spokesmodel for Trump.
“I’ve been waiting to resurrect the Mineserver project until I could afford to do so. We lost everything in last year’s fire including 400+ Mineserver boards and other parts. ”
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“…much to the chagrin of my wife, who can think of better uses, like buying a car to replace our 2007 Honda minivan that burned.”
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Bob, I’ll be honest. No one (well, very few) really cares about the Mineserver itself or the money.
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Experienced Kickstarter backers know that every project carries a risk of failure and they accept that. I’ve backed over 150 projects that were funded; a number of them produced nothing. The amount I pledged for the Mineserver is certainly not the biggest loss I’ve suffered on Kickstarter, nor is it (nor will it be) the last.
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The folks that backed the project after reading about it here likely chipped in because they are your fans and supporters, not because they really wanted a Mineserver.
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(Mind you, I can only really speak for myself.)
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So why are people so up-in-arms over this if it’s not because they want a tiny computer or their $100 back? It’s because they want answers. They want to know, to be a part of it, for better or worse.
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My wife and I began watching an Australian detective show called Doctor Blake. The first three seasons were available on Netflix (or some such service.) We got to the end of what was available and, of course, were left with a huge cliffhanger. So, after a wee bit of going crazy, my wife demanded that we pay for the next two seasons. I suspect the same will soon happen with The Blacklist.
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Like my wife, your backers want to know how it ends. They want the next season. But the vast majority have been left hanging with *zero* news for nearly two years. Yes, you’ve occasionally posted here, but most of the Kickstarter backers don’t visit this site; they’re waiting over at kickstarter.com where updates are supposed to occur.
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Trust me, you (and your readers) should probably be glad that most of your backers never made it here. Some of us, however… well, as they say, if the Mineservers won’t come to Mohammed, Mohammad must come to the Mineservers.
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Again, the issue is not that the project didn’t succeed, it’s that there has been no communication for nearly two years (and very little before that, I might add.) What makes it worse is that you claim to be a journalist, a writer, one who makes his living with words. How hard could it have been for you to write something up and posted as a Kickstarter update?
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Of course, the dismissive attitude you have towards your backers — as if they were entitled little brats (hint: they are) — is a whole ‘nother ball of wax, But that’s just part of your Cringely personna (I hope.)
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“If the money turns out to not be enough, I don’t know what we’ll do. But this is the best idea I could come up with.”
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“How would you have handled it?”
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As I’ve said before, I *DID* handle it quite differently. I had my life fall apart in the middle of my Kickstarter campaign (in a relatively small, very first-world way, but it was absolutely devastating to me and my family at the time) and yet, I communicated with my backers and when I missed deadlines or had other issues I told them, cap in hand, with apologies. Fortunately, Kickstarter backers tend to be an understanding lot and they accepted my honest and sincere mea culpas and I eventually delivered. But the key is not that last bit about delivering rewards, it’s the part about being honest and open and including my backers in what was going on in terms of the project.
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Yes, shtuff happened. Yes, it sucks. But you had a responsibility to your backers to keep them in the loop, to avoid leaving them hanging, waiting, wondering what was happening. Sure, when you’re running for your life from a major fire, you don’t stop to post about it. But in a week, or two, or whatever, you borrow someone’s cellphone or visit an internet cafe or whatever and let people know what’s going on or, at the very least, that something *is* going on. And if you’re blind, well, having been there, I know that sucks. But you’ve got a wife and three kids and I’m sure any one of them could have typed up something over at Kickstarter. Especially since this was ostensibly the boys’ project anyway.
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Which reminds me, as one parent to another… saying “what do you expect; they’re just kids” is not an acceptable answer. You’re the parent. Either you make sure they fulfill their obligations or you do it for them.
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So, tl;dr: It’s not about Mineservers or money, it’s about respect and communication. You’ve not shown your backers the former so they have none for you.
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P.S., I forgot to mention this, but your wife is right.
