“The only thing worse than being talked about,” said Oscar Wilde, “is not being talked about.” That has until recently applied in spades to Steve Jobs of Apple, a guy who, when I’ve interviewed him, has always asked what other people have said about him, “especially the bad stuff.”
Steve is a guy who likes being talked about. He likes it so much, in fact, that he’s adopted a strategy to encourage it. This strategy involves very carefully doling-out bits of himself to the press not in an effort to discourage coverage, really, but to ENcourage it by limiting the supply. Like everything else about Steve it is brilliant and cold.
This was the case until Steve Jobs got sick, of course, at which point he went from skillfully managing the press to just as skillfully avoiding it. I wonder why? What did he have to fear about the world knowing he’d been ill? It’s probably just an artifact of his obsessive need to control.
Whatever the reason, ever since his bout with pancreatic cancer in 2004, Steve and his Apple minions have tried valiantly to keep his health condition out of the news, citing it as a “private matter.”
Except of course it isn’t a private matter at all. Steve is the CEO of Apple, Apple is an enormous publicly-held company, and many Apple investors are onboard (or remain onboard) specifically because of their confidence in Steve as a sort of high tech rainmaker. This is a concept that over time Jobs and Apple have done absolutely nothing to discourage or dispel. And so now I (and the SEC from what I hear) believe Steve and Apple have to live with it.
Steve Jobs’ health is material to Apple and to Apple shareholders. To say that having taken a six-month leave of absence changes that would be wrong. What WOULD change that would be Jobs’ resignation, which he hasn’t yet given to the Apple board. As long as Steve is still intending to return to Apple, his health is material to the company and should be disclosed.
Whatever Apple claims about privacy and however much whining and threatening Steve does to reporters by e-mail and phone, his condition remains squarely on the table, hot and steaming and ready to be served-up, as it should be.
Maybe he wants it that way. Maybe this is just more of the same limiting supply to increase demand. It’s possible but I simply don’t know.
Now look, we’re nine paragraphs into this story and I’m finally getting to the lead, which should have been in the first graf. But by now you understand why I have to do it this way, because you don’t give out unseemly news (at least I don’t give out unseemly news) without putting it in some proper context. The eight grafs above explain why I feel it is important to say that Steve Jobs has stopped using his computer.
Huh?
Steve Jobs has stopped using his computer. He’s off curing himself of something he won’t name and in some manner we can’t know but I CAN tell you right now it doesn’t involve using his computer.
A friend of mine has for years been one of Steve Jobs’ Internet chat buddies. And as such his chat client has – again for years – shown as Steve came online each day and remained there for hours and hours as you’d expect a Silicon Valley mogul to do. And it’s a trend that continued well past Jobs’ announcement that he was taking a six-month leave of absence to get well. But then Steve started logging-on less and less. And several weeks ago he stopped logging-on at all.
Silence.
No big deal, right? He’s off the clock; Cook and Schiller are fighting for the tiller; Apple’s in good hands; who cares?
Anyone cares who actually expects Steve Jobs to return to Apple.
Sorry Bob – I don’t see what business this is of yours, or mine, or anyone’s. Frankly this post smacks of self-aggrandisement. We know he’s going into surgery or treatment of some kind. Just let it be. If you’re an Apple stock-holder all the more reason. You’ve been a journo for long enough to know the power you yeild and the damage you can do. Just chill out a little please. I’m more than a little disappointed.
My word. You’re all the biggest bunch of cry babies I’ve ever seen. Yes, his health is our business. Steve Jobs IS Apple, and if you deny that, you’re a fucking moron. That’s all there is to it.
Actually Bob should know by now that Steve is in Serbia (not Syria).
He changed his chat neme.
He delisted your source’s user ID.
He decided to stop logging on to the chat network, but still use his computer.
You are saying that none of these things is possible? Not even worth mentioning in the article?
I thought journalists were supposed to be able to separate facts from speculation. You present your speculation as a fact. It was good of you to mention that you only have one source though. That’s another thing journalists aren’t supposed to do, publish a story with only one source.
seriously. wtf? an article about steve jobs health and how somehow you people are like drooling over it…. get a fucking life and let the guy life, or be sick, who the fuck cares
Douche,
Please do not reply in the tone that you just used. This may be a public forum and everyone welcomes your intuitive genius, you are not allowed to speak in that kind of language, ever.
If you do not like Bob’s posts or his column, then move on and read someone else’s like – gasp – Dvorak’s rants. You certainly took time to read Bob’s SJ observations and even wrote your lovely piece here. Please be more creative next time.
Robert.
Would you mind removing the text justification from your CSS? Without proper hyphenation support in HTML, justified text looks downright horrible.
https://cringely.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/themes/simpleX_ads/style.css, Line 56.
Steve?! who cares! what about Jack Box?!?!?!?!
What’s a journo?
I knew that this would be a polarizing column but that, in itself, is not a valid reason to avoid it. And if the commenters are Apple shareholders, then I’m really surprised. If they aren’t Apple shareholders, then I’m not at all surprised they don’t care. But no major company in the computer industry is guided more personally than is Apple by Steve Jobs. Not even Microsoft under Bill Gates and it was Bill Gates who told me that, admiringly. So his condition IS material and he can change that by resigning and nothing else. I’m not calling for that, by the way. But if he wants to take his name off my map that’s what it will require.
And yes, he might have changed his chat name after many years, he might have disowned my source, might have done any of a number of other things mentioned BUT HE DIDN’T. You think I don’t check these things out? I’ve had this for 10 days and wouldn’t have published on a Saturday except it took that long to confirm.
All the best,
Bob
As a shareholder of Apple for some time now I believe the board has been diligent in their actions to advise the shareholders on the situation with Steve Jobs. Regardless of how much detail they go into on the subject of his health the fact that he announced that he was taking a leave of absence to get back to full strength is sufficient. If they went into further detail at what point do you stop? whatever they say about his condition there are hundreds of websites out there that will publish speculative comments on what his chances are and if he does this or that and so on. In other words the best advice was to just say that he was taking a leave of absence. I believe that while Steve Jobs is an integral part of Apple he is not all of apple, the shareholders have the ability to see that there is a very talented team of people that have the same mindset and attitude to making some of the best software and hardware in the world today. Apple is the sum of all the people that work there and the market and the shareholders have already taken that into consideration. We will see in the coming months how successful Apple can be without Steve at the helm everyday and I’m sure all Apple staff are saying “business as usual”
Actually Bob, you should know by now that is not first time that I`m log of for a while…
As someone who sees too much intrusion into private matters by the press and our society in general, I really WANT to see this speculation, and a lot of the coverage on his health, as just that. However, as a stockholder (minimal I grant you but I do own shares) I have to say this situation is of Steve’s making, and as such, it is his to deal with.
You are correct that at this point he would have to resign for it NOT to be an issue. I had thought earlier that turning over the Keynote at Macworld was an effort to steer the company away from the fluctuations of the market at every rumor on his health. However, if they wanted to do that he would have to have let someone else announce something BIG, not minor updates and the end of their participation in “the big show”.
If he had spent years showing the talents of his staff, the drive of the company, and the focus of all the employees at Apple, he would not be being “hounded” on his “private” health issues. Steve built the cult of Steve that now dictates severe drops in stock prices whenever any hint of his demise is dropped.
If he cares about the company he built, then resurrected, he should take care to transition away from the cult of Steve, stop hoarding the spotlight, and shine light on the team he developed there. If he plans on returning soon and doing this, then I’m fine with the leave of absence. If it lasts much longer, however, he needs to either resign, or make the company do something spectacular in his absence, to show it can.
Either way, questions need to be answered or the shareholders are indeed being denied the full fair value on their investment.
Thanks for another great article.
It’s probably been here for awhile, and I just missed it, but I love the new pic for I, Cringely! The article’s good too as usual, but big thumbs up on tech/hip/retro photo.
