Bob Taylor, who far more than Al Gore had a claim to being the Father of the Internet, died from complications of Parkinson’s Disease last Thursday at 85. Though I knew him for 30 years, I can’t say I knew Bob well but we always got along and I think he liked me. Certainly I respected him for being that rarity — a non-technical person who could inspire and lead technical teams. He was in a way a kinder, gentler Steve Jobs.
Bob’s career seemed to have three phases — DARPA, XEROX, and DEC — and three technical eras — mainframes, local area network (workgroup) computing, and the Internet.
At DARPA in the 1960s Taylor was in charge of a budget to support computing at major research universities. Computing in those days meant mainframes and every school wanted one. But there was only so much money to go around so Bob looked for a way for universities to share mainframes by networking them together. This was the ARPAnet, predecessor to today’s Internet.
Sharing batch processing mainframes in the punched card era bears little similarity to what we think of as the Internet today. And the story that’s often told of the ARPAnet as some Cold War command and control system is just as wrong. But ultimately the ARPAnet became all that and more because Taylor didn’t demand to control its evolution. This was a key contribution.
Another key contribution was the succession plan Taylor created in his little part of DARPA. Even after he left the agency his influence continued for two decades through the efforts of people he had hired. Larry Roberts, Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf each ran the office in turn. All were exactly the technologists that Taylor wasn’t, yet in one way or another he brought them all into the operation. So while Bob Taylor appears to have had nothing to do with TCP/IP, it can be just as easily argued that he made the protocol inevitable.
Taylor left DARPA for XEROX in 1970, charged with staffing the Computer Science Lab at the new Palo Alto Research Center (PARC). Admittedly about half of his work involved simply hiring-away the best people he could get from Doug Engelbart’s team at the Stanford Research Institute. At one point a bitter Engelbart claimed to me that 43 ex-SRI folks were working for Taylor at PARC. But what he did there was much more than just hiring: Taylor helped to establish at PARC the environment that made possible many of the computing advancements of today.
The way this was done was by deliberately living 10 years in the future when it came to technology. XEROX wanted to understand the office of the future and for a company that slow-moving the future meant about a decade away. While keeping your eye on that horizon might not seem like a big task it actually is if you take into account the impact of Moore’s Law: if computing power doubles every 18 months then creating the computing environment of 10 years in the future required making everything 64 times as powerful, which generally cost at least 64 times as much, too. It was a huge expense but the results included local area networking, Ethernet, graphical computing, WYSIWYG, page description and object oriented languages (remote procedure calls!) and, of course, the laser printer.
Bob Taylor was one of the guys who had to defend that 64X budget. He also ordered PARC’s famous beanbag chairs.
When chinks began to appear in XEROX PARC’s bureaucratic armor, Taylor in 1984 took most of his lab across town to Digital’s System Research Laboratory where the fun continued for another decade. The most notable company to emerge from SRL was Alta-Vista, the Internet’s first search engine.
Over 30 years Bob Taylor — a psychologist — took the world from isolated mainframes running batch jobs to thousands of servers indexing the World Wide Web. His contribution to the Internet we know today was huge.
Died before he got his minecraft server, poor guy…
Take a break from your vitriol for once, for Christ’s sake. Have a little class.
Yes, we’re the ones without class. Meanwhile Bob gets a free pass to embezzle $35k because someone died. 151,600 die per day; It’s always a bummer when someone we know and love pass away but such instances don’t excuse his actions.
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You could argue that we could let it rest (either for this article alone or indefinitely) but we’ve given Bob over 6 months to let it rest if he simply responded to us. It is not our fault he has failed to take any action. Blame your spineless leader for creating the monsters that plague this site. He knows we exist and that we’re bothering all of you, and yet he lets it persist and you continue to support him. What a strange relationship you all have with someone who regards you so poorly…
Don’t be an asshole. This is an obituary. Don’t relinquish your moral high ground by banging that drum here and now.
“This is an obituary”.
Well then these other comments are appropriately on-topic, as requiem for Mark-Bob’s deceased conscience.