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Spend the money on a new Minivan. Whatever your kids are into, they and their friends and their soccer gear/robots/theatre costumes/camping supplies will need to be transported here and there on a constant basis.
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Trust me, I know. (I have a Toyota Sienna instead of a Land Rover 110 because I too have three kids.)
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Your family, especially your kids, are far more important than any kickstarter project. Your backers will understand this… **IF** you tell them.
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(Or better still, sell the damn fighter jet and buy a minivan AND more mineservers.)
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I suspect Bob’s opinion has already reached the “audience of one”, he’ll ignore it, while others will continue to waste their time finding out who wrote it. Maybe the Washington Post!
https://www.gofundme.com/stop-india-first
We need to see the world differently from San Francisco or Los Angeles or Boston or inside the capital Beltway. He was elected by the people and so far they have shown no inclination to chase him out. Regardless of what the polls say, the Congress is not going to issue articles of impeachment under any circumstances unless their own reelection is threatened. This president is a media expert and not a politician and knows how to frame the public debate and as you have been noticing many of his endorsed candidates are winning elections. The people have stated that this is what they wanted!
I go here to get in-depth analysis of what #dump is doing or has done:
https://www.electoral-vote.com/
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WOW! Some people are tough on you. They remind me of car drivers on the road who think they own it and will not have any consideration for anyone else on the road. Thank you for the article! Insight from someone who has been there is always best.
This website has the most entertaining comment section on the internet.
FYI, Bob, this was posted on the Kickstarter site 5 days ago:
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“I don’t want a mineserver anymore.. I don’t want my money back (this is kickstarter after all).. I don’t even want an apology.
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I just want an actual update on this site from the creator.. even if it’s “Hey, this isn’t going to happen, you can stop checking in”.. is that too much to ask for?”
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and this was posted yesterday:
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“I think the time and place for a home MineCraft server has passed. I doubt there is a market for it going forward. Why mine more money, time and effort into this one off elapsed project? Give us something beneficial. Maybe just a write up on the timeline and pitfalls of this project backer had insight to. That’s all we really wanted after the first year.“
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First of all, update the damn Kickstarter site! So maybe people over there have no idea what is going on for over 2 years.
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Secondly, save yourself the money, buy your car, and just write up what happened, what you learned, etc. and post it…ON.THE.KICKSTARTER!! Stop posting here just so you can have a flame war and drive traffic to your site. No one is happy right now. End this…NOW!
Python creator Guido van Rossum retired in July, but he’s been pulled back in to resolve a debate about politically incorrect language. The Register reports:
Like other open source communities, Python’s minders have been asked whether they really want to continue using the terms “master” and “slave” to describe technical operations and relationships, given that the words remind some people of America’s peculiar institution, a historical legacy that fires political passions to this day. Last week Victor Stinner, a Python developer who works for Red Hat, published four pull requests seeking to change “master” and “slave” in Python documentation and code to terms like “parent,” “worker,” or something similarly anodyne. “For diversity reasons, it would be nice to try to avoid ‘master’ and ‘slave’ terminology which can be associated to slavery,” he explained in his bug report, noting that there have been complaints but they’ve been filed privately — presumably to avoid being dragged into a fractious flame war. And when Python 3.8 is released, there will be fewer instances of these terms.
Speaking with some American friends I said just after Trump won that I didn’t think he’d do a full term. They thought I meant go for a second election and stay for two, but no, I meant he’d leave half way through his first term. They were surprised at that.
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I thought he’d use some excuse that he’d put everything in place for his goal of Making America Great Again and let someone else take the fall. Leaving his legacy intact. My American friends agreed. They could see that happening.
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And now we have Bob’s theory.
Not just ibm being sneaky and putting in h1b hindu fixes
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/
I’ve often thought of writing a blog of my own, but I have little to say that’s of general interest, so no one would read or follow it. Then I thought why not just hi-jack Bob’s widely read column with my own opinions, even if they’re totally unrelated to Bob’s current article or comments others have made on it Should I do that? Anyone? Bueller? Emacs?