The world will definitely miss Steve Jobs. He has revolutionized our life in so many ways. He’s the kind of person who should have a eulogy before he passes.
Bob,
Why no comments here? It would be nice if your blog was a real conversation.
It would also be cool to see you be more interactive with your Twitter account. Just posting blog entries is no fun.
Umm, you have a source who says Jobs has stopped
using iChat.
That doesn’t mean he’s stopped using a mac (or
even IM – perhaps he is just invisable these days).
Or he has the next version of the iPhone which
is so great he doesn’t need a computer (but can’t stand to use
AOL’s AIM app).
You might want to revise this.
You say you’ve spent ten days confirming this.
But all you write about is a single source who says he isn’t using iChat.
Do you have anything else?
For all you know he is undergoing physical therapy and has been told to not be on IM (I had to do that).
Do you have another source that has said he is not using a mac?
It look like joj I have a wife joj and I do joj have a mouth and joj kids have some chicks to be Kissed
Robert,
While I agree with the general premise of this article (that Apple is [usually] in control of every ounce of information that flows from Cupertino), I take issue that the best defense you have for Jobs’ lack of internet presence is based solely on whether iChat was launched or not. This is nothing short of weak conjectures, or worse, inflammatory link-baiting.
While I loved your work in “Triumph of the Nerds”, this piece seems more interested in rumor-mongering than fact-finding. This smacks of the gossip ventures at ValleyWag, not your journalistic cred.
Jeremy
What a ridiculous post. Jobs isn’t at his computer so now we need to worry? Heaven forbid that he’s doing something else.. like.. umm.. oh, i dont know.. worrying on getting better as opposed to essentially doing his CEO job from home on his computer?
WHat’s next ? An article about how Jobs hasn’t picked up his phone the last 4 hours?
It is strange that there was so much speculation on the blogs and CNBC. Then suddenly, nothing. It was like Steve had died ten years ago and Apple was doing fine without him. I wonder if the ‘powers that be’ issued a time out edict? Not sure if anyone has that much control but why does he never get mentioned any more?
“A friend of mine has for years been one of Steve Jobs’ Internet chat buddies”
And has decided to violate the trust Mr. Jobs had in him to continue to chat. Shame on him.
Some points to ponder…
1. Another raison d’ètre for the first 8 grafs would be that “Steve seems to have stopped using his computer” is too short an article.
2. How do you know he really stopped using his computer? If all you have is a chat buddy not seeing him anymore, he might as well still use his computer, but not to chat.
3. Following point 2, well, I think I could understand if Steve decided to move away from IM; if you’re recovering from whatever it is Steve’s recovering from, you could do without a boatload of people asking you for your health status every day. Not that I have any way of knowing whether that’s the case, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
4. Let’s wait for some announcement from Apple (or Steve personally) before declaring him dead; I was glad this whole (J)obsession was over, and like you said yourself, nobody outside a (probably small) circle of people knows for sure what’s going on, and guessing isn’t going to make things better.
He usually use wall, chalk and sponge to compute and to draw, to think, to explain..
and it`s not like he is not Wiki himsrelf
As a user of all of the Apple products I can get my hands on, I believe that Steve Job’s health is a main concern to the company. What? He’s only the co-founder (with Mister Crazy Guy Wozniak) and he only had to come back and save the company… twice? If Steve Jobs leaves the picture, AAPL is done for….
Jesus, Steve! Could you tell us a *little* less?
Woah, Bob just provided fodder for a new flood of unsubstantiated rumors for Monday.
Respectfully, this is a horrific article. Speculating on a private issue is just shameful. And no, the SEC doesn’t think this is material unless he knowingly lied–we all have friends at the SEC.
The worst part of the article is your big “lead” is pure speculation.
Maybe Steve is off iChat. Maybe he is using a Apple/Disney VIP private account. Who knows.
But just because you have some buddy who doesn’t see him on iChat doesn’t mean he is away from his computer. It’s pure speculation.
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My hope is this: Steve gets healthy, and lives a long life. But he never returns to Apple.
Instead, I hope tells the media and wall street that because of the disgusting way they treated him, he has no desire to be part of this system any longer.
And then Steve, spends the next 30 years with his family, enjoying life out of the public eye.
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Mark, this article really is a new low.
I think the subtle point in the article is that for someone who has been all about technology his whole adult life is that some other priority is now at the top of his list and thus changing the world with technology is not #1. From there the question is will his attention return to technology and changing our culture or has battling this condition forever changed is focus away from this.
Or more simply put, has this health episode ended his insanely great run at changing the world with technology by truly changing Steve.
Of course, that then opens the door to the question that if that is indeed so, then what’s NeXT?
Cringe…this isn’t a polarizing column, it’s a pointless one entirely for your own self promotion. Shame on you.
Steve, we all wish you nothing but the best. You don’t owe us, the media, or shareholders anything. The media only cares because it gets them attention (because many of us actually care about your health because you are an idol to many of us). Investors should always factor in that a CEO could and might be gone for any reason tomorrow, so your health issues are none of their businesses.
As for Cringely, I think you were dropped on your head as a kid.
Sorry, as with much else Steve Jobs conjecture, while someone may get lucky and have a correct guess, it is still a guess.
Unless you know something you aren’t mentioning, this article is 100% pure speculation, and unworthy of anyone claiming to be a journalist.
And, as an AAPL stockholder, I will say that, no, we don’t have the right to pry in Jobs’ private life. I invested in Apple because I believe in the company and its products. Jobs may be a great showman and motivator — but he didn’t invent the iPod or iPhone or write Mac OS X. He did however hire some extremely competent managers who will do much better than John Scully and co. (or Steve Balmer for that matter). History need not repeat itself.
Steve Jobs had a great run with Apple. His health issue provided a timely and dignified departure rather than doing the Bill Gates bow out.
Continued rambling and speculation of anything Steve does nothing to help my Apple stock investment.
I think this article is valid. I think most people are measuring their own sense of privacy against Steve Jobs. He made himself the icon at Apple. He presented himself as the face of the company, even down to the likeness of Mac Guy verses PC in the ads. Every main idea presented as his own. Every event to showcase a new product presented by himself. Now he wants to disappear in a cloud of secrecy for 6 months and people feel his “private” life is violated because of this article? HUH?!
@Ted T.
Oh, sorry, don’t take me wrong. I, also an AAPL stockholder (also because of the hardware and software vs. mostly the people) also believe that we shouldn’t pry, but rather get an updated declaration as to whether he is *still* coming back or not. But you also can’t dispute that he is the reason that Apple *is* Apple, and not just a dying company that used to make good computers.
Go Apple!
Uh oh
Mr. Cringley – Jobs’ temporary absence, and the risk if any of a longer absence, have already been factored into the price of Apple stock. So if that is all this is about for you, then please just let it go and give the man some privacy and some dignity. You have had a good career, but this kind of inconsiderate inquiry and reporting is just the kind of thing that could taint you as someone not worthy of our respect. I get the impression that being respected means something to you. Give it to earn it.
I’m constantly amazed at how businesses, even the largest corporations in the world, are run like personal hobbies. Possibly hobbies involving abuse, pain, threats, punishments, evil, secrets, and fear, but nevertheless run not as I would expect businesses to be run. I am so naive.
Example: “The Big Three.”
What? Not for a long time, though people continue to talk about “The Big Three” as if we’re still in 1954. Don’t blink or you’ll miss them vanishing.
One thing you can expect from corporations is that they magnify the frailty, conservatism, and stupidity of herds but not the adaptability, brilliance, or creativity of actual individual living persons. Not for more than a year or two.
Then one day an established company begins to decline. It puckers up, regroups, and does more of what it has been doing. This may continue year after year, decade after decade.
Conditions worsen. The company gets more extreme in trying to maintain a fiction.
Reset. Repeat.
As the ancient proverb says: “If you do what you did, you’ll get what you got.” So they do. And they do.
And then one day there is only a hole.
