Today is my 60th birthday. When I came to Silicon Valley I was 24. It feels at times like my adult life has paralleled the growth and maturation of the Valley. When I came here there were still orchards. You could buy cherries, fresh from the fields, right on El Camino Real in Sunnyvale. Apricot orchards surrounded Reid-Hillview Airport in San Jose, where I flew in those early days because hangars were already too expensive in Palo Alto. My first Palo Alto apartment rented for $142 per month and I bought my first house there for $47,000. I first met Intel co-founder Bob Noyce when we were both standing in line at Wells Fargo Bank.
Those days are gone.
But that is not to say that these days are worse.
For almost 36 years people have been asking me when was the best time to start a company and my answer has always been the same: right now. New technologies have yielded opportunities we could never have imagined and along the way lowered the cost of entry to the point where anyone with a good idea and a willingness to take risks has a chance to make it big.
These are the good old days.
And so it is time for me to move forward with my life and my so-called career. As a guy with three sons ages 10, 8, and 6, you see, my devil sperm has provided me the opportunity to work until I die. Or more properly it has determined that I must work until I am at least 76, when my last kid graduates from college. Whichever comes first.
A year ago I forecast my own retirement of sorts and so I’m here today to explain better what that means, because it certainly doesn’t mean I’ll stop working or that I’ll even go away.
Blogging no longer works for me as a career. As I’ve explained before, declining ad rates have led to this being no longer a viable occupation, at least for me. So while I’m not going completely away I have to assume even more duties which will limit, somewhat, my presence here. I hope you’ll understand.
One thing I am about to do is write a book — a very serious book for a very real publisher who has written a very substantial check with the assumption that I’ll deliver 120,000 words a year from today. I have to get it finished soon, you see, before book publishing dies in turn.
Then I have a new startup company — The Startup Channel — which I hope you’ll hear more of in coming weeks. We’re about to close our seed round and if we don’t then I’ll just pay for the thing myself, it’s that good an idea. I’m open to investment proposals, by the way, but only accredited investors need apply, sorry (that’s the law).
So what happens here at I Cringely? Later this week we’ll begin in this space the serialization of my book Accidental Empires, that became the basis of my PBS TV series Triumph of the Nerds. With your help we’ll follow that serialization with a new annotated edition in both print and eBook versions that I hope will become a new classic in its own right.
If some company or organization would like to be the single name sponsor of this serialization (there will only be one sponsor), let me know. The entire event will take eight weeks involving daily posts with a total of somewhere between 10 million and 25 million readers. I am not making this up. If you want to reach that sort of audience for not much money and can be polite while doing so, then please get in touch with me. I don’t need an advertiser to do this, but it would open up some promotional possibilities we’d otherwise forego.
We’ll follow Accidental Empires with more serializations of books derived and updated from the million+ words I’ve written both here and previously on pbs.org, having obtained from PBS the rights to those earlier columns. While these will be derivative works they’ll include substantial new material and, again, the final eBooks will include contributions from you, the readers.
Cringely Media will publish seven eBooks in all during 2013.
I’ll continue to blog here as often as I can, though mainly about startups, somewhat like I did a few years ago when my startup was Home-Account.com and the topics were mortgages and economics.
So you’ll see more of me and less. I’ll be working harder than ever. But why not? There’ s plenty still to be done and I don’t feel a day over 59.
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday, Bob! May all your endeavours bring you and your family wealth, happiness and joy!
Happy birthday, Bob!
Looking forward for what’s to come for your readers!
Happy birthday, Mr Cringely. Please continue being awesome.
Happy birthday, Mark, (ahem, “Bob”)! I beat you to the big six-oh by six months. Like you, I have been involved in the industry since the mid seventies and I’ve enjoyed your work since the old Infoworld days. I wish you success in this new endeavor, and will participate in the update of the “Accidental Empires” project.
Regards, Jerry
Happy Birthday and many more! Looking forward to reading/experiencing more Cringely in all its various forms.