I’ve often thought of writing a blog of my own, but I have little to say that’s of general interest, so no one would read or follow it. Then I thought why not just hi-jack Bob’s widely read column with my own opinions, even if they’re totally unrelated to Bob’s current article or comments others have made on it. Should I do that? Anyone? Bueller? Emacs?
There are these really cool google leaks and bob is not even covering it
We don’t just have a White House leak
More importantly we have a google leak
A google leak that promotes h1b Hindus even with the trump government in, that tells white workers to take their white pribelige classes
Google leak is the h1b Hindu tech leak that involves the government trump and Google’s control over the givenmrt and trump
The google leak is much more interesting
Tells you how corporations are run
So the only way to defeat a corporation now is with leaks on their h1b Hindu policy, on their anti American anti white male policy, anti American worker policy and anti customer policy
Instead of do no evil, it’s do nothing but evil, to workers and customers, must be an inside joke
Say, how about throwing a few more racist dog-whistles in there? And maybe even some punctuation while you’re at it?
Because purging Americans from the workplace and replacing them with Hindu only workers is not tacist at all, not to mention they import the Indians with false credentials and falsified credentials, which is criminal, both criminal and racist
What are you’re credentials ?
Do you work in IT ?
Do you know what’s going on ?
Do you see the mass layoffs of Americans to make way for the imported Hindu only workers ?
Gee, Emacs, are you visiting us in your time machine from the 1970s? You seem to think it’s news that Google and is progressive and liberal. Prepare for a shock. So is 90% of the IT industry.
Racism, xenophobia, scare-mongering… and gullibility… never grow old, do they?
But you missed a trick. You forgot to include misogyny and sexism in your rant. Perhaps your memory is starting to slip. I’ll help you out. “Along with all them godless Hindoos, there is female wimmin and transsexual faags taking jobs from good red-blooded all-American white men.” Will that do?
Since when is it politically correct to give yourself the right to import the poorest people from the poorest continent, the last time you did this it was called slavery, now you’re repeating the same slave trading colonial ways, but this time not only are you hurting all Americans including immigrants as you are hurting the imported Hindus and outsourced Hindus
Pretending you’re somehow helping Americans or Hindus when you are really exploiting them with a modern form of slavery is really not on
Since when are democrats pro slavery and pro explytauon instead of pro labour ?
Since when is exporting brown people progressive ? Being anti slavery by your logic is being xenophobic and racist, what twisted logic
How do you pass off explytation off of brown Hindus as a good thing?
How do u pass a country like America made up of brown people to exploit and a white elite as some type of progressive positive thing instead of modern slavery
Do you really believe all that garbage ?
At least half the country who voted for trump don’t, they voted for s better economy, infortunstely trump will just do the sa progressive slaving policies u speak of
Don’t u realise it’s the elites against the middle class nothing to do with race? Or xenophobia
Slavery is just a way to put workers down, race is a side affect
@GreenWyvern: I’ve been ignoring Emacs’ rants up until now since I don’t think anyone is taking him/her seriously, but your brand of dogma is much more dangerous because there are people who actually believe in it, so please forgive me if I proceed to disagree with your particular choice of alternative truths.
First of all, I’m going to go ahead and say “citation needed” for your claim that 90% of the IT industry is “progressive and liberal.” That’s a hefty claim to make without any evidence. Do you have some substance to back up your claims? And what is “90% of the IT industry”? Do you mean just the executives at the top of those companies (who may indeed be liberal, since what Americans now call “liberalism” is good for big business), or do you mean that 90% of all people who work in the entire IT industry are politically liberal, which is a claim sufficientliy implausible that I don’t think even Trump would try to get anyone to believe it?
Secondly, what is “progressive”, exactly? Usually when I see people saying that something is “progressive”, what they really mean is “it benefits my own personal political agenda.” If you have a political agenda, that’s very good for you, but you shouldn’t expect anyone else to prop up your political ideals just because in your own mind, your vision for humanity is your idea of “progress”. If you can clearly state what your goals are and why other people should buy into them, you may be able to convince other people, but I don’t really feel in a mood to tolerate your arrogant put-downs of people who don’t share your political views just because you happen to be able to write more clearly than them.
