Not very long ago I started answering questions on Quora, the question-and-answer site. My answers are mainly about aviation because that’s my great hobby and one of the few things besides high tech that I really know a lot about. But there was a question last week about Internet news coverage that I felt deserved better answers than it was getting. So I contributed an answer that has been read, so far, only 388 times. I don’t like making a real effort that is so sparsely read. So here, with a little mild editing, is my answer to “What are the flaws in online journalism and media today?” And “How can they be addressed?”
I generally agree with Dan Tynan, who is my hero, but think this subject needs more context which I will attempt to provide.
It’s easy to say Internet journalism is crap, but there has always been crap journalism, which we called hack journalism. The only difference between old hack and new crap is that new crap has analytics on its side.
First let’s dispense with the idea of journalistic impartiality. Those who think there is a tradition of impartiality in the press, or that the press has some obligation to be impartial, don’t know their history. What passes for impartial journalism is a commercial expedient that grew out of the wire service business model. Blame Reuters, Associated Press, United Press, etc. for this one. Newspapers were never unbiased. The newspaper owner always took a position and pushed his (inevitably his) candidates. It wasn’t just William Randolph Hearst — they all did it. Hearst just owned more newspapers and so had a louder voice.
Wire services invented impartial journalism so they could sell the same stories to Republican and Democrat. conservative and liberal newspapers. Appearing to be impartial doubled their revenue, simple as that. For the same reason they also invented the relentless flow of bad news that is most of the news business today, because bad news affects — and is of interest to — all types of people. Think of the ubiquitous “bus plunge” story. A bus in Mexico. Albania, West Virginia — it doesn’t matter where — plunges down a cliff killing a bunch of people who never mattered to us until they died.
Now let’s consider the First Amendment, which says nothing about press impartiality because it didn’t exist in the late 18th century. The First Amendment is all about government tolerance of dissent. It’s about the exact opposite of impartiality.
So there’s little press impartiality, no real obligation for the press to be impartial, and if you hate Fox News that’s probably because Roger Ailes understands this and you don’t. Ailes sells a particular product. The New York Times sells a very different product. Mother Jones sells a third type of product and the National Enquirer sells a fourth type of product. And they are all — believe it or not — news.
Now we come to the Internet. A lot of us first sensed something was changing when we ran into the word “content.” First there was “news” and then there was “content.” Content was something you could get by the pound. And that, too, isn’t such a new concept since the wire service “inverted pyramid” news writing style was design to be cut to size from the bottom up. A copy editor could theoretically make a story fit the available space without even reading it by simply trimming from the bottom up. Sounds like content to me, but we still called it “news.”
Those who are opposed to Internet journalism and who are professional journalists are generally annoyed that they don’t make as much money as they used to. The Golden Age of journalism wasn’t before the Internet, it was in the 1950s and 1960s. Back then a young writer could live on his or her own in Manhattan, write four national magazine stories per year, drink at Sardi’s, and still put a little money in the bank. Magazine freelance rates have not gone up in 30+ years. And I’m not talking about corrected for inflation. Top magazines were paying $2.50 per word in 1975 and they were still paying me $2.50 per word last week. And I’m lucky to get that. Writers reading this will ask “Who is paying Cringely that kind of money?”
Absent the Internet, then, professional journalism was already going down the tubes in the 1970s. There was a lot more of it (magazine titles, as an example, peaked at 50,000(!) in the 1980s). But you can’t have more channels and the same quality, so quality (and pay) went down.
The Internet just accelerated this trend. The number of channels multiplied yet again, the barriers to entry got lower and lower, new forms of media appeared to stratify the market and create new stars. Advertising changed, newspapers faltered, and that brings us right to the start of Dan Tynan’s answer to this question.
So read Dan’s answer if you haven’t already then come back here because I have more to say.
For all the economic forces that are guiding journalism and that have always guided journalism, despite the rise of Search Engine Optimization and despite my own aged cynicism, there’s a lot that is right with journalism today and a lot that could be better.
How do you measure story impact? Well nobody does measure it. And since nobody measures it, in a world where everything of value is measured that implies impact isn’t valued. And yet it is valued: we just don’t know how to measure it. I have had online editors, for example, telling me for the last 19 years that my blog posts are too long. Editors like something around 600 words but can never explain why. Maybe it just gives them something to do. Yet my average blog post is double that length and the longest I can recall off the top of my head was 4400 words.