“What a strange relationship you all have with someone who regards you so poorly…”
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Seems to be rather common in this country these days.
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For those who want class and respect for Bob Taylor, there are better places to find it than this site and its corrupt author.
I knew Bob Taylor. He absolutely despised cringely. Never missed a chance to call him an arrogant douche bag.
Sorry, still enjoy Bob’s Columns more than I like your belly aching. I don’t really care how much money you sent him. Seems like a personal problem between him and anyone who sent him money.
I’m such a far away observer…
But, yes, this story repeated, I think does matter. I think it fair to assume our society puts a high value on journalists. We automatically give almost all journalists a free pass and near blind trust. It’s sure unfortunate but I don’t know why anyone with a legitimate complaint should go away, self censor, silence themselves. After all, would a good journalist do that?
$35k? I’ve only just seen this. Link to details?
Found some info. Failed Kickstarters (even sketchy ones) aren’t criminal. They’re built into the system. It’s a gamble and you lost. Move on, do some adulting, and be skeptical about giving your money to someone without assurances.
@Buffords Since this (like many other non-backer complaints) has been brought up countless times again and again in other posts, I’m just going to spare myself from writing something up and quote my favorite advocate for the backers, @Roger (source A and source B, compiled for your convenience):
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“…having backed a lot of projects on Kickstarter, yes, you’re taking a risk. Not every project is successful and not every project is as good as hoped and, yes, some seem like outright scams. But when they do work out, it’s generally a wonderful thing. …
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The thing about Kickstarter or anything else, for that matter, is that you have to decide how much faith and trust you have in someone. The long and the short of it is that Cringely’s reputation was such that I felt the risk was minimal. Turns out I was wrong on that — Cringely’s reputation seems to be wholly undeserved.
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I evaluated the risk … and considered how much I could afford to lose. … I determined whether or not I could afford to back the project and how likely it was to succeed — either by shipping a product or by providing me with entertainment/education.
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The fact that Cringely is a known quantity did, in my opinion, increase the likelihood of the latter, at the very least, and was indeed a factor in my decision to back the project. So, yes, I misjudged that.
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See, here’s the thing. I thought that Cringely was a respectable person with credibility and a reputation on the line. I was wrong. Okay, so fool me once, shame on me, but fool me twice shame on you — I’m hoping that what reputation and credibility Cringely might have had previously is exposed as worthless so that the next time he tries something like this, others won’t make the same mistake.
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So to revisit your initial comments, you see, even if I hadn’t lost any money to this crook, I would still care because I wouldn’t anyone else to get burned.
So all that to say, even if we made a blunder in trusting Cringely and backing a project he assured us was essentially ready to ship before we even gave him our money, we sure as heck want to assure that no one else ever makes the same mistake. Likely he won’t ever host another KS, but even now people flock to Bob’s defense despite how poorly he treated 388 individuals by robbing them of their money.
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If you all are willing to stand by while injustice unfolds before you, by all means, plead ignorance. The rest of us are here to speak up. If that inconveniences you, my apologies. Take it up with Cringely who will ignore you as he has us. *scrambles and looks for a mic to drop*
“$35k? I’ve only just seen this. Link to details?”
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“… be skeptical about giving your money to someone without assurances.”
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First, the details:
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The Cringely boys Kickstart Mineserver™, a $99 Minecraft server — https://www.cringely.com/2015/09/29/the-cringely-boys-kickstart-mineserver-a-99-minecraft-server/
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Last chance to get a Mineserver™ for Christmas! — https://www.cringely.com/2015/10/19/last-chance-to-get-a-mineserver-for-christmas/
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The original Kickstarter campaign — https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/583591444/mineservertm-a-99-home-minecraft-server/
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So let’s address your admonition to not give someone money “without assurances.” How should one decide whether or not to give someone money? How do you trust someone? What about family? If you think that’s a good indicator, you’ve never watched The People’s Court or Judge Judy. Heck, I’ll give you my brother’s contact info and sit back with a bowl of popcorn to see how much he takes you for.
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Should it be based solely on an airtight contract? Even that won’t help much if the other party takes off and it would cost more to go to court than you’d get back. What about only dealing with the very wealthy? Ask the folks who have done business with our current presidential embarrassment.