Beyond the traditional corporation there are companies like Apple and North Korea, almost indistinguishable from one person’s fever dreams. Wildly successful. Distinct. Unique. Surprising. Insane. Ephemeral.
When Apple is no longer Mr. Jobs, Apple will no longer be. Count on it.
Great writing as always. Thank you.
Is it not possible that this means that he’s doing exactly what he said he was going to do: make his health the highest priority?
I know that when I’m sick if I stay online or use the computer anything like as much as I normally do, then I quickly get sucked back into all the stress of whatever my current project is, even if I’m not ‘working’, and that the best way for me to get well quickly is to stop thinking about work and what’s going on ‘on the internet’ and relax.
I think people would have more to worry about if he actually was doing thing things he normally does, that would mean he wasn’t putting his health first.
“as it should be”?
Fuck you, Mark Stevens. Take that attitude and shove it right up your pseudonymous ass.
FYI, iChat has the ability to set one’s chat status to “invisible”, which lets you log in to AIM without showing up as online to anyone else. It’s not at all surprising that someone who wants a bit of privacy would start using it, you incompetent nosy prick.
-jcr
Steve is being cloned at the moment. Since cloning an intelligent (however cold) being is a brand-spanking new technology and SJ being the first client, to boot, he has to devote 24/7 to this new challenge. Steve will need all the remainder of his 6-mos sabbatical to complete this task.
In the meantime, Tim and Phil are authorized to have as much fun promoting iPhone/Touch fart apps to disrupt the nosy media – have you walked to an Apple Store lately? My dingies, the place is starting to look like an app swap-meet! Every table is adorned with a Macbook+iPhone. What a disaster I can see for the future. It may look awesome today with all these fun and games but without SJ, Tim and Phil will be left for the buzzards of the valley. I wish them great luck for AAPL=SJ and no one else.
And yes, you are absolutely correct. You have absolutely all the right to know what is going on with your invested company’s CEO health – however private it may be. I know I am. (Disclaimer: I have been an AAPL investor since 1996 – before the NeXT merger).
I seriously doubt your sources,seems like Steve’s not the one who is whining its you lot who is !.Just leave the man alone its his private matter you are nothing but a paparazzi of your small blog world.(See its so easy to get personal).Get real its his private matter and leave him alone.
Quite frankly I find it a major stretch to believe that Steve Jobs has regularly spent “…hours and hours…” talking with friends in a chat room. Is this article some kind of joke.
Frankly, Steve Jobs is changing some priorities in his life. He’s had some realizations, what is important and what are and to whom his responsibilities are. He will survive this latest bout, but he will step away from the company at the end of the six months. He wants the shareholders to get used to the idea of an Apple without Steve calling the shots. What would kill shareholder value of the company, Steve Jobs handing in his resignation now or after six months of the company being run by Cook, et alia, while Steve has been “convalescing”, especially in this current economic downturn?
I am sorry that every other comment has been negative or pedantry. This is a thoughtful piece that I realise is not the end (unlike the other commenters), and that as news progresses about what Steve is doing, you will comment further.
Love the audio of the posts by the way – this is so much of a simple idea, I wonder why I have not seen it done before. Could I call it innovative?
[…] Cringely, the world’s best IT writer, brings the news that Apple’s talismanic leader Steve Jobs is not only off on a health cure, but has, […]
Oh dear.
All the whinging bitches are out on this one.
A datum is offerered, fully qualified.
And the mental pygmies go nuts in the comments because they’re offended by hard and raw data.
Well done Bob on being brave enough to do real news.
“A datum is offerered, fully qualified.
And the mental pygmies go nuts in the comments because they’re offended by hard and raw data.”
Fully qualified? One anonymous person who hasn’t seen Steve on iChat for a while? And that’s justification for prying into his private life and violating HIPAA laws? That’s your concept of hard and raw data?
And, somehow, the people who point out the senselessness of that ‘logic’ are “mental pygmies”?
You’re really confused.
Bob, if you have the balls, I dare you to name the person who told you this. Let’s hear it directly from the person. The impact of this *rumor* as we have it is obvious. Why should the “accuser” in this case remain secret?
im iffy on the voyeurism aspect of this piece (I’m peeking at IM buddy chat lists),
but the idea of steve shutting his laptop and walking away for an undefined period is a powerful one.
But this is salacious, the preceeding eight paragraphs are an attempt to justify the punchline – which really is no more than gossip – steve’s not on the buddy list! shock horror! unfounded conclusions! Whatever about the friend giving mr. cringely this info, for him to then turn around and state – ‘steve jobs has stopped using his computer’ is laughably without foundation.
this article is gossip.
The guy’s off duty. Leave it. Please.
Actually, I have it on good authority (at least as good as your source) that Jobs is still using his computer, but he just cut your friend off because your friend couldn’t keep his stupid mouth shut about private matters.
Under Federal Law, Jobs’ health IS a private matter – no matter how much whiny ‘journalists’ think otherwise. Are you really so dense that you think Jobs is the only one accomplishing anything at Apple? They have an incredibly talented team and a fantastic culture. They’ll do just fine.
Jobs WAS needed at one point. It took an upheaval to change the culture that Amelio had created. But now that there’s a new culture and team in place, it’s no longer a one person show. So please find some REAL news.
[…] but there’s a nugget of Apple (AAPL) news in Robert X. Cringley’s latest column, “Where’s Steve?,” published […]
I am disgusted by this article, its lack of logic, and its lack of compassion. Steve Jobs is brilliant and obviously even of his brilliance and of his creativity makes him a target of envy. May he get well soon, and I am praying for that.
I think you’re all missing the obvious answer.
Steve is using a computer – he’s just using a new product, not yet released from Apple, that allows users to interact on the Web without allowing anyone to identify who is really there or leaving any trace of their existence. It’s called iStealth. Look for it in October.
[…] X. Cringely (aka Mark Stephens), famoso escritor de tecnologia do Vale do Silício, veio hoje com um artigo em seu blog I, Cringely que certamente dará o que falar. Além de apoiar o fato de que a saúde do CEO da Apple é um […]
Not so fast my friend. You said he was loggin on less and less…hmm that sounds like a computer that does not stay on all the time. WHOA – I bet his office computer has a chat client that boots with the computer! Yes, that’s it. SO he;s probabally at home, or in a clinic or in the islands – where ever the doctors told him to go – which he said was AWAY from Apple for six months. So what is the big deal. You article clearly states it was a growing pattern, less and less – he’s not coming into the office – isn’t that what he said he was going to stop doing for six months. No story here and yes I’m 2k long in apple as of January. If he’s not back in July, post something for me. Until then he’s out to lunch and there are other people runing the company who I have confidence in.
Cringely, did you ever see this post on Slashdot from January 5, 2009?
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1080619&cid=26331745
While much of comment is taking a somewhat critical look at the first press release put out by Jobs, you can see the poster is not convinced when reading in between the lines. Whoever this poster is, he or she pretty much called Jobs absence on a (supposed) medical basis. I’m surprised it hasn’t gotten more publicity.
What an odd flood of comments. Not one saying it’s terrific journalism — which it is.
I have to imagine it’s a bunch of AAPL stockholders driven here by a Google Alert who hate the fact that they will lose a bunch of money on Monday morning.
Great story, Bob. Of course, few will admit it’s a great story — until the WSJ steals it, unattributed, midweek.
Wow, Apple minions unite!
nothing wrong withthis article. It never ceases to amaze me at how zealous mac fanboys can be.
This article brings up some interesting information which the loyal followers of Steve can’t handle.
Get a life people, this IS news.
Jobs is the creative juice that runs through the veins of Apple.
That can be seen even as so little time has passed since his absense.
You are all truly frightening people.
I’ve got to say, Bob, as a fan and weekly reader for close to 10 years now, this is really pretty darn weak.
Even when you’re speculating wildly or relating unsubstantiated rumors, you at least lace it with a bit of logic. That’s absent, here. Just sayin’.