Do you still do any flying? I’ve been following your stuff a long time but somehow I missed that one …
Happy Birthday! I’m glad to hear that you will still be blogging in some way or another. I’ve enjoyed reading your columns for years now. Many of the things you were talking about over a decade ago inspired me to start a business (a wireless ISP in rural municipality). What fun days! You and I never had the opportunity to speak personally on the phone (we tried), but we did exchange a few emails about wireless networking back then. As far as I know, I was the first person in the USA to setup a commercially viable mesh network. Like I said, what fun days and thanks again for being a voice of inspiration!!
Happy Birthday!
I always think of you as a young guy because I remember you as the host of Triumph of the Nerds-
a few years ago.
Happy birthday, Mark.
Bobby X, you’re a sell out and will be forgotten the second you stop blogging. Say goodbye to being relevant. Good riddance!
I also want my lollypop.
But there’s no need to be an ass about it.
Happy trails.
Lighten up buddy, Bob’s first responsibility is to the support of his family and how he goes about that is his business.
I for one have been a reader for decades and will miss his blogging phase but wish him all the best in his future endeavours, and if he chooses to share with us along the way all the better.
@BobRuub – i couldn’t agree more, I am hoping that Bobby Alpaca was being all post-modern mock ironic but it’s so hard to tell.
When you write a book as insightful and interesting as Accidental Empires the likelihood of being forgotten the way many bloggers are in an instant is beyond unlikely. Never mind that, the chances of a man who has posted daily for thirty years stopping completely is even more unlikely anyway!
Go Bob!
Happy birthday Bob.
I wish you could find a way to monetize your crazy hair-brained schemes like going to the moon, build a battery-powered commuter plane, a tricorder for small children, raise kids and write this column.
Happy bday Bob. Been a loyal reader for decades now and have hard and soft cover copies of Accidental Empires. Love your work and look forward to this new “chapter” in your life.
Bob, you’re the greatest. And, we’ll be following right along too, as we have all these years. Keep going!!!
Happy birthday and many happy returns Bob! Loved the first edition of Accidental Empires and will definitely buy the annotated/updated edition.
Happy 60th Bob and best of luck with your publishing venture
Happy Birthday, We’ll all be looking for what every you turn out.
Happy Birthday. May you have many more, Youngster. Looking forward to the publications.
Happy birthday! I’m seven years your elder. For the past 5 years I’ve be an adjunct professor in college teaching film and TV courses. If you want to see how quickly technology really progress go into a college class and talk about “film”, “negatives”, AC current, tungsten, even, yes even “stereo”. My students don’t lack intelligence, but when all they need to do is swipe a finger across their iPhone or iPad, who cares about binary, programming, and how it all works. Fortran? Just wait ’til you’re 67. 🙂
I’m also 67. Speaking of students, remember the North East blackout of the 60s? Our engineering college had to have a special assembly to explain how the grid works to students who took electric power for granted. But everyone knew about Fortran. Now it seems the greatest danger to the power system is politics, regulation, and well-meaning attempts at conservation.
As an even older guy still consulting in the power industry, I’d say the danger is still the same – under-investment in transmission. Much of increased regulation is attempting to compensate for a fragile system at lower cost than building robustness. So, we tread close to the edge of chaos more often. That will work fine right up until it doesn’t.
How about building something totally new that the regulators and the people can understand. Let’s include a fiber optic cable in every transmission line and tell them it’s the only way the will ever get fiber to the home so they can enjoy Netflix. Obviously no one else is going to do the fiber part, let alone the power part.
Having worked briefly at CAISO, I’d say the greatest danger is the time bombs surreptitiously planted in our infrastructure by foreign governments.
I feel like chiming in here too. I remember my first engineering job in a chemical company. Chemical processes can be very dangerous and the industry invested heavily in finding was to control them and keep them safe. It was very difficult to access our control systems from the company’s internal network and almost impossible from the outside world. It was then I learned the most secure computer is one that is isolated from the outside world. This was before the days of professional hackers and the company knew that if there was the slightest chance someone could get into the control systems, it was too great of a risk.
While this made things inconvenient to me, there was wisdom in the policy. Later when I went into IT those lessons made me see corporate networks in a different light. Why should ATM networks have any connectivity to or access to the Internet? Why should the systems the control power grids and utilities have any connectivity to or access to the Internet?
Think about it. The Internet is a tool to share information and to communicate with each other. Is there anything on a process control computer, or an ATM network, or a power grid control system, or a utility control system that needs to be shared with the outside world? Is there any need for the outside world to communicate with them?