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Ultimately, I think one must base one’s decision on the reputation of the person involved and do your best to analyze their ability to pay back or otherwise follow through. Would I loan Drumpf any money? Not on your life. My brother? Everyone who knows him knows to keep their hand on their wallet when he’s around.
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What about a respected author and pundit with years of experience in the computer industry? Would such a person be a reliable bet? Given his assurances that the Mineserver was all but ready to ship, it seemed unlikely at the time that he would throw away everything he’s worked for all these years over a mere $35k.
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And yet, here we are. Perhaps I should have done more research about the sort of person Cringely is; I was not a follower of his, though I of course knew of him.
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So, yes, I’m out some money and I have learned more than I care to know about Mark Stephens aka Bob Cringely. I’ll live. But, I’ll also do my best to make sure that no one else falls for his scams.
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OK, I am royally sick of hearing your tired, whining bullshit.
Applying Godwin’s Law, you are now officially a Nazi sympathizer spreading your sick, perverted fascist propaganda down our throats and Hitler himself couldn’t be more pleased with you.
Accordingly, this whole meme can now die the death it so richly deserves.
Shut the F#@& Up!!!
@Reefe – my, my, did you forget to take your meds?
Tell us what you really think, why don’t ya?
Have you tried directing your tired, whining complaint to the site owner?
I hear he’s very responsive to his loyal supporters.
Are there 2 commenters called “Freeman”?
1)Well then these other comments are appropriately on-topic, as requiem for Mark-Bob’s deceased conscience.
2)Have you tried directing your tired, whining complaint to the site owner?
Hi Ronc,
Sorry for the confusion, but I was responding to Reefe’s tired, whining complaint about people bringing up the Miner-Server issue. The bit about Mark-Bob being responsive to his loyal supporters was intended as sarcasm. Kind of putting the shoe on the other foot of those who have asked Miner-Server commenters why they haven’t taken up the issue directly with Mark-Bob instead of airing it in public.
I should have addressed it to @Reefe since it ended up three lines below the comment I was responding to, that would have made it clearer.
@Freeman. I get it, there are whiners who whine, and whiners who whine about the whiners.
Yeah! Whining whiners and the whining whiners who whine about whining whiners. Seems we’re all represented in there somewhere!
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I’m not sure you really understand Godwin’s Law. Basically, you lose.
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That said, I don’t think Hitler would be too pleased with me; he put my grandparents and aunts to death. But thank you for being such an asshole. Any credibility you might have ever had just went down the toilet where, by the way, you belong.
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You’re all bluster and blowhard, and yet you can’t bring yourself to write the actual word “fuck”. Wow, how very grown-up of you. You think that word is more offensive than the rest of your comment?
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You, sir, need to grow up and act like an adult before your mom cuts off your internet access.
The world, and not just our little technical corner, is full of people like this – people who lead by pushing from the back, not pulling from the front. For the most part they are unsung heroes – but without them, those pulling from the front would be lost up some remote valley having forgotten to look at the map and taken a wrong turn while talking to the press.
Alta-Vista, how I miss you, google is just a pale imitation (on a good day).
Oh no… I am so very sorry to hear this. Bob was a one off, irreplaceable, his contributions to computing and just about all by way of computing so very, very undervalued. One of my all time heroes. Goodbye, Bob. Gone but never ever forgotten.
Thank you Bob for once again shining a light on the people that made the things we take for granted so often.
When I saw my news alert the other day that Taylor had died, I immediately recognized his picture – even after ageing – from Bob’s “Triumph of the Nerds” series and waited for Bob’s reaction. Thanks, Bob. I was reminded how far we’ve developed technologically this weekend while buying a new car. I bought my first car in 1975 and one of the first accessories I got was a CB radio. This weekend considering a used 2015 car, I decided I could do without the integrated GPS Navigation System because, you know, I could just use the mapping and direction apps on my phone.
Thank you, Bob, for documenting how much we owe to the digital pioneers like Bob Taylor, Doug Englebart, Bob Metcalfe, and so many others who aren’t so immediately recognizable as Steve, Steve, Bill and Paul.