No amount of money interest or journalist interest removes the man’s right to privacy. People are free to invest elsewhere if they don’t like it.
Very chilling column, but a very good one.
The troubling ethical issues involved in disclosing the iChat information — your friend disclosing it to you, you disclosing it to us — are interesting, complex and worthy of a chapter in a journalism textbook. But as an Apple stockholder, and even as a recent Apple computer purchaser, I feel your column is newsworthy.
As a plain human being, however, my thoughts are with Steve Jobs.
…or, maybe Steve has uninstalled IM because he’s tired of people constantly popping in and asking about his health. He got tired of manually turning it off and finally uninstalled it.
Let’s not jump to the conclusion that Steve Jobs has been unplugged from The Matrix!
I hope he(steve jobs) comes back….(he is apple/apple is he)
What a ridiculous, reckless train of logic you have taken. Your friend says he no longer finds Jobs on his IM so you take it that Jobs must not be using his computer anymore. WOW. That’s a hundred meters you just leaped over right there to make the conclusion.
And without hesitation you further break earth’s gravity with the things you finally insinuate with this conclusion. Because he’s not using the computer anymore Syeve Jobs might very well might not return. Not make it back. WOW.
Let’s cut to the chase, Mr. Cringely. Maybe he’s already dead, eh? Maybe that’s why your friend don’t find him on IM anymore.
does his friend have a list of friends of 1000%0, to belivr or?
Netcraft confirms it …
live is a fest2009
It’s understandable that people want to know the details about Steve Jobs’ health… either because they are genuinely concerned, or they are just plain curious. But to feel that you have a “right” to this personal information is wrong in every sense.
Perhaps the folks who are concerned about Steve Job’s health should simply sell their Apple stock now and let the man have some peace. I know he is considered a rainmaker and I guess some people will blame him if Apple declines after he retires or if it loses value because he doesn’t somehow live forever as CEO. I certainly will miss the wonderful stuff he seems to pull out of his hat but i won’t hold it against him for growing old or expiring. The SEC should be more concerned with pointing out CEOs who are inept or plundering their companies not wringing their hands over how one man wants to spend his remaining time here.
I wonder where people think it should stop. If Jobs is expected to release all of his personal health information, why don’t we require companies to report when their executives eat at McDonalds? Or when they skip a session at the gym? Or maybe when they have more than one drink in the evening? Maybe we should require executives to publish their entire DNA sequence so we can determine their risk of getting various diseases?
The whole thing is absurd. No one has any right to others’ personal health information.
Bob, I really look forward to your articles each week, but I’ve never seen a reach for a story like this one. It’s one thing to call it “polarizing”, but more accurate to call it a mountain made from a mole hill.
Please don’t let your articles digress now that you have no editor overhead.
Oh, shut up already. Wait the 6 months and find something else to talk about. Allow the man some dignity, you attention-starved vulture! Apple’s got a succession plan in the short term, obviously- if need be, in the long-term. In the meantime, get out of Steve’s life and stop the moronic chant. You’re despicable, and certainly starved for material. Isn’t there anything else you can write about? How about taking 6 months off- you don’t sound so well. Get an intern to fill in.. you need a break, maybe some therapy.
I think he has gone fishing
Or he has a new idea ? to spring on us
Like I or G Phone
He is comming out with Apple Talk
Just spending time with family
Its his Biz,
Now lets talk about my spelling
Or helping me get members to my site
so i can help others
i just created the domain
circlecitytoyrun.com
collected 2 bus loads of toys for the kids at salvation army
raised 10,000 dollars for them
sold 3,000 in t shirts
You wont find any one talking about me
steve jobs has done a good job
helping thousands of people create good programs for the
kids at schools Its time he takes a break.
Wow, talk about a hit whore! You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel on this one. You’re doing so bad that you have to pull out the one trump card to try and generate hits, a hit piece on something related to Apple.
You say you’ve thoroughly checked this out, but you give no details on how you verified this. And let’s face it, at best all you can verify is that he’s not on iChat. So even if this ends up being true, all you’ve managed to do is toss out a hit generating article that has NO relevance to what his health might be, or if he actually is not even using a computer (as if that somehow matters), when the most likely explanation is that Jobs got a new iChat login so he can do his work without being harassed by the fictional friends you tap for your column.
Have something resembling journalistic integrity please.
Bob – you’re nonserious asshole.
I have been reading Robert X Cringely since the Infoworld days and recall that he was seldom wrong when it came to people situations. With this in mind, I take his lead as fact; do with it what you will. It didn’t seem to me that Bob jumped to a conclusion. It seemed to me that he went nine paragraphs out of his way to be deferential and circumspect.
The fact that Steve Jobs’ chat usage is described as stepping down over a period of time is really worrisome. But, as one other post here suggested, it could be that he simply became tired of being pinged by friends about his condition and eventually decided to bag the chats entirely. We all care about Steve’s health, we don’t know, and we have only a fragile trail of crumbs leading to an unknown destination. Que Sera, Sera.
Bob, you’re an idiot. I don’t even need to respectfully say so. To write an article like this is plain stupid. It says nothing, is based upon nothing and at best is conjecture. What do you think you are, an investigative reporter? Give me a break. What an IDIOT!
You suck. Disgustingly so. Join the ranks of the other vultures like Lyons. If I had a “friend” like your so-called-chat-buddy of Jobs, I would change my IM name too. What kind of scum do you hang out with that discloses private matters.
Man you suck so bad that I feel like I am insulting the word suck by applying it to you. Go get a freakin’ life and get your head out of the Jobsian anus.
Oh and why don’t you stop being a coward and just say at the end that you think Steve is dying and won’t be coming back, to show what a turd you really are. If he comes back, guess who is not ever going to get an interview again?
If he ends up well, I hope he releases all of his potential for being a complete jackass on you. Personally. And then burps.
you are an idiot… what purpose does this article serve..?? none…
you r an asshole..
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Steve Jobs, with all due respect, may no longer be as important to Apple as he was a few years ago.
Mac OS X is now on a solid foundation and can be shepherded into the future without Jobs. Same goes for the iPod and the iPhone.
And as far as developing the “next big thing”, even if Jobs had never taken a sick-day off from Apple we would still be in the same spot: Apple needs new visionaries going forth. Steve or anyone else begins to “lose it” in the sense of being able to come up with Big Things. Hopefully Apple has been groomed that others can now step in…. no longer is Apple to be a “one man band”…
one last word – to those of you who are hurling insults… Stop! Grow up … present your viewpoint and do so in a reasoned respectful manner. Good day to you all.
I understand your claim that because Steve Jobs is CEO, Apple shareholders have a right to know about how well he is managing the company. But, the line you draw between being a “hit” article monger and responsible journalism goes too far. Have a little decency; a little humanity. Enough coverage is enough. So, let’s put the shoe on the other foot.
As a journalist, you are responsible for ethical reporting. So, if you are reporting to us about Steve Jobs, maybe we should have a look at you. We have a RIGHT to know how credible the source is. Just to make sure you are a credible source, maybe Steve Jobs should put a few million into reporters/investigators/etc checking you out. Maybe we should follow you on jaunts to CES at Vegas…just to make sure you’re above board and don’t do anything in Vegas that would be unbecoming of a responsible journalist?
Speculation, stories, unproved facts? Good, you get the point.
Stick to facts. Your claim that Steve Jobs doesn’t use his computer now is so faulty–such a leap in logic–that it’s disgusting.
Can’t we just leave SJ in peace for six months?
We can start speculating in June or whenever it is.
Isn’t that enough? Dang, people look to be desperate for hits.
Maybe it’s the economy.
Sunny Guy
Silly Rabbit, RC, SJ announced very publicly that he’s taking a six month hiatus. But you knew that, of course.
The timing of your article -PBS wise- makes me wonder if your lead-in isn’t richly ironic. Bet you’re going to see a spike in your page views.