Things change. It is important we always keep an open mind and ask questions. There are reasons for doing things a certain way. The technology may change, but the need to protect (and isolate) it remains. If you don’t look deeper you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. I’ve been in IT long enough to see it is a profession that constantly makes the same mistakes over and over again.
Happy Birthday Bob! Hope your writing brings you satisfaction and wealth. In whichever order you prefer.
Happy Birthday and God Bless!! Thanks for the straight talk 😉 Wish you much future success.
Happy birthday Bob… I hope to see you around for the next 60 at least… The world need more people like you. God Bless you my friend!
See you at 120 Cringely! Always look forward to your articles.
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Cumpleaños feliz
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Happy Birthday! Best of luck with future endeavors. If you write it, I will read it. Thanks for providing interesting food for thought for so many years.
Happy Birthday! Can we see a birth certificate 😉
I truly enjoy your blog, articles, insight and reporting. I look forward to seeing your name in my inbox and what insight you may bring to my modern world. GOD Bless and all the best. -Your Car Dealer
For those who wonder, I bought my wife’s Volve XC90 from Rob via eBay. What I’ll do to get a new reader! The Volvo is running like a top.
I didn’t know you were in the market for a car!!! I had a very used 1989 Buick. Each of our 4 kids learned to drive with it. In just a few short years your boys will be learning to drive and will need a car. Think about that — teaching your boys to drive in your 60’s. You’ll be close to 70 when you’re teaching Fallon.
Happy Birthday, Bob! It’s mine as well today, though I am turning 40 🙂
” I’m open to investment proposals, by the way, but only accredited investors need apply, sorry (that’s the law).”
But not for long…
It will take longer than you think. JOBS Act crowd funding for equity looks to me like a 2014 story. I’ll be writing about this soon.
And it will likely be the next major fraud. Not requiring investors to be accredited is just a few steps removed from the make-money-fast emails.
Sounds like you got it right. Even though you don’t say much your family comes first! Blessings for your wife as I’m sure she has much to do with that. I enjoy the columns, even when I don’t completely understand them.
Thanks
Happy Birthday Bob, and many more (at least 16, lol)
Perhaps IBM will pick up your options.
regards,
Jim
Thanks for the years of blog posts, bold insight, willing admissions of error, and occasional if unintentional investment advice.
Happy birthday; may you enjoy many of them as my Granny would say
Bob,
Happy birthday to you and Cringley 3.0. I’m still working at 73 and having a lot of fun — I’m sure you will too. I’ve been a fan since Infoworld — keep us posted on the new venture!
I’ve always thought you had a good screen presence. How about a documentary about TMI or energy in general? Or shining your outsider-insider light on the closed and insular world of general aviation?
TV doesn’t seem to work that way anymore. I just can’t do a show. But there are still possibilities and I’ll have one of those to announce soon.
Congratulations Bob! There’s been a lot of water that’s run under the bridge since we first met since Three Mile Island. At 60 we don’t get old, we get better at doing start ups because we’re wiser!
Yadhtrib Yppah
Happy Birthday, Bob. At 60, you’re still a youngster. There’s lots of life left to enjoy.
You are a treasure Bob, and I wish the very best of luck going forward.
Who would want to retire anyway?
Get a book into the Kindle store and I promise to buy a copy.
Michael.
Best of luck. I just retired this past November (57) and felt the same way about my personal career seeming to surf the crest of IT as it moved from mainframes, to personal computers, to networking, then enterprise.
I decided to pack my bags after IT got moved under Finance (about 5 years ago) and MBAs began mistaking ticket counts and overly-complex processes for customer satisfaction (your IBM series is exactly what is happening in “The Fed”).
You’ve been a great resource all these years and I think a portion of why I was able to stay on the wave as long as I did.
Happy birthday Bob! I have been reading your writing for I think ten years, from when you were about 50. I have benefitted greatly from this and wish to thank you and wish you well.
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Happy 60th Birthday Bob,
I hope you’ll never really grow up!
I wish you many many healthy years and all the best of luck in your endeavors.
Looking forward to all your new works,
Anthony
The Netherlands
Happy Birthday – will follow all the new adventures closely. Always entertaining, educational and a fun read!