Cringely himself has written about h1b Hindus,,ibm etc
My friends in industry see this all the time
The Disney workers that got replaced by Hindus was a high profile case
You can google this stuff, I can give you references
But the media does not report it
Even trump used the Disney case as a high profile case
You’re welcome to be ignorant and believe the corporate propaganda that Americans are too stupid to work and need to import Hindus
Corporations and media are not going to spoon feed you what’s going on, neither am I, cringely has written about it, you can look up his articles
U can replace every American with as many Hindus as u like, as a European I can leave, good luck with your new slave trading Hindu country
American corps go to Davos say they have a right to Hindu workers, this is well documented with videos bill gates etc, u have to be living under a rock to not know, but it’s not spoon fed to you
Here is a simple article that shows your ignorance, and just says what I say
That corporations want to import Hindus to replace Americans
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/14/dont_give_silicon_valley_more_h1b_visas_132795.html
This is just one article, there are many most claim we need more Hindus to replace Americans,
Huge amounts of money to import Hindus is used to defend this position, it’s not Devine intervention, it’s monied interests, big money,biggly as trump says
I’ve been saying exactly the same thing as Bob. Not a person — a consortium. Here’s their Twitter address:
https://twitter.com/RoguePOTUSStaff
and their website:
http://www.potusstaff.com
Oh, and they’ve got a book for sale, too. “How To Clandestinely Save Democracy” or some such title.
There is an alt google too
One that does not want to import Hindus to replace Americans
@Emacs I never understood why Grammarly existed until I read Emacs post. Oh my goodness, sir/madam, you need to proofread before you post:
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* explytauon? Oh wait, you tried again and got closer with…explytation. /facepalm
* infortunstely?
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You may also want to stop using “u” in place of “you”. This isn’t a text message between high schoolers (or maybe it is and this comment section has devolved more than I realized). People are likely to take your claims more seriously if you sound like you take yourself seriously. Just some constructive feedback from one poster to another.
Well I’m typing on a phone
I’m the one doing the spoon feeding for people too lazy to look up what is going on in IT
Astroturfing is attacking the person to defend the corporate propaganda instead of looking at the issues
Look it up astroturfing on ted talks may show u how propaganda works
Mobile device is too slow to type properly
I’m the one poon feeding u the information, like u can’t use google to lookup google leaks and h1b Hindus
@Emacs You most certainly will NOT poon feed me! You monster! Take your filthy language elsewhere! >:O
@Emacs
I was wondering why you keep calling Indians ‘Hindus’.
At first I thought it must be some Christian fundamentalist religious prejudice you have. (“Them darkies isn’t even Christians.”) Then I thought perhaps you’re simply ignorant of the fact that there are also Muslims, Christians (3rd largest group). Sikhs, Buddhists, etc. in India, so you think the religion is equal to the nationality.
Then it struck me. No doubt for you “Injuns = Redskins”, so the people of India must be ‘Hindus’. ROFL!
You can’t really expect anyone to discuss H1B visas seriously with you when you come across as a complete idiot.
@GreenWyvern Amen. Wake up Emacs! Don’t generalize a people with your stereotypes and prejudice. Or do, but your argument is not taken seriously by anyone after you spew such ignorance.
@Mark – And, of course it should go without say, Mark WASN’T an “investigator” on the TMI committee. He was in their PR department. Maybe that is where he worked on his fake PhD.
This is from the official report:
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Public’s Right to Information Task Force
David M. Rubin, Head
Holly A. Chaapel
Ann Marie Cunningham
Nadyne G. Edison
Mary Beth Franklin
Sharon M. Friedman
Wilma I. Hill
Nancy C. Joyce
Mary Paden
Roy S. Popkin
Peter M. Sandman
Mark C. Stephens
Mitchell Stephens
Patricia E. Weil
Emily Wells
Good Lord, Bob should not be allowed anywhere NEAR public relations, let alone have a position in the department. He needs all of the PR help he can get right now, as his popularity has been tanking considerably over the past x years and is showing no signs of slowing down…
I’m not quite sure you’re using PR to mean the same thing as listed in the article. Public’s Right to Information Task Force Public Relations.