As the parent of a child with a disability, I’m more than attuned to issues like medical privacy, need to be accommodating in work/life to deal with medical issues. But Bob is right, Apple/Jobs have allowed Steve to be (just about) the focus of a cult of personality and in doing so made all of Steve’s life material to inquiry. (Yes, I expect fanboys to react but that kind of proves the point, so no matter.)
My own boss survived a bout of pancreatic cancer and the impact on his health was immediate and obvious. And for months he was lucky to operate at 50%. As a shareholder, I’d like to know if the CEO was working less than full-time. I’d support him and the right of the company to adopt that work schedule if he needs to, but I think transparency here is required.
Steve lost some of the privacy “rights” most of us have when he became a celebrity (both Hollywood and Wall Street variety) and I’m not interested in seeing his x-rays but if he’s not at 100% for more than a couple of weeks, it is germane and should be addressed.
“Hmm… where could I possibly look to find some sort of update about Steve Jobs’ health? Heh… I wonder if Cringely has an article up…”
You, sir, are creepy.
So let me get this straight.
By your logic –
If i’m not using iChat, then I am no longer using a computer?
Do you see how stupid that sounds?
This will be the last time i read any articles from this site… how pathetic and stupid.
Maybe after 10 years, SJ finally had to reboot and does not have iChat automatically “open at login”?
Ha! That’s awesome! Best explanation I’ve heard yet! I finally took my IM off of auto open because I wasn’t using it.
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Apple will continue to operate/exist well after Steve Jobs leaves (for whatever reason). The Board of Directors, when initially informed of Steve’s diagnosis of pancreatic cancer (which has one of the highest mortality rates of any disease), may/should have developed a plan to gradually replace him as the face and voice of Apple. This plan could have included steps such as to accelerate the grooming of Steve’s successor and selecting someone else to deliver the MacWorld keynote address, though I doubt it included pulling out of MacWorld all together.
My uncle was diagnosed with 4th stage pancreatic cancer in July, and lost that fight 3 months later (his only clue something was wrong was rapid weight loss, prompting a visit to his doctor). If my suspicions are correct, I think Steve has remained at the helm for as long as he been able to, and is ready to announce his replacement later this year. I don’t say this to incite an emotional reaction, I only mention it because it makes good business sense.
[…] Apple 2.0 blog at Fortune has picked up something from Robert X Cringely’s latest column, Where’s Steve? Cringely says: A friend of mine has for years been one of Steve Jobs’ Internet chat buddies. […]
Where’s Steve?! Hey, nevermind Steve, where’d WXXV-TV25 channel go? Why are there suddenly fewer channels? Enquiring minds need to know! 😉
Hey what about this?
Perhaps his hard drive/power supply/logic board crashed and he hasn’t made it down to the Genius Bar, he is a little sick don’t you know ?
Great article by the way.
love how he has a chat buddy and hasn’t logged on, thrilling.
Give it a rest man…. and stop trolling for hits.
It just makes me sad. I’ve admired his work for a long time. Regardless of the details – is Steve is using his computer or not? – He’s not at Apple and we don’t know if he will be again.
BobW
Cringley has been in the business even longer that I have. My guess is that you are not in the business. If you were you would know what a truly nasty person Jobs is. Read the bio’s if you want the stories, they are all true.
Jobs runs his companies as little more than glorified ego trips. The companies are publicly traded but Jobs uses his normal bullying techniques to have unflattering information suppressed that is of material interest to stock holders. He has been sailing dangerously close to RICO territory for a long long time. Dig through the pre iPod APPL 10Q’s and 10K’s for some of the evidence.
This sounds like the end game for the reality distortion field. This is an important story, especially to those who have been suckered by Jobs and have not realized it yet. Kudos to Mark for running it.
This is something that passes for National Enquirer fodder. How did you resist the temptation of speculating that he passed and was reincarnated as “PC guy?”
I can understand how this might be the case but without further details as to how you checked this, I can only think that this doesn’t mean he’s stopped using the computer. Maybe he had surgery, and is simply recovering. There could be the fact that he is just pissed off at people on a project and quit getting on iChat because they kept asking questions that he didn’t want to answer.
Or he could be on vacation. Or just using one of the new iMacs with Snow Leopard on it but iChat isn’t stable enough, so he’s using it for other things.
Or maybe he is keeping control of the press and he knew that you’d hear from this source that he wasn’t online anymore and you were played like a violin.
I could go on but I think my point has been made.
I’ve been an apple stockholder, off and on, for a long time. Mostly when Steve was involved and mostly not when he wasn’t. I love the product and I think without Steve Jobs we wouldn’t have it – any of it. I believe he is in a very serious situation with his health and appreciate this posting.
Seems to me most of these postings are delusional ….. or else … Well, I don’t know how you guys can breath with your head in that place!!
Thanks Bob, and keep it coming!
Wow, I thought Danial Lyons was a tool. Some unnamed source says Jobs hasn’t chatted with him in a while and this, for you, is a story? What’s the definition of rumor-mongering again? Hey, do you have a bet with Dan to see who first calls it — you know, Jobs death day.
Oh, the manic glee you death-watchers exhibit. Do you salivate at the delicious gotcha-game you’re playing against a very ill man? “Harrumph … how dare that jerk Jobs try to die in peace and dignity; we vultures have his entrails to pick at.” Yeah, yeah, public company, shareholders right to know, blah, blah — just rationalizations to conduct your all’s-fair, sleazy yellow journalism unbound by any scruples.
I now believe what I suspect you (Bob) believe: Steve is dying. I sincerely hope I’m wrong. And I will gladly proclaim to everyone and anyone that I was wrong once proven so.
But assuming your source is accurate and Steve has really stopped communicating via iChat, I see few credible alternatives.
I also have to admire someone who may have perpetrated a huge ruse upon the world (operable pancreatic cancer rather than *inoperable* pancreatic cancer) in order to (a) further the prospects of Apple and (b) enjoy the personal time left to him. Given that situation (which I hope is not the real situation), I hope I would have the courage to do the same thing.
I fervently hope to be looking back at this posting and shaking my head with laughter and slight embarrassment in a few years. I fear that I will not.
P.S. I guess all the other posters prior to me don’t understand the implications of this. To consider this ‘low’ is to treat it as paparazzi behavior instead of the seriously worried posting it is.
He just got his new iPhone prototype, and the latest iPhone OS completely bags AIM and uses XMPP via MobileMe, GMail, or others. Apple has an XMPP to AIM gateway to bridge over all of its current iChat/AOL users (AOL can do XMPP as well but Apple isn’t asking for their help as they want to cut AOL out of the picture), but since it’s still under development they only allow gatewaying AIM traffic to Apple IP’s and select testers. Steve doesn’t need to talk to anybody who doesn’t work for him via IM, and he’d rather have his new toy than chat with your buddy. He was seen on less and less over a short period when he was first using the new prototype, declaring it crap, then iterating that for a few bugfixes, until he was squarely on the his iPhone/next.
Or maybe he’s in Peru, in a coma induced by tribal healers to rebuild his pancreas. Heck, could be either.
Robert, you’ve always been a favorite of mine, and I’ve always loved your articles. But this? I think you’ve lost it. Now you’re just a rumor-peddler, like Cnet, ZDNet, Gizmodo and Engadget and the mlllion odd other rumor-peddlers who spin sensationalist articles on the pretext of interesting “news”.
I don’t care how well researched your article is. Your entire article hinges on he fact that a man did not log onto iChat? Your article is an affront to my intelligence.
I want my good old Cringely back, the Cringely that I loved to read.
I’m a switcher (or switched back?) – 2 years ago, I had enough after I dealt with Vista a few times. I haven’t looked back. The point is I love my Mac & OSX, I am just as big a fanboy as the rest of you. However, if Steve is no longer online, I am sorry, but it is newsworthy. The part that’s upsetting to me, and most likely the rest of you, is that Cringely is seldom wrong. This means we may have to face the world without Jobs. Not liking the content of the message does not justify killing the messenger.