Now here’s the thing about that 4400 word blog post, which you can read right here if you like: at least once a week some reader contacts me about that post. They either love it or hate it and they want me to know why. Sixteen years after the post was first published, people are still talking about it. That’s impact. And if that’s unmeasurable it’s a problem with SEO, not the Internet.
But the fact is that this kind of writing is out there and will remain there probably forever. This long tail is the saving grace of Internet journalism and maybe of all journalism.
Yet for all the bloggers and conspiracy theorists and journalism disintermediaries out there I remain amazed at how hard it is to reach a large audience. The idea when I was teaching was that there were gatekeepers at big newspapers, magazines, and news networks who decided what was news and what was not. Well the Internet was supposed to change all that. But it really didn’t. I still have stories I can’t get told. Books I’d like to write, Frontline episodes I’d like to produce, but it’s really no easier — maybe even harder — than before.
Maybe what we need every day is a tiny section in TMZ called interesting news we wouldn’t normally publish.
I don’t expect newspapers, magazines, or websites to be impartial but I *do* expect wire stories about news events to be more or less impartial with regards to reporting the facts. For decades, you could count on that with places like Reuters, UPI, and AP, but not anymore and you can guess which side of the roulette wheel they fall on. I am not talking about commentaries, investigative reports, editorials, etc. I am just talking about wire stories, which today, more often than not, have a preconceived narrative that the reporter is using as a template.
You could well be correct, I simply don’t know. Can you quote us an example of what you mean?
“As Donald Trump rises with harsh rhetoric and backlash, Hillary Clinton preaches love and kindness ”
Not partisan(although Bernie is really an Independent), but they coordinated their story of Hillary’s clinching the nomination, conveniently before California went to the polls.
The last paragraph says it all – no variation ergo Intel and “copy exactly”.
Do you mean this last paragraph “Maybe what we need every day is a tiny section in TMZ called interesting news we wouldn’t normally publish.”??
When my son was in college, he wanted to go into journalism. He made it through two years before he threw in the towel and changed majors. He wanted to write stories that required investigating, and they weren’t, and wouldn’t, teach him what he needed to learn. All they taught him was how to write the “stupid shit” that Dan Tynan tells us not to click on, and how to produce the sound bites and video clips that would fit the catchy “news” programs on today.. So, I think at least some of the blame for all the click-bait out there lies in how “journalism” is being taught these days.
“If It Bleeds It Leads” is still the mantra, along with “grabbing eyeballs”.
It’s been a LONG time since I taught journalism, but I did teach it for six years and at the end of the day it always seemed to me to be something less than a major, more like a summer school course. Certainly devoting years to the study of journalism (a Columbia journalism master’s takes TWO YEARS — what can they be teaching?) seems like time that should really be spent working not accumulating student debt. Before there were journalism schools and even for a long time after there were journalism schools (my grandfather graduated in journalism from the University of Michigan in 1917) journalists were called “newspapermen” and what they conducted was a trade, not a profession. Yet what you describe sounds more like a trade again. I taught journalism for six years but never took a course in it myself. Why would I? I started writing obits for the local paper at 14. I put myself through school working as a reporter never thinking I had to study to BE a reporter. I’m not saying the only way or even the best way is on-the-job-training, but I am saying this isn’t rocket science and maybe we depend a bit too much as a society on pieces of paper when we could be working. I don’t regret any aspect of my education because that was all stuff I generally couldn’t get on the job. Everything else is reading a lot, being curious, and asking questions.
Professional instruction is about having a basic grounding in the underlying science, not just knowledge of how to apply it. A technician needs the handbook of how thick a beam you need for a given weight supported; an engineer knows how to write the handbook from first principles of material strength and structural calculations.
You can see how a degree in English literature with a suite of courses, maybe a minor, in things like rhetoric and logic and philosophy and epistemology would equip a person to spot fact from fiction, do research, take apart speeches for real content, etc. A “journalism” degree just isn’t a basic science or arts degree by definition, you’d think it would be taught at technical schools that teach welding. The underlying “sciences” here are literature, research, logic, history. They already have their own degrees!
The distinction you’re trying to make between literature and journalism used to be, and as far as I know, still is, the one between fiction and non-fiction.
I grew up in a newsroom, as well as being an accepted interloper all across the station, except the sales floor. made a half a living at it out of college for 5 years with a BA/Journalism, too.
that changed radically in the usual way in 1979, and I went back to college for computer science, which led to a few interesting turns, but I’ve been in this job 20 years.