Apparently the programming not equals was erased so my comment above makes no sense. I’ll try the other version of not equals:
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Public’s Right to Information Task Force != Public Relations.
All right. I went back and picked through past articles, one by one. The last Cringely piece I’d consider somewhat “useful” or “interesting” was 2016… Nov 2016 (IoT/Post-Decision-Age), or, if discounting those, Sept 2016 (Watson-AI/Carrie-Underwood). Nearly everything else from that same period, and thereafter, is “nostalgia about my old ABC” or “such-and-such tragedy has befallen my life, health, friends,” punctuated by “intangible yearly predictions with retroactive-spin” and “constant-IBM-doom-and-gloom-which-mysteriously-stopped-perhaps-due-to-lawyer-involvement.”
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That’s 2+ yrs of hollow cruft, buoyed by Roger + trashtalk-prostitute levity. Time to cut bait. All the best.
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Mineserver, Thanks for the Three Mile Island PDF.
We all know that Bob was personally appointed by the President as a Special Investigator for Three Mile Island because he was a Professor at Stanford.
In a year or two, I hope he’ll tell us the story of how he single-handedly prevented a full meltdown, and the whole reactor sinking to the earth’s core… as he so accurately predicted last year Fukushima would do.
You can’t say that Bob’s articles aren’t entertaining, and the comments even more so. 🙂
Diversity campaign
This is how Hindu Labour is promoted as well
https://m.youtube.com/watch?frags=pl%2Cwn&v=51znByKA4MY
Okay, @emacs… here’s the lowdown. Companies don’t want to hire you because they don’t want hateful, toxic, racist pricks working for them. They’d rather have a pleasant, polite, hard-working immigrant than an entitled, spoiled brat who thinks they deserve everything. So just shut up already.
Hey Bob, thanks for asking how I would have handled it.
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I am not a Minecraft buyer, so I’m going to have to try a trick of empathy here.
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I would not have insulted them as whining crybabies on a “jihad” who had gotten quite enough updates as it is.
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Can I get some shares now for telling you what any sensible fucking human being would have done?
Corporations rather have brown Hindus as slaves and call any opposition to slavery / apartheid racist
It’s all about exploitation of labour and wages, nothing to do with race, unless it leads to exploitation
Accusations of racism are a cover for bussing hjmdus in the same way they bused blacks in
Not just any immigrant, Hindus, that way they don’t have to waste money on branding and they know who to hire and who not to hire
You’re name calling and intimidation tactics can’t hide and cover the truth and motives
Abolish Hindu slavery and I will shut up
Black slavery was not enoug
https://qz.com/india/1010965/a-former-executive-is-accusing-infosys-of-racism-that-favours-indians/
https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/09/19/watch-beto-orourke-to-black-american-illegal-immigrant-labor-needed-for-cotton-gin/
@emacs My father taught me as a teen that the very essence of Capitalism is Exploitation. The forms of exploitation are many. Knowledge – knowing something that other people don’t and then using it is exploitation. We try to make insider trading illegal, but the truth is, it’s not even possible. People are exploited all the time. IBM kept a friend of mine on an H1B delaying his green Card status 18 years! His salary was 70% of mine. He just got his green card, so they must be desperate to cut people. Money is exploited. Even in the 1980’s I had a VP of Sabre bragging he was able to get 2% interest rates for his projects when rates were generally 11% at the time. As a young couple, my wife and I were paying 10 7/8% for our home mortgage. How can he get money for 2% when I’m paying almost 11? The young are exploited. I worked 70-80 hours a week in my 20’s and 30’s, eager to get promoted and get raises. I got less than the inflation rate in raises for 11 years. Exploited. When I left, I was making 30% more with 2 years. 50% more in 5. So, @emacs, grow up. The world is a shitty place, exploitation is rampant. But it’s not Capitalism either. In Communism, the party members and leaders get 30x what the average man does too. So, more exploitation there. It’s human greed and selfishness. In period of time where there are resources the selfish and greedy gobble it up. In times of poverty and scarcity, and dramatic loss, people share. At least the little people do. The media try’s to call out what is unfair, but in the end it’s all unfair. Try to make the deals and have behavior that improve your standing, and let the rest go. 90% of the H1Bs I deal with are so far back on the skills curve and so incompetent, that I am easily 200-300% more productive than them. I just automate away their jobs instead of dealing with them. In a prior job, as a manager, I reduced a department from 10 to 5 with automation. That’s what the boss wanted. Efficiency and doing the same and more for less $$$. So the partners could put it in their pockets and take it home. Capitalism at work.