Hi Bob,
Well, first of all, the article is good enough to keep me still here. It has ‘Steve Jobs’ and some weird news in it, and kudos for that!
All of you who treat this site as a reliable source of news are wrong, and it seems shameful to post such negative and pointless comments. It’s a fairly tale news site that’s here for your entertainment. Go somewhere else to get the vetted information.
Ten years ago Steve Jobs came back and saved the company from certain demise. He saved it by imagining ipods and iphones and ultrathin laptops. Now these are very stylish and sexy and every self respecting yuppy wants all of them but now it is time for Apple to fulfill its higher calling and go seriously green and come up with a computer that is ultimately expandable and uses less energy and is reasonable in price. This last has not been a priority in the past but in today’s more humane world a necessity. And while I am wishing, I would really like to see Apple close the gap between the ever so limited iMac and the mammoth 3000.00 desktop. It is time for a serious reasonable desktop for the rest of us.
And may Steve Jobs live long and be happy out of the public eye. get a life boys.
Didn’t you all hear? Cringely has signed off of the Internet never to post again. Some of his friends were telling “reporters” (that means bloggers with no real discernible talent) about all of his personal, private stuff so he decided to give up communicating over the Internet completely and found a job that better matched his current personal situation and skills. I know all of this because his online friends that told me about it to start with, confirmed it for me. Even though they haven’t actually chatted with him since he went offline, they told me he did it because he was tired of everyone poking fun at him and his lame articles. So I can tell you it is true because I’ve confirmed it!
Get the point? While you can confirm whether something did or did not happen, you cannot confirm intent without speaking to Steve directly. Cringely does a wonderful job of trying to do exactly that in his article and his follow-up responses. Remember, blogging is not necessarily journalism. Most journalist actual have an ethical code of conduct they adhere to whereas too many bloggers just print what they think will get them readers. The more outrageous the better. Sad.
‘…and however much whining and threatening Steve does to reporters by e-mail and phone…’
If you hadn’t written ‘whining and threatening’ your readers might have given your argument about the pertinence of Steve Jobs’s medical condition the benefit of the doubt. But no one with a smidgen of human feeling should speak in those terms of a man trying to cope with cancer and death. You’re welcome to go on being hard-nosed and professional about Apple and Steve Jobs but you’re old enough to know that you can do that without being an oaf. I suspect you think that being gratuitously offensive about a famous and desperately ill man is cool and macho. It isn’t. It’s just…sad.
Beyond whatever fiduciary duty Steve may have to Apple, perhaps we could just say a prayer to whatever gods may be that he can continue his courageous fight as long as he is able to maintain a tolerable quality of life.
Knowing that others are preying for her gives comfort to my wife who is also battling a terminal illness.
so Steve jobs has switched to Windows…
Investors definitely should bet against Apple, it’s going nowhere fast and it’s a headless corpse at present and due to remain so. The company has bad karma, in fact, one could say that Steve Jobs brought his own suffering on himself. The tremendous wealth acquired by Steve Jobs wasn’t enough, he had to lobby to gut the wages of all American workers, including his own workers so as to squeeze even more profits out for himself. The man lobbied Al Gore to encourage democrats to abandon the civil and human rights of American citizen workers, he exploited the image of Cesar Chavez, and Albert Einstein, as those who would approve of Apple, while at the same time promoting policies that neither would approve of. Eroding wage, workplace, food and product safety, even environmental protections. There is poetic justice in Steve Jobs health and survival dwindling away, because he has selfishly used his wealth and power to deprive American citizens of their ability to survive. Each day that goes by, where Apple and Steve Jobs continue to destroy the lives of American citizen workers, will lead Jobs closer to the day he will no longer be able to harm anyone.
Apple products are not cutting edge, they are high priced toys that are mere shadows of what the brand originally was. Each new release is just one more opportunity to rip us off. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are now just two dessicated faces on the same coin, avaricious mediocrity.
Jenny:
This wouldn’t have anything to do with the planned Communication Workers of America strike against AT&T Mobility over sour grapes over iPhone sales going through Apple stores and the unwillingness of Apple employees to be unionized, would it?
-A
Huh? Where does all this come from Jenny? Steve Jobs is known to push his employees far, sometimes too far perhaps. But the rewards are also high for those who can live with that. Anyway for the most part Apple employees are very proud to work for Apple. Maybe Apple products as you say are just overpriced toys. The funny thing is that these toys just work whereas some of the other “serious” products seem to have a mind of their own. With unpredictable results at best. Anyway take a look at the innards of say a humble Mac Mini and compare that with what the competition has to offer in that area sizewise. On the other hand (or end) we have the Mac Pro which is cheaper than a Dell with the same specs. The fact remains that because they look gorgeous Apple’s products have the reputation for being overpriced, which they are not. Period.
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You are a complete asshole!
Maybe it’s because now he’s using a PC!! And, you know, Windows doesn’t have iChat…
Bob,
I agree with you. While people here are clamoring to point out a lack of fact checking, I doubt seriously you would do that sort of thing. Personally, I think that Steve is not coming back to Apple and that the world needs to get used to that fact. The company will do fine without him for a while and maybe they now have enough of a culture to continue without Jobs at the helm. One can hope.
Just for the record, if I knew that I there was a chance that I would be departing this world, email, internet, work and all the other tedium would take a serious backseat to my spending time with family and friends.
Until you feel like producing these so called “sources” by NAME, do the world a favor and STFU.
I guess it’s the same source that can prove that you’re a heroin user and that you have auto-immune deficiency syndrome.
You sir, are a waste of life.
Bob, when you assume, you make an ass of you and me. And here, you are assuming the worst without having more than very thin facts at best. If I was your editor, I’d have thrown your draft back in your face. You assert that Steve Jobs must be declining based on the assumption that not being as actively engaged online must mean the worst. But you present no proof to this assumption. This is anything but good journalism.
I’ve read your articles over time, and frankly, I find you to be an entertaining writer. But the gap between assumption and accuracy is vast. When I have tracked your past prognostications of what will be (case in point: your predictions of what Apple will present at major events) have been noteworthy for being spectacularly wrong time and time again.
If I were this incompetent, I would be lucky to have a job as a barista at Starbucks.
My advice: stop pontificating and give us proof. Your readers deserve better.
Calm down everyone. I am alive and well.
While I don’t doubt the Steve Jobs is alive and well (as can be expected), I doubt you are that Steve Jobs, else Cringely would have confirmed the veracity of your reply.
T’ain’t funny, McGee!
Dear Jenny,
I think I can speak for most people who will read you rant.
Put a sock in it.
Dave
Let me guess, you’re shorting Apple stock …
Ambulance chaser !
Steve Jobs’s health isn’t material to Apple shareholders – it is material, however, to dozens of vultures, parasites and ambulance chasers who hope to profit, from either page views or spurious lawsuits.
I’ve enjoyed Bob’s columns over the years (although, about Apple, he’s right about as often as Rob Enderle), but his vile glee over Steve Jobs’s illness makes me sick.
Never been to this site before, and I will never be back. I came here from an article on the appleinsider site (another site that has gone downhill in recent years). Anyway, this is complete speculative trash and clearly an attempt (which worked sadly) to get people to come to this site.
Bob,
I’ve read your articles for years and I’ve learned to accept it for what it is. Your opinion based on the facts you obtain. So be it with Steve Jobs. He has an obligation to keep shareowners informed as to his medical conditions. Since Steve won’t release the records then you have an obligation to let us know what you can find out.
Please keep up the good work.
The battery on his Mac Book Air is probably dead. Mine only stays charged for about 2 hours!
Maybe he should splurge on a Sony laptop, then he could stay connected.
My mom and sister have figured out that just because I turn off iChat that doesn’t mean I don’t have my computer on or that I am not home.