I was raised and educated in the “opinions at the door, you are not a Commentator” era. our news organizations encouraged public service without wearing labels outside, also. while we all carry our own biases, UN-L taught and WDAY/Z practiced that you need to remind yourself of them, and don’t bring them to script.
rare but still practiced in Respectable sources. this often leads to “on the one hand, on the other hand” writing that find spokesfolk for both sides with some recognition. columnists are so labelled, and can say any damn old thing they want except “riot with us, starting 8:25 at the North door…”. editorials, which can often be traced to the owner or publisher saying “look at story X, it is evil people lying, polish that and go 7 column-inches,” are the province of who the owner wants to clean up his rants, and staffs for it.
considering all the innate and owner bias there is, I have always adhered to the old saw that you need to read (aka surf, watch) papers which bias both sides of the fence. Respectable media outfits. if you have Breitbart as a home page, you should also be checking Politico. the Arizona Republican stunned me 25 years ago killing time on the plane, but there is also the Daily News there which leans left.
this way, anybody who still has the brains to ask “Why?” once in a while has a chance to see the nonsense that creeps in from both tails of the curve, and stick to the verifiable, proveable, observable facts. watch, learn, and think for yourself.
“I still have stories I can’t get told. Books I’d like to write, Frontline episodes I’d like to produce, but it’s really no easier — maybe even harder — than before.” But Bob, you can write books (like your IBM book) and write stories on your own blog more easily than ever before in history. Monetizing them might be more difficult (although I would imagine you did pretty well with your IBM book) but the Internet definitely did change the ease in which these stories can be told. A great example: The Digital Antiquarian. He writes wonderfully detailed, long-form blog posts about the history of computer games, and makes a living at it thanks to PayPal donations and Patreon.
My IBM book is not yet in the black even though it was self-published and the opportunity cost of it was staggering, which is why such efforts are rare. I get your examples. To a great extent I live them. After all I somehow support my family doing mainly this stuff. But the problem is still audience access. I can reach a lot of people but I can’t — as the IBM book shows — get existing media to pick up the story. I spoke recently with Sheila Nevins, who runs documentaries for HBO, pitching an idea for something very big, very important, but she said her audience wouldn’t care because the story was historical and her viewers don’t care about history. Tom Hanks can do history on HBO, just not Bob Cringely.
> her viewers don’t care about history
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I recently went to Belgium to visit the battlefields that dad fought at during WW-II (look up Elsenborn Ridge), and I found that the young people had little to no interest in the events that happened less than 100km from them. Even though practically every town in the area has a Sherman tank on display in their main square.
I live in a place that’s on the Knox Trail. As we approach the 4th of July, I’ll point out that this was a pretty important event in American history. There’s a commemorative marker in the center of town but I doubt that most residents ever read it, let alone know much about the event it commemorates. Granted, the Revolution was over 200 years ago and WWII is still in living memory, but the point was that people don’t care about history.
Well the article says this trail has 56 commemorative stones along it.
Good luck find the “Trail of Tears”…I predict it will be much longer before an effort at genocide is commemorated in any way at all.
“But Bob, you can write books (like your IBM book) and write stories on your own blog more easily than ever before in history. Monetizing them might be more difficult”
“we’ll be left with media operations controlled entirely by fortune 100 corporations and a bunch of small-fry bloggers who do this just for fun.”
Let me tell you guys MY take on this. Because I had a (rather deep) itch to scratch, I ended up writing the most thorough research on the history of holidays in my country, Chile. It started as a simple list, then it grew to an essay, then a monograph… and by now, at 180,000+ words, it qualifies as a full-fledged book, which I keep self-published at my own website. I actually asked around, and my chances of publishing it as a printed book are pretty much none whatsoever, as there’s just no market for it, so I just keep it on my website. Any possible ad revenue I might get from it is ransacked (I’m not using that word lightly) by other people who have set up scraping sites that play the SEO game, using the minimum amount of information needed (the list of the holidays for the current and upcoming year will satisfy about 95% of all searches), in several cases outright copied from my own webpage. So why keep I maintaining my own site? It’s all about the itch, at this point.
I also set up a “date calculator” site that would take holidays into account. Since that takes more effort, so far I haven’t found any copycat sites, so I can rake in all that ad revenue for myself… right? Turns out that in the two years it’s been up, with a Google Ads banner from day 1, my site has been serving about 600 daily queries and it’s netted about 75 dollars, total. At this point, I’m seriously thinking about simply removing the ad banner and keeping the site only for the itch.
What makes all this even more infuriating is that every year, most local news outlets will do a “What are the holidays for next year?” article or note… and they’ll extract the data they need from a copycat scraping site.