@emacs And AI is just a fancy work for more automation. The business leaders of the world want fully automated processes and systems that sell people what they need and want with minimal labor, fewer programmers and admins, and faster automatic integration. It’s all good until something breaks in a super complex system. Then it takes expert to figure out what went wrong. My father’s advice? In the end the little guy gets screwed. Don’t be the bunny.
https://youtu.be/eQFnbAC1pWA
I think I figured it out…
Crookley knows if he ever resolved the mineserver issue he looses all the page views he gets from people checking the comments, so he has no incentive to give any update except his vague “in a few days” promise (lie)
@John I think you’re right. After all, that is the only thing I come to this blog for anymore. Rarely is anything said, but the few times there is make it worth checking in.
Very interesting article. Thanks Bob!
An interesting article, Bob.
I’ve long held the belief that today’s press can’t survive in a happy world, they have to polarise sections of society against each other (example: black v white, rich v poor, men v women, young v old, etc) in the desperate hope that they will be able to create sufficient bad news to sell more papers and ad-clicks.
@Rogue One I’ve certainly heard it said that Donald Trump was the best thing to happen to the media (right across the political spectrum) in the past 10 years.
Our biggest challenge today is finding a balance between ‘good for corporations’ and ‘good for people in general’. At the moment the balance is tilted disgustingly far in the direction of corporations.
@John – Cringely has always had supreme contempt for his readers. It was funny, maybe even endearing in a curmudgeonly way, back when it was arguments about whether something was invented in 1974 in Palo Alto or 1973 in Los Gatos. And part of it was the pose of the Cringely character he played.
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Or at least I thought it was a pose. Affectations become habits as you get older, and sometimes people become increasingly become trapped in a performance until it’s who you really are. By his actions (the last MS update to the actual people who gave him money was nearly TWO YEARS ago, and it was to proclaim that some vital component was “almost ready”.)
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The whole thing is still funny, though for different reasons. This would make a great book – I think even people pissed about MS would buy it. “The misadventures of a technology dinosaur dad and some teenagers that tried to start a company.” But again I don’t think the Cringely who takes it all so seriously would like people to think of him that way or could take the hit to his ego.
Work has been fairly good this week. Among other things I deep throated a black man’s cock before a grand finale of him taking me doggy style and pulling me down on him as he pumped merrily away. It’s been ages since I had a black client. He was a jerk of a client so I doubt I will see him again along with all the white clients who are jerks.
I also rejected a television show. The production company wasn’t prepared to discuss terms and conditions over an expensive lunch or offer the kind of money I wanted. That’s one more offer than Cringely has got recently.
Work has been fairly good this week. Among other things I deep throated a black man’s cock before a grand finale of him taking me doggy style and pulling me down on him as he pumped merrily away. It’s been ages since I had a black client. He was a jerk of a client so I doubt I will see him again along with all the white clients who are jerks.
I also rejected a television show. The production company wasn’t prepared to discuss terms and conditions over an expensive lunch or offer the kind of money I wanted. That’s one more offer than Cringely has got recently.