Congratulations !!! Made 61 myself end last year. After 42 years of being employed (three companies), I was fired last year because the Swedish mother-company moved the software production to China. I always want to start my own company, so I am in that process right now. Will not be in the book-writing area so you do not have to fear for competition 😉
My very best wishes, Bob. I can’t tell you how I’ll miss your sage observations. It’s gratifying to learn, by the way, that with kids of 10, 8, and 6, you must have got started aged 50, just as I did last year. My nipper’s 10 months old now and, although I’ve adapted well to the world of overloaded nappies and saturated bibs, I am suffering from a slipped disc which is hell and I bet it wouldn’t have happened 20 years ago. It’s encouraging to see that you’re still going strong 10 years later and that you’ve even been crazy enough to have two more. Believe me, I’m just sticking to one sprog at my age.
(Since the comment button seems to have disappeared, I’m piggybacking on David’s comment.)
Happy Birthday, Bob!
Happy birthday, Bob. You beat me by two and a half months. I have two kids ages 11 and 6, so I guess we have a long working life ahead of us. 🙂
Why isn’t Cringely rich? I’ve been wondering about this for a long time and this seems like an appropriate time to ask. He’s a best-selling author, has connections to the smartest and richest founders in Silicon Valley, and has started numerous ventures over the years as we’ve read about in his columns. So what gives — why isn’t he rich?
I’m not talking about a million or two. Even Detroit auto workers and government bureaucrats can sock away a million by age 60. I’m asking why he’s not super rich. We know he’s not super rich because he toured the country in a *van* when he was interviewing startup founders.
Is it the case that writing really does not pay well? Even when you’re a best-seller and a household name among programmers and computer geeks?
Bob may not (he might be, we do not know) be rich because I think he has probably burnt a lot of bridges. I enjoy his columns and have followed him for the last fifteen years. He is good but a little humility goes a long way. I have seen him in cross panel talks where he comes across as arrogant. Even his column here and some of his responses to his readers comments are cocky at times. I suspect John C Dvorak is rich beacuse he has been able to do the same thing as Bob does and hold a Job.
Good Luck to you Bob.
Many people worked in SV over the decades but only very few got rich.
Have we considered that he may not want to be rich? The most unhappy man I know is independently wealthy. He has few friends, due largely to what amounts to jealousy, has no incentive to work, and has lost himself in overeating and bedriddance. Kermit may know it ain’t easy being green, but mo’ money mo’ problems; wealth is just a bitch. Besides, how accessible do you think he’d be as a reporter and a writer for the backbroken geeks of the land if we knew him to be rich? If I were him, I’d either avoid wealth or keep it hidden.
Happy birthday. I’m another old guy with young kids who plans on working until they’re done with college. I’m wondering whether you’ve thought about doing a Kickstarter or similar sort of crowd-funded effort to get the extra possibilities funded. I do realize it’s a lot of effort to run one, but since you’re already planning to produce annotated e-books and such you might be able to set these up as rewards for backers. I’m not sure what amount of money you need, but it’s a thought – worth what you paid for it.
Happy birthday you young whippersnapper!
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Your column in the printed Infoworld was one of the first things I turned to when that newspaper made its way around the office. Happy birthday. I still have some of your choice internet columns on paper in a file at my desk, so the person who inherits my desk when I retire can see some of the things that were going on in those days.
Happy Birthday!
First, Happy Birthday.
Did you know your birthday is on the same day as “National Bubble Wrap Appreciation Day?” Strange, but true. It is also “Data Privacy Day.”
John
Happy Birthday
And, man a book and a startup and a blog. Are you sure you are as old as you claim or just plain old cr….
Good luck
This article made my day. I’m 52 with 3 boys ages 10, 10, and 12. I was feeling old until I read this.
Congrats! And looking forward to your continuing journey! All the best!
Happy 60th Birthday Bob! Have been a loyal reader nearly as long as you’ve been publishing. Closing in on 60 myself and bondering thenext phase of my life. Please keep us posted on your new experiences and challenges as you move forward. We’ve never met but you feel like an old friend. Don’t be a stranger!
Happy birthday and good luck on the new book venture.