A wonderful tribute and a beautiful trip down memory lane. Thank you for remembering!
Thanks for articulating so well the history and importance of a quiet unsung pioneer and visionary that so much changed our world for the better.
>more than Al Gore had a claim to being the Father of the Internet
Not setting the bar all that high.
@MikeN: Al Gore never claimed that he invented the Internet irregardless of how much right-wing wackos claim so.
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From: https://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Someone had to make sure that funds were appropriated and the various legal frameworks need to also be created. The Internet had multiple “parents”.
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Gore replied (in part):
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
In context, Gore’s response (which employed the word “created,” not “invented”) was clear in meaning:
the vice president was not claiming that he “invented” the Internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was one of the visionaries responsible for helping to bring it into being by fostering its development in an economic and legislative sense,
Whatever. Gore was elected to Congress in 1977, Internet was moving along without him. He made a few speeches, and now wanted credit for it. In the middle of a campaign, some Silicon Valley liberals even vouched for him.
Well when that “silicon valley liberal” is Vinton Cerf, one of the guys that ACTUALLY invented TCP/IP,
gives credit to Al Gore… maybe it’s time to listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuAJoEv5nQ
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39621198?ocid=global_bbccom_email_17042017_technology
Kına organizasyonu olarak yılların vermiş olduğu tecrübe ve birikim ile ,siz değerli gelin adaylarımıza sunduğumuz geniş ürün yelpazemiz ve özel tasarımlarımızın yanı sıra kına gecenize özel hazırlanan müthiş show ve gösterilerimiz ile yılın sultanı siz olacaksınız. Kına Organizasyonu Müşteri memnuniyeti odaklı çalışmalarımızı sanki kendi düğünümüz gibi sahiplenip her şeyin kusursuz gerçekleşmesi için kına geceniz ile ilgili tüm detaylı organizasyonu eğitimli kadromuz eşliğinde yürütmekteyiz.
http://bagdatkaftan.com/kina-organizasyonu/
Have to wonder who is the Bob Taylor of today? Will we have to wait 25 years to figure that out?
Some might call me pessimistic for saying (or writing) this, but I’m willing to suppose that there isn’t one. The next 25 years are unlikely to bring us a technology which is as far-reaching and pervasive in our everyday lives as computers and the Internet, meaning that there is no one today who is developing such a technology.
This makes sense. Someone who timetravels from his house in 1895 to 1955 would see all sorts of advances. From 1955 to 2015, would be about the same. First trip had cars that were the province of kings, airplane, telephone that he had read about, and so much more..
Interesting you would pick 1955, the year I learned how to solder, as a pivot point. Now, when my wife asks me “how did you do that”, I say “62 years experience”.
First one that comes to mind in Elon Musk.
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PayPal, Tesla, Space X, Gigafactory.
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While I’m sure big business will eventually dominate electric cars, he must get credit for at least making them seem cool and desirable.
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Also his space adventures may come to nought in the long run but he’s delivering and making it seem exciting again.
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Less sure on his battery adventures but he seems well ahead of the curve.
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More of a promoter than Bob ever was but influential non the less.
I can’t get over how much people cheer just at the mention of Gigafactory(check out his announcement of dual motors). The whole thing is a cult.
He has already scammed California out of hundreds of millions with his fake fast battery swap station, and he continues to get sweetheart deals all over the country. SolarCity gives you the panels for free and then collects the subsidy and sells you the power.
Yes, you are quite correct. Of course Elon Musk didn’t write those rules, every other company operates under the same rules and competing industries such as petrochemicals get subsidies on a titanically greater scale. Arguably if government is subsidising something it’s because they want people to do more of it, so isn’t Musk doing exactly what society wants people to do?
But I expect you know all that perfectly well. Is it just that you’re against all subsidies, or do you have a specific issue with the ones Musk has taken advantage of?