In some respects the Internet has had the same effect on journalism that it has had on music. People can more or less decide what they want to read (or listen to). It is no longer controlled by a few folks that think they know what is best for others to read or listen to. Of course there is pandering and click bait which is just capitalizing on our human nature. However, true talent does rise to the top and people searching for it can find it on the Internet. Personally, I was completely tired of the standard music being presented on radio and records/CDs in stores. Now I can follow the rabbit trails to what I truly enjoy. I end up finding artists that would have otherwise remained obscure. Same thing sort of applies for journalism. Those journalists with a passion for great reporting or investigative stories will be found by readers. Proper payment matching the quality remains an issue. Perhaps if the American culture wasn’t “profit at any cost”, then payment to musicians, journalists, farmers, and teachers would be more appropriate to what they provide. And we would still have a textile industry in the USA.
why would you used Quora? They have one of the more invasive “privacy sales” terms I have seen?
I was supposed to read the terms? They aren’t paying me. I clicked.
But you can’t have more channels and the same quality, so quality (and pay) went down.
So there’s only a finite number of good writers or good ‘content’? Don’t agree with that at all. You certainly could have more channels with the ‘same quality’. Pay going down is another story..
No, there’s a finite number of dollars. Spread the same dollars across vastly more channels and budgets drop. Dropping budgets push talent away. You can argue that there will always be islands of quality (and dollars) but the macro trend still has an effect.
Who moved my cheese?
$2.50 per word? That doesn’t seem bad at all.
Quora keeps baning anything I say about h1b Indian apartheid because I oppose it
Indians are not refugees, Indians have no legal basis to be in the US, they are not american, they are not an ex colony, they are here with the single purpose of taking jobs under a fraudulent apartheid racketeering programme made especially for them
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3050365/it-careers/how-many-h-1b-workers-are-male-us-wont-say.html
Obama defending the apartheid policy of using imported guest workers to replace American workers
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O7wVsvoM6tE&feature=youtu.be
FORCE FUTURE PRESIDENT TRUMP TO ADDESS THE ISSUE INSTEAD OF EVADING IT
BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
HAVE HIM COMMIT TO CANCELING THE SILICON VALEY INDIAN MAFIA APARTHEID PROGRAMME
RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS OUT OF WORK IN EVERY STATE
250.000 IMPORTED IN ONE COMPANY IN VIRGINIA ALONE
https://www.vocativ.com/money/business/theyll-sponsor-american-dream-might-cost-soul/
Obama will not say Islamic terrorist
Trump will not say h1b Indian apartheid
Your comment is not appropriate for this particular topic. Regular readers will know I have written early and often on H-1B issues, which I agree have been until very recently glossed-over in the media. That’s exactly the gatekeeping effect I decry. But the way you are using this platform — my platform, frankly — is inappropriate, which may well be why your comments get bumped by Quora. They have to be on-topic and the topic here is neither Quora nor immigration policy. I could bump you like they do but prefer to help you understand how to behave here. Your comments are welcome if they are on the topic.
This is the biggest coverup since the third Reich, this pro h1b apartheid corporate dialog
It’s George Orwells 1984
So what sectors are affected ?
Journalism
Social networks
Propaganda
Censorship
So journalism is only one leg of the coverup
This can be seen in the fact that there is often only one point of view, and the comments if they are not deleted, they strongly contradict the propaganda, or journalistic articles
Here is Bernie denouncing h1b under bush
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38M9vfg4TPE&feature=youtu.be
Is this said now under the Obama Kerry and Hilary if she gets elected ?