Steve Jobs might be just be playing the hermit to clear his mind to be able to think of how to implement the next big thing.
How about an investigation into insider trader or stock manipulation based on rumors of Steve Jobs’ health?
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While he may not be on his computer, that doesn’t mean he’s not talking to Cook and Schiller whenever he feels the need to. I think his resignation would be important but unless his health status is terminal then I don’t think it’s important.
I think the SEC was concerned that information released wasn’t misleading, rather than indicating shareholders (aka speculators) have the right to personal information. Any person on the planet could meet with a freak accident at any time – invest accordingly.
As far as the iChat – I followed a similar pattern of fewer logins followed by no logins when I took a very extended leave some years ago.
Cringely is definitely taking some heat for this article, but I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, as a devout Apple fan-boi, I think Steve Jobs is an absolute genius who not only saved Apple, but quarterbacked one of the greatest come backs in corporate history. The iPhone, which was developed and released under his watch, completely re-wrote the rules of mobile phones, including user interface, distribution, and applications. The current Apple OS is light years ahead of Vista. I hope Steve Jobs recovers, and feel that he is entitled to privacy.
On the other hand, his failure to deliver the keynote at MacWorld, and today’s announcement that he won’t attend the shareholder meeting for the first time since 1997, is indeed ominous news. Cringely’s post is simply an observation, with the reader left to consider the consequences. He didn’t release confidential patient information or any other privileged information. It’s up to the reader to decide how credible the source is, if Steve Jobs no longer uses chat (perhaps he simply turned his status to “go offline”?), and if, since perhaps he no longer uses chat, he’s on his death bed.
Bob, I’ll join the chorus: Surely it wasn’t necessary to disclose the matter of Steve Job’s discontinued iChat use? It crosses the ethical and journalistic line, adds nothing to what we know or need to know, and makes you look foolish.
I’ll say here that I’ve never understood the hatred expressed for the man who has made such a mark on our time. I can understand it coming from disgruntled employees, but as for everyone else, I think it is a huge act of projection.
I can’t imagine how impoverished technology ( and animation) for consumers would be without the vision, aesthetic and perfectionism of Steve Jobs. I have been personally driven by people equally “monstrous”, but it was worth it because I achieved things I never would have imagined, and the ensuing products made life better for millions of people. Such taskmasters, it must be understood, become distorted personalities when they are trying to mold others, and their skills, to realize an ideal. And I am convinced that they are a good deal harder on themselves.
When reporting the facts, my journalism class specified that something was only a fact if it could be confirmed by three independent sources. If this holds true today. Most of what passes for journalism on the Internet, patently isn’t. Most of the pap being smeared out there is opinion. Most of the the so called Internet journalists should properly identify their emissions as such. That being said, Robert has actually put out quite a bit of good journalism and opinion over the years.
Let Steve Jobs recuperate – he is a treasure – has changed and improved the
quality of our lives. Heck, he’s improved the quality of my dogs lives via the ipod
and the good music I can play for them anywhere to soothe them. Rest is important
to recover. Steve is a unique man who will live on forever – in history, in our hearts,
and in our daily lives. He’s changed the world. Give him space. Be positive. Help him heal. Send him good energy, vibes, prayers and let’s rejoice when he returns.
Enough of the negativism. We are better people because of him.
i doubt he likes being talked about.
he does like emailing allot, I’ve gotten a few email from his iphone.
Ah, hope springs eternal for the amateur stock investor. In the dangerous world of markets, one has to live in reality. Hope clouds sober thinking required to be in the markets. It sure seems to me that Jobs’ health is deteriorating. If that weren’t bad enough, we are in the biggest bear market since 1929. Stocks should never be held long in bear markets.
I’ll bet the big hedge funds are doing everything they can to find out if these rumours are true. If they are true, they will be shorting the living daylights out of AAPL and will be rewarded massively if he dies. Cold? Of course. But it’s all about price discovery, and hedge fund managers don’t care happens, they just care about getting the news before others do and profiting off it.
Great reporting Bob. You’ve obviously infuriated alot of hopeful AAPL stockholders, lol.
Grow up. WTF does this matter? What other publicly traded company do people keep track of the CEO’s sick day’s and vacation time? I’m so sick of you assholes.
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Should this site really exist?
does it really exist?
I have two sets of accounts for most everything – one personal and one public/work-related. This includes everything from Twitter, AIM/Yahoo/MSN/Jabber, email, you name it.
Whenever I take a vacation, etc… I start off being really good about continuing to check both sets of accounts, and then gradually check them less and less. Eventually, I decide I can stop worrying about all of that until I get back to work and stop checking them at all. This is how it goes for most people.
Besides.. he could have feeding tubes, be paralyzed from the chest down, confined to a bed, doped up on medication, whatever.. and still be able to IM just fine. You only need one working eye and a friggin THUMB to be able to IM. The “he logged on less and less” bit is a joke. Like instant messaging requires a great deal of physical exertion! What, he slowly slipped into a coma?! Because short of that, there’s nothing stopping him from getting on IM if he wants to.
He’s just not logging on his public accounts. Your friend is obviously willing to share details of conversations to bloggers.. let’s not even pretend he’s going to make it on to Steve’s personal friends lists.
I have been reading Bob Cringely for over a decade and his analysis has always been thoughtful, intelligent, and well-informed. So if he says Steve’s online presence has dropped, I’m confident he has much more to go on than what he is free to mention in a public article.
As for whether Steve has an obligation to disclose material aspects of his health, I think the answer is not black and white. Here is what I believe is a proper way to think about it.
As far as I am aware, SEC rules do not absolutely require disclosure of executive health. In that narrow sense, Steve may be entitled to some privacy on this issue. He is, however, a fiduciary of the company, and therefore required to act in the best interests of its owners, the shareholders. Since he is very publicly identified with the success of the company, and this very much through efforts of his own, his health can be presumed to be extremely material to shareholder interests.
But does *disclosure* of his health align with shareholder interests? Here you can imagine a range of points of view. Steve’s argument, I would suppose, is that shareholder interests are served by believing that he is fine, whether he is or not. This doesn’t serve the interests of non-owners contemplating buying the stock or shareholders who would sell the stock if they believed he was sick, but the former are not shareholders and the latter, it could be argued, constitute a minority of shares whose interest is outweighed by the a presumed majority of loyalist or at least wait-and-see shares.
That is not my own feeling about how he should behave. I’m just pointing out the argument that could be made.
For a completely different take on this, consider another large public company that is very strongly identified with its leader: Berkshire Hathaway. Chairman Warren Buffett has addressed the question of his health in each of his annual reports for years. He considers both the state of his health and the state of succession planning to be of clear and inescapable relevance to shareholder interests, and doesn’t in the least dodge the question of his dying or becoming incapacitated, and what happens to the company – and shareholders – afterwards.
My personal feeling is that this is the correct and responsible way to do it. But Buffett, more than Jobs, is the exception in this regard in present-day corporate America.
However from a purely economic rationalist point of view, there’s another way for shareholders and outside stakeholder to think about it, and it is this:
Whatever SEC rules and fidiciary responsibility make us think ought to be disclosed, the fact is that there are a very wide range of executive health disclosure policies being practiced by American corporations. The fact that this range exists and has in the main been tolerated should tell the prudent investor that they should expect nothing in this regard beyond what the present management of a given company has demonstrated to be their own policy. Berkshire investors have a reasonable expectation of candor on this topic. Apple investors, after Fortune’s disclosure of Steve’s original pancreatic cancer surgery which he concealed entirely from shareholders, should have an expectation of no candor whatsoever.
Most importantly, *these expectations should already be imputed into the stock price*. Steve’s secretiveness about his health has been widely known almost a year now, and that is plenty of time for the stock price to take it into account. Prudent Apple investors unwilling to live with the uncertainty of Steve’s health will have adjusted their holdings and buy/sell prices to take this into account.