I’ve heard it said that the following generations are not going to look on this era so benignly. We saw 1000 improvements in our lives, within living memory (even if you’re not all that old) without thinking too much about where it was leading — the surveillance state, all of our data being voluntarily surrendered and mined continually to figure out a way to make us spend 15 cents instead of 14 cents for a pound of salt. All of that information “protected” behind incredibly vulnerable security walls. It looks quite insane — how could anyone expose themselves to such risk just to save from having to reach into a wallet and pay $2 for a coffee? Why were laws protecting privacy willingly circumvented by the protected parties themselves surrendering everything so they could see their niece’s graduation photos (which nobody really had much trouble seeing before)?
Kudos to those who got the comments on the right track!
I too really enjoy Bob’s history of the these, the most interesting of times. Never has any technology rushed thru the population as quickly as computers and the internet.
I print these articles at times when pertinent and tuck them inside my copy of Accidental Empires.
Really hungering for a sequel to that book, Bob!
“Really hungering for a sequel to that book, Bob!”
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Just don’t back it on Kickstarter…
Roger, I’d gladly support a sequel to that book on Kickstarter.
The book he researched and created will last the ages.
Just out of curiosity, just how much did you LOSE (not the total that is bandied about, but you personally) by contributing to the mine server thing?
Sometime, Kickstarter items fail to achieve their objective. I’ve given to many.
I see my occasional loss as an opportunity to further the creation of a product. You know, reward the creator for the idea by helping them along.
As the creator of a product that sells for money in this world, I must ask you, have you created anything, or tried to?
Or did you berate your children for failing to run when you put them on their feet for the first time?
@Dave: Same old asked-and-answered obvious questions, over and over and over. Everybody just jumps in with zero understanding of the situation they’re commenting on.
A little read through this very comment thread answers every one of those questions, ffs! They’ve been addressed a million times over the last six months.
Good luck with the Kickstarter-funded sequel book, or anything else associated with MS/RXC. I’d say let us know how that turns out but most of the rest of us have seen that movie before.
@Dave I’m not sure why you’d back this sequel since you clearly don’t know how to read. As @Freeman stated, ALL of your questions have been answered across the past few blog entries nearly to the “T”, many by Roger alone. Here are some tips for success:
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Step 1.) Learn to Read
Step 2.) Learn to use the internet
Step 3.) Incorporate what you learned
Step 4.) If you make it this far, then you should consider backing the sequel
“Roger, I’d gladly support a sequel to that book on Kickstarter.”
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See, that’s exactly why I waste my time on this. Because I want to let other folks know that even though Cringely may have once been a respected writer and he did write that one book that was notable, he is currently not someone to be trusted. Apparently, I haven’t gotten through to you yet.
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“Just out of curiosity, just how much did you LOSE (not the total that is bandied about, but you personally) by contributing to the mine server thing?”
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Well, as I’ve said before, not enough that my wife noticed it on the credit card statement but enough that she’d be upset if she knew I got nothing for it. A little under $100, iirc.
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“Sometime, Kickstarter items fail to achieve their objective. I’ve given to many.”
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This is true and, had Cringely been communicative all along, been up front about the problems, and finally admitted “I’m sorry folks, but it’s not working out and I’ve spent all the money and I can’t go any further,” most of the backers would have been okay with it. I’ve backed somewhere over 120 projects that were funded. Some of them I selected “no reward” simply because I just wanted to help them reach their goal. From a dance floor in a town I’ll likely never visit to helping a theatre go digital in the town where I spent my honeymoon to getting the Fagbug to Hawaii, there have indeed been times I just wanted to help with no need for any reward. And there have been times where the final product was not as had been hoped and, yet, because the creator was honest and forthright and included the backers in the process, no one really minded.
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“As the creator of a product that sells for money in this world, I must ask you, have you created anything, or tried to?”
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sinasohn/lego-my-chess-set (Successful and delivered, mostly, on time. My life fell apart in a bunch of ways as the project ended, so the t-shirts were sent out a bit late.)
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http://springwallet.com/ (Sadly, the Handspring Visor was quickly obsoleted by the smartphone. In an Osborne-ian move, they kinda did it to themselves.)
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“Or did you berate your children for failing to run when you put them on their feet for the first time?”