Statistically you can see for example that there are no articles against h1b under LinkedIn, no criticism, and many favourable ones, and it’s the same across most social networks
The censorship statistically is much stronger against h1b than it is against anything else, that’s another give away
So I don’t think you can blame the censorship on how the anti h1b is being presented, if it does not fit the subject matter etc, it is simply being suppressed, starting with universities, all the way through the press, social media, and the Internet
By the way the pro h1b apartheid rhetoric is simply Microsoft and companions propaganda, very carefully crafted and engineered, calling all opposition very nearly hate speech, and using minorities women, gays children and anything else they can find, to justify importing hordes of Indians to replace Americans as apartheid labour, very similar to what South Africa did with the blacks, used them as guest workers and kept them segregated, the same way Indians are segregated in large groups from Americans in the workplace
The reality is importing hordes of Indians and opposing white males in the workplace in order to reduce salaries does not promote women minorities or gays, if anything it brings everyone down, lowers salaries and makes unemployment high by firing the most qualified, higher income earners, which yes happen to be male and white, but they are the ones keeping expectations and salaries high for everyone including women and minorities
When blaming white males doesn’t work, robots and computers are blamed, but robots and computers create jobs, only imported h1bs take jobs, but that does not sound as good
A book could be written on the subject, is this related to journalism? You bet, is journalism the only tool of oppression or the only people who are not doing their jobs of exposing the problem strongly enough, no
Opposition to h1b is very mild, while the defence and censorship are fierce
You can statistically prove that there is a bias against anything against h1b
You can prove from statistics that American jobs are being taken by imported Indians on apartheid h1b visas or worse
Just do a head count in the IT industry and sue by claiming out representation of the Indian population
But for political election statistics are too high brow, so build a wall sells better
As the Internet moves from web sites to LinkedIn Facebook and Quora the censorship gets worse, the same goes for Google
There is a scandal of Google suppressing anything portraying Hilary in a negative light on the search engine, but it’s far worse for h1b
So freedom of expression becomes a problem, free speech becomes a problem, exposing the h1b is becoming as hard as exposing the Jewish concentration camps, which today in some countries is a crime to deny concentration camps or slavery, but it’s not a crime to deny h1b, instead they are making it a crime to expose it, certainly very nearly so, they will label it hate speech next and put you in jail for being against it, that’s the only next logical step left, every thing else is done, accusations, intimidation, name calling, this level of censorship and oppression and manipulation does not belong in a democracy
So I don’t consider this a small thing, it’s a perfect 1984, is journalism involved ? Yes but it’s just one tool one aspect of the problem
They don’t just rely on journalism, they rely on propaganda and censorship
Books aren’t yet banned, I don’t think, but the Internet in many cases is
H1b is the best example of oppression of free speech and censorship
I’m sad that I grew up with a large number of journals, and the ones that were not pro wintel have been eliminated, a sad day for journalism and writers
So if I did complain on this forum in what appears out of context, it’s because, other avenues are being cut, but also because there is not enough opposing journalism or coverage
Under normal circumstances without such oppression and manipulation this should not be necessary
Yes many h1b articles on here are good, many articles are good and thought provoking including this one
But the articles opposing h1b are too weak and too few, and too few are doing it
Journalism one of the defenders of free speech and justice is not exposing the h1b injustice and censorship, are they the only tools or guilty ones ? No
And some of the anti h1b articles on here are very good, but far to few and far to week, in the face of the injustice, censorship and corporate propaganda
It is too complex to expose the problem in a short article completely, but the tools are the same of the third reich or 1984, and the press journalism social networks are just one of the tools
You can’t blame censorship on presentation, the censorship is far to wide spread statistically, so I don’t agree with you on that
It has not been challenged if social networks should be under corporate control or if there should be free speech because it’s a public place, this is a problem with social networks, which did not exist on web sites, except Google can still manipulate the results
By the way one of the things I like about hebdo is critical speech, the French magazine targeted in Paris
We need critical speech in America, this is sorely missing
All this censorship over what is a labour dispute, a labour dispute over apartheid is all h1b is, but you can’t call pro labour speech hate speech, any more than you can call steel, coal, or chip dumping hate speech, in this case it’s just Indian labour dumping, in the past it was Japanese chip dumping
There was an article of India forcing Apple to manufacture phones in India, so why is wanting Americans working in America instead of Indians any worse than India wanting the iPhone to be made in India ?
https://www.vocativ.com/money/business/theyll-sponsor-american-dream-might-cost-soul/
Here is Chomsky on David Ricardo illustrating why something like h1b apartheid is a misguided policy
Illustrates where some of these ideas came from and how we got to a policy of importing h1b apartheid workers in mass
https://youtu.be/fo0FpgZfuiI
He’s not listening, it’s time for the ban, or at least censorship.
I’m listening very well, no other society has labelled a labour dispute hate speech, not since the nazis has there been such censorship, you have the president calling people xenophobic, despite the fact that the president himself defends importing millions of Indian apartheid workers, working instead of Americans, this goes all the way up to the president, it’s a disgrace, never have I seen calling pro labour opposing views hate speech, which is pretty much we’re it’s getting to, the next step is to ban opposing speech, there is something wrong when an issue is censured, they used to hide black people on tv in America, now they are hiding teh Indian hub issue, disgusting, the censorship is more GRAVE than the H!B issue which is already pretty bad
This has no place in a democracy, but if you want a 1984 society without a free press and free speech go right ahead
My post was in response to Bob’s post, informing you that your posts are not relevant to the current topic. Bob’s post, addressed to you personally, is the post to which you are not listening. Not listening on purpose is synonymous with ignoring. That is also what we now know must be done with your posts.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GyoGtAohhlY
Emacs. Very interesting. Do you have a blog?