While we can complain that there are not better and clearer disclosure requirements around executive health across the board (and I think we should), those of us holding or contemplating Apple investments at this late date really have no excuse for expecting Steve to behave differently from how he has in the past.
Reporters job is to report, I have always found Bob to be a good reporter. Not always liked or agreed with everything he has said, many have proved to be wrong, (to which Bob has often coughed up to) but many times Bob has been on the money and been the first one to bring to our attention some of the more unpalatable facts of life.
I’m sure as a good reporter, he has checked his sources, and will have to protect his sources and would not make frivolous remarks to to generate hits on his site. Most of us come here all the time regardless.
Even here in the UK there is massive concern about Steve Jobs / Apple. Many of us have been using their products for years, and base our judgement on Apple abilities and performance, but more than almost any other company the man at the top holds unprecedented sway in what we think is going to happen. His health whilst private is also of huge importance to us all. I cannot think of any other CEO that I would concern myself about in the same way. You try to name one?
There have been many frivolous commenst about why Steve is not using iChat, but its avoiding the main issue. Steve is not using iChat, Something that he has done from its inception and has hardly missed a day.
That is big news, wether you like it or not.
I wish all the best to Steve and his family through this time, and will continue to support him and Apple through the years ahead.
Don’t shoot the messenger. Keep up the good work Bob.
I’m gonna’ change the subject, if you don’t mind people, and make a prediction about the possibility of a new market trend.
If enough copies of Leopard fly off the shelf in conjunction with Dell Mini 9 netbook, instead of making those OS X’s inoperable via a software update, Apple, Inc will instead rush release it’s own touch screen netbook (forget the keyboard) that will supplant these DIY Hackintoshes. I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for Apple to license OS X or a netbook version for Dell, HP or even for XO version 2.
I’m on vacation in Honduras now. The last time I was here the only access was via a dial-up connection. If I was on a 6 month leave, I’d certainly think about doing what I’m doing. I would quite likely be off the net. I think you’re reading too much into this.
I have had two surgeries in the past 3 weeks and am now in my recovery phase. My illness is only 1/1000th as serious as Mr. Jobs. Still I am going to need a good 3 to 4 weeks to fully recover from my illness and surgeries. During the most difficult period of my treatment, I too dropped off of email and the Internet for about a week. I spent most of my time resting. When I was awake and (somewhat) alert I really wanted to spend that time with my wife and family, and not on cyberspace. We watched several movies and games together, and basically enjoyed each others company.
Anyone who has dealt with a serious illness probably knows EXACTLY what Mr. Jobs is doing right now. It is pretty obvious. It is time to leave the man alone, let him rest and spend quality time with his family.
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Perhaps it is just me but I’ve always viewed Mr. Cringely and his commentary as more about entertainment and less about news. Does any of what he said actually matter in the situation with Steve Jobs and Apple? Did he really say anything in the first place or just hint and imply? Sure, slap him around for going for the attention a sensitive topic would bring instead of doing something productive – but then remember he is in the business of publishing content for entertainment.
Thanks Bob for the insight.
there sure is a lot of angst over this issue, as your comments attest.
I just saw a picture of the actor, can’t remember his name who was in the movie Dirty Dancing. He has the same cancer and is close to death and he look just like Steve.
Skin and bones weighs 95 lbs. I feel terrible about it and I hate to say what I’m thinking so I won’t.
i can’t think of a single public figure whose health has elicited this kind of reaction. it’s hard to pick which is more unexpected: the vocal, even violent, calls for privacy, or the sappy outpourings of sympathy. it’s humane and all, but why steve jobs? he’s not a saint, people. he’s a corporate executive. i’ll never figure it out.
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Apple, Inc just banked another $$$$$. I wouldn’t expect a dividend or even something mundane as a stock buyback. They could :
1.) get in the car business and buy Chrysler and fire smelly Nardelli. Six Sigma doesn’t really work outside of GE, does it folks? Drop all the cartoon cars, and every other car line and introduce two new lines of affordable cool quiet cars that use that new capacitor and set up all those new fuel charging stations around the nation.
2.) grab Sony, foreclose on Michael Jackson and finally own The Beatles catalog (a lifelong ambition, for Jobs,too!)
3.) buy Flash from Adobe (but don’t buy Adobe).
4.) invent the next generation search engine that finds and organizes and customizes EVERYTHING on the web for every user.
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Wow! This topic is really interesting. But it always came to the bottom line and the most important of it all… where’s Steve anyway?
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I know I am not the first to say this. And I know there is judicial precedence against what I am about to say. But person’s personal health is protected by law. And that protection should not exclude anybody.
Ownership in a public company is ownership in the company. If you feel that it is too risky to be involved in a company micromanaged by a single individual, then don’t. A single individual in good health can die.
Mr. Jobs is too young to be battling the illnesses he is. That is unfortunate for him. I feel bad for him as I would anybody else. Go put your money in something less risky. You have a choice.
The symptoms and pathology of pancreatic cancer may help explain Steve Job’s six month hiatus to deal with “hormonal imbalances”. The exocrine pancreas produces enzymes necessary for food digestion, whereas the endocrine pancreas produces hormones that serve various functions. No need to include hearsay in considering his current health and situation; Steve’s obvious weight loss, past history of pancreatic cancer, (2004) and own statements are at the very least circumstantial, (“hormonal imbalance” was telling). He could have a recurrence of pancreatic cancer, (very possible) or be experiencing the side effects of reduced pancreatic function, but be otherwise cancer-free.
Depending upon the type of pancreatic cancer, (adenocarcinomas of the exocrine pancreas are especially common, but also very deadly) his prognosis in 2004 would probably not have been very good. The 5-year survival rate for patients with pancreatic adenocarcinoma is about 5%. One has to assume that Steve received the very best medical care available, so his particular prognosis was likely better than average. Nevertheless, the 5-year mark is upon him, and the circumstances – on the outside looking in, at least – appear grave.
By not coming right out with his present condition and prognosis, he’s simply buying time for Apple’s heirs apparent. Apple stock may well tank if he were forthright. A six-month window buys time for the market to get used to an Apple – and a world – without Steve Jobs.
Wow. The comments are filled by Apple employees hired to trash Bob. What does that say?
Oh, and several idiots too.
I guess when Steve returns from Nepal and we find out how his Ayurvedic diet and medicine worked for him, then we’ll all have an answer.
I believe what Bob said; but I pull for the opposite.
Steve seems like a relative, even though he does not know that I exist.
Well… it’s been a week since his last post, so Bob must be dead. I see no other reasonable conclusion.
While Steve Jobs is a man of great vision his vision does have some huge blindspots. I think force-marching Mac OS to a robust unix base was an incredibly sound decision. On the other hand, it seems to me Apple had a window of opportunity during the Vista fiasco (pun intended) to gain a lot more market share than it did. It didn’t because of the Job’s insistence on premium pricing and disinterest in developing even a minimal enterprise strategy. As a road warrior I’m getting annoyed with absence of an accessory keyboard (there aren’t even hooks for a third-party one) for the iPhone or a netbook. Those are also doubtless Jobsian decisions.
It’s been 9 days since we’ve heard from Bob, I wonder if something has happened to him? I have it on good word that steve might have paid him a visit.
Maybe he set his status to “inivisble”.
I laughed out loud at that one. I only post that because I laughed so hard the cat meowed.
I don’t use this word very often, Mr Cringely, but you sir- are a douchebag. A complete and utter douchebag. SHAME on you, sir. SHAME on you.
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Bit harsh from Tony though.. or was that meant in jest?
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There’s been a lot of serious and unpleasant overreaction on this thread in response to Bob’s article. It wasn’t one of Bob’s best (to put it mildly) but he certainly didn’t deserve the trashing he got. Steve Jobs’s health is an important issue in the computer industry and should be open for discussion (but in a less sensational and more sensitive way, though).
Take a listen to Jobs’ 2005 Stanford commencement speech to find out what’s wrong with Cringely’s speculation.
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