Happy birthday, Bob. Whenever I think I’m too old to have ten year olds (I was 42 when mine were born), I think of you with admiration.
Happy Birthday!
Dude, you totally outlasted Spencer Katt. I remember those days, cause I was there. The 3rd COMDEX, when it was small. Then with AST, then with Quarterdeck… Got your mug, your t-shirt, and have three years seniority to boot. Happy Bday from another wizened veteran who, like you, is still toiling away with a start-up.
Hey, Charley, long time no see!
Mac McCarthy, formerly Infoworld
Happy Birthday and Good Luck Bob!
Happy (late) birthday! I’ve enjoyed your posts over the years, look forward to seeing more (when you can).
Looks like we share a birthday! So its happy birthday to you and happy birthday to me.
Happy Birthday, Bob and thanks for your observations and analysis! I look forward to reading your new books.
Good luck with your future endeavors.
David
Happy birthday bob!, now i know three very nice and smart people who have birtday on the jan. 28th!!! Thanks for all the columns!!!
Happy Birthday Bob and good luck in the new ventures. I really wish you had the rights to your old columns that included Pammy. Those stories would make a great graphic novel.
Happy birthday, Mark!
Happy birthday Bob!
Obviously you have a publishing deal already for your proper book, but in terms of the serialization of your book into ebooks, have you considered publishing them in-progress on Leanpub before the finished versions are done? (I’m Leanpub’s cofounder.) It’s a great way to get buzz and feedback before launching finished versions, we pay 90% – 50 cents royalty, you write in Markdown, and publish new versions with one click.
If you have any questions please email me.
Thanks
Peter
Happy birthday and the best in your new endeavors. I’ve enjoyed reading your columns since I started in IT back in 1978.
Cheers on the big 60, Bob II.
I’m a longtime fan from InfoWorld days. Speaking of which, how old would Pammy be now ( oops, does your wife know of her ) ?
Regards bob
Big fan for many years Cringe. Good luck with the book. Respect.
Happy Birthday!!! I collect signed first editions books! When I buy a first edition, can I please post it to you for you to sign (and include a postage paid return envelope).
p.s. I’m also a good proof reader.
Twumasi, good sir, I trust you are many things, but a good proofreader (one word) you are not. I count six errors in your 39 words.
I programmed my first computer (an IBM 1130) in 1969 and have enjoyed Robert X Cringely ever since (no matter who it was behind the name). Being on the East coast, the computer revolution was different then it was on the West coast. I Have your book (Accidental Empires) and have reread it a few times (my only regret was not getting a chance to have you sign it when you were in Boston). Whatever you do in the future, I will be a follower.
Happy Birthday Bob!
I’ve been reading your blog since the late nineties and while I’m sorry to hear you are reducing your output, I wish you the very best in your new venture.
Good Luck.
Keep thinking. That’s the best gift you can give yourself. Sharing those thoughts with us is a derivative benefit that can rightly be considered a gift. Thanks!
Any update on what’s happening with NerdTV? Wasn’t the long-lost second season eventually supposed to be available from YouTube or some similar video-streaming site?
Happy birthday Bob!
I will turn 52 in May. Let me say that in addition to loving your columns, discovering Accidental Empires, loving the video incarnation Triumph of the Nerds, and enjoying Plane Crazy, etc. you have given me an area of reassurance to turn to wrt fatherhood. My wife and I had a tragedy with our first daughter shortly before she was born. (One of those mean sucker punches that medical tech can only find if it knows to look.) We made our way through that.
We now have two boys and they just turned 5 and 2. (Using your numbers I’ll be 72 when the youngest graduates college.) 🙂
I can honestly say you have made wonderful contribution to tech writing and you’ve inspired me in many different areas. I don’t have to tell you your on the right path. And don’t let anyone else tell you different!
Thank you for everything you’ve done!
Russ
Happy Birthday Bob!
I’ve been reading your column about as long as I’ve been using the internet, and it’s continually fascinating, refreshing, challenging, interesting and informative. Good luck with all the new initiatives
Happy Birthday Bob, thank you for your wonderful series Triumph of the Nerds that gave me a great enthusiasm for the computer industry when I was young. It has given me a good job and a massive amount of education since then, I owe much of this to your introduction. Thank you again.
Happy Bob!