Bob I remember the good old days when we passed InfoWorld around the office and anxiously awaited to read that Cringely guy and the latest about Pam. Now I have a boatload of RSS feed chasing me around with more information than I could ever read in a day. Am I better today? No. For me journalism is about the long piece, doing a series digging into a topic. Today we are all about the snippets and writing before confirming. The 24×7 news cycle is madness.
As I write this I am following the sad story playing out in Istanbul. The death and injury counts change by the minute and stories are slapped together. The lefties and righties dig into their perspective corners and by the time the newspapers write a more in depth story no one seems to care.
I’m drifting off your point, but I’ve always thought that journalism helps filter noise and generate better stories and content where the story is followed and reported. Today the story is more like a sporting event being tweeted live.
It is quantity over quality and really pretty sad.
That is a great article you linked to. I had no idea Deming rode on the coat tails of two great people.
From the linked 4400-word article:
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“Where is quality today in American business?” Sarasohn asked, shaking his head. “It can’t be Donald Trump, can it?”
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A shiver the size of a bad toupée just ran up my spine.
I agree about the shiver. When I re-read the piece the other day I had the same experience (after 16 years I hardly remember every word) . Homer Sarasohn has been gone for several years but he was prescient.
Interesting News We Wouldn’t Normally Publish – I like that idea. I think that’s sort of what public broadcasting does. I’ve listened to or watched many interesting things from public broadcasting that I never would have encountered elsewhere.
Public broadcasting IS different. Remember this column appeared on pbs.org for 11.5 years. The difference is taking a somewhat broader view and being willing to do longer stories. One problem with the world of CNN and, frankly, Fox News is that they can have 24/7 continuous coverage of a big story but the context is too much trouble to provide if it can’t be presented in two minutes. They are good at providing data, but knowledge and understanding require digging deeper. Even here I am relied upon by readers to know what I am talking about. The only way that can be done is by staying on the story for decades, which is something few media outlets feel they can still afford to do.
I agree Bob that I’m completely sick of CNN and leave it and HN and CNBC off most of the time. Well, I do turn on CNBC on hot market days and mute the audio just looking for the stocks. I’ll unmute if a significant tech guy is on. The airport drives me crazy (and I travel a lot for my job), because it’s always on and not muted. And if I’m in an airport lounge an hour, I’ve already heard the CNN or HN story 3-4 times.
I really do appreciate magazines like the Economist, or Harvard business review, or Fast Company, where I can dig into the details and understand and process the subject, the author’s perspective and validate some of the facts on my own. I like research papers from noted intelligence folks, researchers, or industry leaders even more. Not the fluff, but the deep stuff.
CNN, CNBC, HN, Fox are really the “fast food” of news, with the same 3 meals over and over again which are calorie laden (heavy story to evoke emotion), but of no real nutritive value. The longer research papers I have read through John Mauldin and George Friedman have really dug deep into things like Islamic terrorism and I have thorough understanding of the sects and people involved, and even understand things that our government has done which have actually made the problem worse instead of better.
Just like “fast food” is ruining nutrition, “fast media” is ruining journalism. We need to read the bigger stories, dig into the data, and understand what it is telling us. The data typically “tells a story”, so you start with the data and see where the story is. But precious few people do that anymore. Just eat your McDonald’s and watch your CNN and you will be “just fine”…. Good Luck with That!
Great article and great answer, Bob. The ahistoricism of the myth of impartial, altruistic media is worth repeating. That said, if the dispatches over the ages from imperial Rome (and their authors) were as corrupted by denarii and self-alienated in their own aspirational bubbles as the Professional Credentialled Philosopher-Kings, I meant journalist-commentators who write the papers of “record” today, The Mess We Are All In becomes rather clearer.
It’s a mess, but when it comes to commentators, the mess may not be quite as bad as it used to be. Columnists and opinion writers like me will always be around but I think today we have less power than we used to. I used to work for Stewart Alsop, whose father and uncle were columnists in the 1950s and 60s who literally helped write US government policy. We don’t have a Walter Lippman today (though plenty of wannabe Liptons) and that’s good. But still it’s hard to introduce a new topic and make it stick. I figured out what was happening with IBM, for example, back in 2007. How long did it take the rest of the media to even start to see it? It took a decade. The linked story about Homer Sarasohn is more a feature than a column, has been read by hundreds of thousands of people, but hasn’t yet really become any part of the Deming lore. Nor do people even get the key issue of Japanese quality — that it only became engrained when their only other option was total defeat. Understand that and you’ll understand more about Japanese industry than you’ll find in any textbook.