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Amusingly, my oldest didn’t start walking until very late (2+yo, iirc) but when he did, he stood up and walked across the room as pretty as you please. Now he’s a top notch tap dancer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbkDvmixcMs
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What I won’t tolerate from my kids (or anyone else, *Bob*) is not owning up to your mistakes and lying (even by omission.)
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Hopefully, this answers your questions.
I think it is disgraceful you complain about a personal transaction at the end of an article for someone who has died. I am sick of seeing complaints about mine server on articles written by Bob. Grow up and complain directly to Bob not in comments.
Bob/Mark does not respond directly. All Bob, his wife (she, Mary Alyce Neader Stephens is listed as the Mindserver creator) and his kids accounts under Cringely are abandoned. He has not logged onto his Kickstarter page in over 6 months. Our only option is to nag him in this forum to get a once a quarter response on more Mindserver information coming soon. So here we are.
@Brett and yet here I am sick of people complaining about the MineServer folks and offering solutions that we have already attempted AND addressed here on this site ad nauseam, explaining how futile it has been to this point.
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If you want to argue, do your homework and offer us a better solution (Read: something we HAVEN’T tried countless times), otherwise you are equally just wasting everyone’s time.
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Or to piggyback off of what @Freeman said, you are equally welcome to complain to Bob directly. Please let us know how responsive he is because *SPOILER* the answer is not at all.
@Broken Record:
Maybe it’s time to start inquiring with the three tech leaders Bob associated with the project when he advertised it here for the first time. He’s gotten damn good at ignoring the peons, but one of those guys might be able to get a response out of him.
“I think it is disgraceful you complain about a personal transaction…”
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And I think it is disgraceful for people to discount a wrong that has been done simply because it inconveniences them.
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That said, if you really want to do something about this, “complain directly to Bob not in comments.”
What’s even more disgraceful than MineServer customers being ripped off, is the complete lack of response from Kickstarter on the matter.
Maybe we could find a reputable columnist to do an article on THAT!
I’m pretty disgusted with those who are content to ignore one family’s disgraceful behavior while directing vitriol at their 388 victims.
OK, I see where I went wrong on the big Mine server controversy. I fed the trolls, who in turn got on a soap box and wrote even more information that I don’t care about. I think I just need to ignore the posts about that subject, and focus on the ones that reflect the subject matter. I’m truly sorry I provoked you all, I won’t make that mistake again.
Hey, You forgot the P when you typed your name, or is it silent ?
So, I pop over here every once in a while just to see what is going on. I am one of those Kickstarter people who feels ignored.
One thing I would like to point out while respecting those great individuals who advanced our lives with technology is that Cringely is in control of the “whiners.” He could have addressed the issue that has been created by ignoring his backers. He could keep comments from his blog by being open. I honestly don’t think there would be a single whiner at all if he would have just come over and said… “hey guys… I can’t do it.”
People are whining here because they are ignored, and I think they just want to be heard. I can only assume that Cringely ignoring, not only the Kickstarter questions but the comments on his own blog, is what he desires in the first place.
Pioneering computer scientist Harry Huskey dies at 101
April 21st, 2011
SANTA CRUZ, Calif. (AP) — One of the last surviving members of the team that created the pioneering ENIAC computer in the 1940s has died. Harry Huskey was 101.
The University of California-Santa Cruz says Huskey died April 9 at his home in the city. Huskey was a professor emeritus at the university.
Huskey was teaching mathematics at the University of Pennsylvania in the 1940s when he joined the ENIAC team. ENIAC made its public debut in Philadelphia in 1946 as one of the world’s first electronic computers. It weighed 30 tons and was 150 feet long.
Huskey later designed the Bendix G15 in the 1950s, which was billed as the first personal computer.
He taught at the University of California from 1954 to his retirement in 1986 at the age of 70.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBIT_COMPUTER_PIONEER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-21-11-26-26
@Ronc For those interested in the “speeds and feeds” of the G15, the computational registers were on a spinning magnetic drum while the RAM was based on vacuum tubes. Each bit of RAM consisted of two tubes and the related passive components on a plug in module. I’ve included a link to a picture of a module. And yes, all of that was required for one bit.