I have been following you for many years. Always interesting.
Thanks for the good times.
Happy Birthday! Followed your posts every since I first saw Triumph of the Nerds and bought the Tapes from pbs. Thanks for all the great articles.
May you enjoy another 60 !
My father arrived in Silicon Valley just about the same time you did. He used to talk about looking out his office window, in the Stanford University research park, and watching sheep grazing. I haven’t been to that area for quite a while, but I bet there no sheep around now.
Happy Birthday Bob! I’ve enjoyed the columns since the InfoWorld days. I’ve enjoyed the occasional correspondence. I’m looking forward to the serials and whatever else you give us.
Happy birthday, Bob!
I was a year ahead of you four days ago. It’s been an exciting age to be alive, and it is getting better. I have worked in tech starting in wafer fabs in the early 70’s – 1 inch, 8 transistors, and everything by hand and the seat of the pants. Programming 8 bit computers, online at 300 baud, working with knowledge based systems and Lisp etc. etc. – a kick and a grind as well.
Having kids this young takes courage, mine are in college now. But I would never consider cruising through life without that continuity.
The best is yet to come!
Happy birthday, Bob, and God bless you — I just turned 60 a few months ago, and I just couldn’t get my head around having such young children. I hope it keeps you young, too. BTW, it’s been my personal observation over the years that the veracity of a report is almost never reinforced by adding the sentence, “I am not making this up.”
“I am not making this up.” Perhaps Bob says that to differentiate it from other columns where he doesn’t say it. 🙂
Nah, I don’t agree, Tom C. It often highlights a remark that might fly by, or emphasize that something is not an exaggeration.
Best wishes, Bob.
Seems like I’ve been reading you forever. Thanks for the many insights; sometimes on target, always thought provoking. And your commenters are the best.
The kids, the wife and the work will keep you young. Being sixty doesn’t hurt a bit. The greying guy in the mirror can be disquieting, but you are only as old as you fe… well, let’s not go there.
Exciting times. You’ll do well, I’m sure. Tell us more about the book!
Good luck.
Cringely, 60 is nothing. I was still playing in squash tournaments, and thinking my back problems were temporary.
The flow of technology doesn’t always make sense to me. I said “what time is it?” to my grand nephew, who is starting his first job Tuesday, fresh out of school. (CBS Sports Online) He had to pull his cell phone out of his pocket. All I had to do was turn my wrist upright. He said, “nobody has watches any more.”
With Everyday Edisons on public television and Shark Tank on commercial television, is there room for a third startup type show? Or will your show be significantly different from those two?
Glad to hear you’re planning to continue working on, and I look forward to your occasional blog and other media releases.
The good old days in Sunnyvale.. the sweet smell coming from the Del monte canning plant at night.
Those were the good old days! but today, not so sweet smell as we once had… I lived not so far from
cringley in Sunnyvale.
Happy Birthday from all your UK fans.
Been watching and reading you for many years nee decades and although not always agreeing with you at least finding your musings thought provoking.
Good luck with your many projects and hope to read and enjoy your adventures.
A suggestion. You could start a Kickstarter campaign. I know there’s plenty of readers that would like for you to succeed. I read your column from time to time and enjoy your unique point of view, of your insight, of how you perceive the Tech Industry.
I like the personal stories and connections that you introduce through your own personal experiences. You’re the Real Deal! Best of Success on your upcoming Achievements. I’m a Fan!
Happy Birthday, Bobby!
And many, many, many, many, more!!
Happy belated Birthday Bob.
I have been reading your column since the early nineties, back when your Infoworld “Notes from the Field” was included in Computing SA, a weekly IT newspaper here in South Africa.
I have always enjoyed your writing and did not enjoy your retirement post last year. I am pleased to read that you will still be around for some time to come.
Good luck with all of your endeavours, I hope you hit the “big one” soon.
Happy birthday, Bob, and good luck on the new ventures!
Happy Birthday Bob ! I’ve been a fan since Triumph of the Nerds. I just got done watching “Steve Jobs – The Lost Interview” on Netflix. It was great, Thank you for bringing that to us. Good luck with your new ventures.
Pat
Happy Birthday Bob
Like a lot of readers been following you since Infoworld.
All the best for the upcoming ventures
Craig