One of my mentors earlier in my career was the former CIO of Cambell Foods, Leon Pritzker. He followed Deming to Japan and learned and taught quality control and the then “American” methods to the Japanese in the 1950’s and 1960’s before returning home to America. He was a disciple of Deming, and believed in his work. He was successful in Japan, then successful in America after he returned. It wasn’t about the “flash” or the “new hot thing”, but about making what they had a little bit better each month, each quarter, each year until all of those “little betters” added up to a whole lot better.
He’s nowhere in the history books, but he did teach me.
“Nor do people even get the key issue of Japanese quality — that it only became engrained when their only other option was total defeat.”
This gives me hope for the future of America because, as Winston Churchill is alleged to have said, “Americans always do the right thing. After all other possibilities are exhausted.”
Bob, do you think the adage that you need “1000 rabid fans” to at least make a living in creative industries is still true?
I have been reading your column since 1985, when my high school vocational computer programming course used to get InfoWorld every week. I suspect there are quite a number of us who have been reading you for that long… is your audience that hard to mobilize? Couldn’t new avenues like Kickstarter be a way to get stories told that you think are important?
Oh, and as a former IBM employee (I left in 2000), your IBM articles convinced me to sell off my IBM stock several years ago – a good move in hindsight. Thank you for that. Though I suspect you would have much preferred IBM upper management revitalize the company and return closer to its roots rather than gut the whole place.
Journalism is so important to a democracy… It’s hard to imagine one without the other. Sure hope we can figure this out.
Aspiring to “impartiality” and achieving it are obviously not the same thing. However, I think it bears mentioning that the Society of Professional Journalists has existed for over 100 years, its advent closely following the heydey of yellow journalism. This organization has a code of ethics any attentive consumer will see violated repeatedly on any given day. (The AMA has a code of ethics, too…)
Does >100 constitute a “tradition” of impartiality? Dunno. But it at least proves that today’s issues have long been a subject of concern to the industry, regardless of how frequently inadequate their efforts turn out to be.
https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp
I just read your 4400 word blog post. I loved the line:
“Where is quality today in American business?” Sarasohn asked, shaking his head. “It can’t be Donald Trump, can it?”.
Prescient.
That article on quality is excellent and actually touches the current state of American Business. For that matter this post sort of asks the same question: who are you and why are you doing what you do? I think that all too many people end with: for the money. Which in many ways is the wrong answer. If company leadership doesn’t understand anything other than pushing tokens around then all the way downstream, it’s not going to end well. There’s more to business than simple stupid greed and greed doesn’t last very long anyway.
“The Bubble-headed Bleach Blonde comes on at 5, tells you about the plane crash with a ‘gleam’ in her eye. It’s interesting when people die! Give us dirty laundry! (Kick ‘Em when they’re up, Kick ‘Em when they’re down)” — Don Henley Dirty Laundry
Fundamentally, the news business is about telling a story, purported to be true, which is interesting enough for people to read. I have followed Bob Cringely since InfoWorld, which is a long-gone weekly paper about the IT industry that I received for free most of the time I worked for a big company in the 1980’s and 1990’s.
Honestly, I embellished my status at my company to InfoWorld “a bit” to get the paper. But it really did keep me current on things, and towards the end of my stay there, I probably was really influencing purchases at the company as much as I was telling them I was. And I know there were “multiple” Bob Cringelys during that time. I could tell when the author changed.
I think the “most interesting” stories are the ones which probably have some truth in them, but are allowed to be fictionally exaggerated for emphasis, like The Wolf of Wall Street. I watch Blacklist, because in some way, I’m willing to accept Blacklist’s narrative of competing “cabals” trying to run the government over what I see in the press (and don’t accept at face value). Because if competing “cabals” are not trying to run our government, the alternative seems to be much worse, just chaos being covered up to appear that we are an organized “well run” society.
But, fundamentally, we all believe some media outlet’s truth, and act on what we see and hear (whether it’s Fox, or CNBC, or Bloomberg, or ABC, or CBS, or Mother Jones).