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https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FE-OOFS3Fr5s%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DE-OOFS3Fr5s&docid=Aoe4R78FqcOtBM&tbnid=UuLG_7KS93rQ9M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwia1Y_v5LjTAhXnyoMKHY4pAAcQMwhoKDowOg..i&w=1280&h=720&bih=752&biw=1400&q=bendix%20g15%20bit%20tube&ved=0ahUKEwia1Y_v5LjTAhXnyoMKHY4pAAcQMwhoKDowOg&iact=mrc&uact=8
here is a better link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-OOFS3Fr5s
No mine server for poor old Harry either. Man that’s gotta suck
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Actually, Gore deserves a lot of credit. Also, great article Mr. Cringeley. It is why I keep coming back. I wish you could put them out more often. Unless people have to die for you to put them out, in which case, no, I don’t want them that often.
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Taking the internet and unprivatizing it out from defense was a very big deal. It could have been done so much better and we are going to unfortuately possibly see how very bad things could have gotten. We paid for those wires and cables the telecoms administer. For that matter, this goes back to a corrupt President who paid for the transcontinental railroad by a no bid contract to the only company that ever hired him. The Southern Pacific then got a trail of rails at public expense. It put lines along them (also probably at public expense). These lines got better and did more and then Southern Pacific charged as a monopoly for it but it was called Sprint.
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Hope that President gets… oops…. too soon.
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Gore didn’t do anything that bad but he didn’t take the wires BACK from Southern Pacific. And he should have.
Trump is trying to sell the entire highway system so it will be like your cable company. Good news he will be a better deal maker than that last President. Bad news, he and his family will get all the kickbacks not us.
Don Trump , dealmaker. YEAH BOY .. if it wasn’t for daddy ..he be working the johns/or working in the john at the Port Authority !
Great article Mr Cringely. Agree that his contribution was huge.
Very disappointed by the comments. Kickstarter is a gamble and everyone knows that. I have had backed many things. Some very successful and some not. The most expensive thing was a badly put together 3D printer that could litteraly burn down your house.
In the grand scheme of things I have still come out ahead on deals with more positive products.
3 still in the hopper waiting to see what comes.
Guys its really disappointing but it is not death. Its only a gamble on a silly game. The odds are better than the stock market and better than the £2 billion hit Warren took on IBM stocks.
Eventually you will grow up and realise that a reporter even a tech saavy one can’t foresee the future. Especially when it was a project started by kids.
Working as a games product designer myself before Kickstarter we had plenty of turkeys. We also were one of the best gamer companies in the world. With some of the best games and platform. The people we employed were the best in the business and on occasion there were still failures.
The worst was the security breach that saw millions of user data stolen. At the time the focus was on Network gaming and security at the time was good. Unfortunately the budget and the way the ‘work was assigned’ there was no department or ongoing work to continually approve. The budgets mainly coming from marketing and product were directing effort to pushing new shiney things.
It’s like being a home owner and spending the money on new kitchens and furnishings but neglecting the drains. Eventually there is a problem.
But I digress. These facts are probably too difficult to comprehend.
So let me just say that like will get better and send you a virtual hug and say ‘there, there, there’. Take a deap breath, count all your fingers and toes to make sure they are still there, get some fresh air, you are still alive etc….
All is not lost. You gave it a shot and it didn’t work out. I bet Steve Jobs felt a lot worse when the Next computer failed.
Snookums, patron saint of pathetic losers
The issue isn’t Kickstarter risks, but Bob’s lack of communication.
This is true about Bob Taylor:
Ted Nelson – Computers for Cynics 2 – It All Went Wrong at Xerox PARC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SUOeAqOjU
Bob did contribute to the shape of today world – but it is BAD, BAD world…!
While Douglas Engelbart was trying to build system that would use computers true potential
Xerox made modern “typewriters” out of computer! Making computer dumb, dumb machine for producing prints of data on paper! Please listen Ted Nelson video, you will realize what Bob Taylor did at Xerox Parc!