P.S. Cringely deletes my comments in contravention of his “anything goes”policy. Was it something I said? Naughty boy!
Oh hey, trashtalk is back. Welcome back, we’ve missed you (though it seems most people don’t want to admit it). Did your old comments really get deleted? That seems surprising, considering that hardly anyone (including Bob himself) seems to care what gets written down here, but I guess it’s not really surprising considering that most of the comments were a little, um, off-topic to say the least. I always found them entertaining, but you can’t deny that this probably isn’t the right venue for that sort of commentary. That being the case, do you have any other avenues, like a website or Twitter feed or somesuch, where we can get further information about your activities? You’re offering a valuable service to the techies of the world, and I’m sure there’s more than one senior manager somewhere in Silicon Valley who would be happy to offer you a position, or even several positions, in an adjacent office.
So I heard! Aaprt from Eric Schmidt who was smart enough to keep a mistress on the books as a consultant (which is whatI advise clients in a similar position to bill me for) most Google execs didn’t have the brain and tried to get nooky on the cheap. You would think a multi-millionaire like Andy Rubin would pay to keep a mistress to avoid entanglements and liability.
For legal reasons I can’t advertise sex outside the UK but if a client wanted to hire me for consultancy services or seek intimate company within the UK I’m sure a mutually satisfactory and completely legal arrangement can be found.
Thank you for your shared.
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The NYT piece “I Am Part of the Resistance” was utterly bizarre. What was the point? It certainly demonstrates an ability to manipulate the press.One of the premier news sources in the country was enticed to print anonymous, unverified claims by a person supposedly very close to the president who has seemingly gone quite rogue.
Equally bizarre is this ever-unresolved Mineserver debacle. I was blissfully unaware of the mini-drama until this year, when I looked in on what had become of Cringely after many years away. This? A crowd-sourced game server project that never saw the light of day but which has never been properly pronounced dead? Empty promises on a blog but absolute silence on the Kickstarter site? For YEARS?
Come on, Cringely. As many have said before, bring some closure. And since you’re a writer of undeniable skill, why not write about what really happened. I think there’s a book in there somewhere, as was once said of “Accidental Empires.”
I’m writing this here because I want to remain semi-anonymous. And you still allow me to speak. Not like the rest who want me to be on Facebook.
When Trump was electioneering his slogan was ”Make America Great Again”. He got in and the first thing he did was reduce USA taxes to the rich corporations. Not much trickled down to the workers.
Today he’s saving USA debt by locking out ( a labor term) USA employees.
So the Fcukhead of USA THINKS that the workers can live on air while the rich get richer.
America was great after WWII because it was the only country with an unhurt economy in the world. And my favourite statistic of WWII was the increase in GDP of UK Germany CCCP Japan and USA.
UK, Germany, CCCP and Japan all increased their GDP by about 300%.
Guess how much USA increased its GDP? See below to keep you guessing — *
The point of this is: in a 2019 world its impossible for that to happen. China is GREAT. Japan is a big economy. Germany is a big economy. EU is great. India is getting there. South Korea is important.
USA was accelerating from a depression low to maximum war production. Peanuts Ice-cream and corn was not seen as luxury. Only civilian cloths were rationed and other non- essential war stuff.
Post WWII science grew exponentially from repatriated German technology fuelled by the Cold War.
There were so many US$ in Europe that Newsweek called them “Eurodollars” and this lead directly to USA under Nixon leaving the Gold standard in the early 1970’s.
Fcukhead of USA knows nothing of this and is selling the public snake oil. His job is to reduce the $21 Trillion debt not increase it. Otherwise USA will be another banana republic!
* — 2300% Yes 23 times GDP from before WWII. That why it was great. Today thats impossible but you can’t tell that to Fcukhead and the USA & the (re)public will suffer. ( If you want to see where Fcukhead of USA stands — he wants Trump Hotels in Moscow and Trump golf resorts in North Korea: He said that on TV. How will that make USA great again????)
This is good
Until his Presidency is over…
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