I reserve the word “journalist” for those people who really work and research their story, who really dig in and get the facts. And those are the best stories, the ones which are too terrible or bizarre to be true, but which really are. Spotlight was an exceptional movie on the “journalism” that went into exposing the child abuse by priests in the Catholic church and the extent of it’s cover-up. Those guys had to really get their facts straight, and they did.
I think the problem here is that is is VERY EASY to have a blog. It’s very easy to believe that anyone gives a crap about what we write. And the only way you really know is from the feedback you receive.
So, Bob, here 20+ years later, I’m still reading your stuff. There is maybe one other Infoworld columnist that I still follow, and he’s not even “really” in the business anymore. He’s back at the part of Dell that used to be Perot Systems, and he taught me to take my head out of the code and understand the politics of what was going on around me. Robert “Go from Career Is Over to Change Is Outstanding” Lewis.
I write a couple of blogs, one of which is a narrowly focused, long-tail blog on the Internet in Cuba.
Much of what I write is either slightly “re-purposed” or even copied word for word on large-circulation Web sites. (See this post for some examples: http://cis471.blogspot.com/2015/09/is-internet-news-inevitably.html).
I discover these rip offs because they are surfaced by Google News or Google Alerts. I applied to register my blog with Google News, but was (automatically?) rejected.
Google could easily catch these copies — the blog is on their platform, Blogger, but they make more when my posts are copied by large-circulation sites. (I get about 1,000 page views per day).
One day, I will burn out and the long tail will be a little shorter.
Is Internet news inevitably concentrated and redundant?
Anybody with a connection can be a Genuine Internet Journalist! the bare, stripped definition of a journalist is one who journals, writes the day’s stuff down. doesn’t mean you need a degree, or a SPJ or SigmaChi credential, or a Police Press Pass in East Blunderburg. many of our greatest journalists in history just had a press, or access to a space on one, and got followed.
many more, like pioneer editors in two-paper territories who scourged the opposition, spewed more poison than the “engineer division” pumping gas over the trenches in World War I. but the drunks liked it, until somebody pulled a fifth ace.
the benchmarks are,these days, the New York Times and the Washington Post. they screw things up as well, but print corrections, usually in the same section. they got there because of standards, enterprise reporting, and putting supposition and opinion in signed columns.
if the product you are reading does not signify that it is commentary, but offers lots, you better not believe it until there are other sources that back it up from reputable submitters.
sadly, almost nobody pays any attention to the quality of the writing/typing/dictation that is out there now. so a pinhead blowhard can raise an unwarranted amount of dust about lots of things that didn’t happen, and never will.
if we had better civics education, kids would get introduced to judgement of quality /vs/ nonsense early enough to practice it regularly.
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a big difference between now and the newspaper age is government and large institutions are so much more influential nowadays. CBS or the NY Times were dominate in the 1960s but they or other journalists could not flood the country with migrants or shutdown the coal industry or warp the banking industry.and money supply.
Now a days instead of having critical thinking, you just label the oposition hate speech “racist” etc to shut down all opposition to labour dumping or dumping in general
What a change from the 70’s where you could discuss issues
I think people have forgotten how to debate and have critical thinking
Instead they just insult each other
This was not like this before, you could not silence someone with insults instead of debate
Also no one including the politicians are accountable in the US
Unlike Europe where the government can change if people are unhappy
People have slightly more power in Europe as brexit has proven
The knee jerk reaction today when you have no arguments is acusatuions of hate speech and insults
This is even at the presidential level now, when you can silence people you don’t have a free society, and the press is almost silent, everything is screened, you don’t have spontaneous questions, it’s all orchestrated, many topics are not debated, instead you have false issues of no consequence as fillers
Article complaining about censorship on the Internet and more, so I’m not alone, there are many examples, I’m not the only one with complaints, if people can’t trust the journalists and media they will stop listening
https://www.ctn-politics.com/censoring-reality-how-google-and-facebook-have-silenced-the-american-people-from-the-truth/
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Journalism is about exposing censorship, investigating what’s going on, revealing what is going on, not being a propaganda machine for corporations and government, these thechnology aspects of using technology for coverups, political h1b etc should have been revealed in this column, now even the general public is noticing
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Appreciate the brief but illuminating history of journalism, and do appreciate your defense of the ‘long tail’ piece–whether on a blog, or in old-school investigative writing.
It’s what I do, and what I am drawn to!
And agree that the ‘returns’ on the longer, more thoughtful pieces are often more than they first appear to be.
For this topic go and read Frederic Filloux at https://mondaynote.com/@filloux
very, very deep analysis of trends in modern day journalism and technology impact on it.
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