With more than 200 reader comments submitted already it is clear that my column from earlier this week about America’s next frontier is a hot topic. I asked readers to tell me what they thought would be (should be) our next area of national expansion and the responses ranged from single words to essays and I learned a lot from all of them. But this is such a fertile and complex topic that no one reader (or even one columnist — me) can be expected to encompass it all in a single session, but we can try and will, right here, right now.
What our next frontier clearly isn’t is any single industry. Nanotechnology and biotechnology and alternative energy technologies are all important, true, but none of them constitute a frontier any more than saddles or buffalo or Winchester repeating rifles constituted the American west of the 19th century. These industries may be tools, components or enablers of future frontiers, but they don’t constitute the frontier, itself. Nor does the Internet, where you are reading this.
Industries or technologies or media can’t define a new frontier because they haven’t in a long time fostered migration, which is a key component of any frontier. A frontier is, after all, a place, a line of demarcation, the interface between here and there. And while it’s true that there is some implied line of demarcation, I guess, between people who use the Internet and those who don’t, they typically live on the same streets and few people move specifically to get better Internet service. If they did we’d all live in Korea.
There are technology waves that one might be tempted to identify as frontiers, but even these are not. The best one that comes to mind is NASA’s Apollo Program of the 1960s. Just look at the advances in electronics, materials, structures, and information technology that sprang from landing a dozen men on the Moon! Those advances led directly to many of the technologies we have today and they can be linked back to specific NASA requirements, which confirms government’s role as a funder of research, but doesn’t in itself make the Apollo program anything like a frontier.
It’s an odd connection to make, perhaps, but I think frontiers have a lot in common with movie scripts or novels. If you take a scriptwriting class you’ll learn that at the heart of every movie, whether it is comedy, tragedy, or even documentary, is someone with an unfulfilled need. My child has been kidnapped and must be found; we must destroy this enemy military installation; I need money and only know how to steal cars; I want revenge; I want love; I want redemption; I want the survival of my people: the meerkats are in danger! Same with frontiers, which are breached and expanded by people who like what’s out there more than they like what’s in here.
One thing about frontiers is they are optimistic. There is risk in braving a frontier or we wouldn’t so easily use the verb “braving.” Yet we do brave frontiers and for good reasons: 1) the potential rewards are huge, and; 2) we feel up to the task.
Where one reader said the next frontier is hope, they weren’t far off.
Let’s take this a step further. Why are frontier’s optimistic? In large part it is because to even be called a frontier in the sense we’ve been using the word a lot of people have to be successful there. Taming the Wild West wasn’t the lore of thousands of books and movies and TV shows because we failed at it but because we succeeded. The California Gold Rush was a rush because people found gold, not because they didn’t. And when there is an expectation of success, it gets a lot easier to say “yes.”
We see this from time to time, too, in speculative bubbles. Remember Alan Greenspan’s mention of “irrational exuberance” describing the last decade’s housing bubble. Remember the dot-com IPOs of the 1990s which were based, in retrospect, on nothing but an unlikely potential for success seemingly built of Super Bowl commercials. Those times were crazy yet we didn’t feel crazy, we felt excited. But those weren’t frontiers any more than was landing on the Moon.
Optimism is not in great abundance these days so irrational exuberance isn’t either. In fact it is a lack of hope that may well keep us from even attempting the next frontiers at all. Pessimism, it turns out, is a powerful force. Remember when the term liberal used to mean something good and conservative meant stodgy? Today pessimism has corporations hoarding cash in case they need it, stunting growth in the process and guaranteeing they’ll need it. See, we were right!
Sure you were.
From a structural standpoint, here’s my view of what is getting between us as a people and the next frontier. Humans are a species divided along social fault lines into four groups:
1) The players — people who are tasked to solve the problems of society in order to keep the system alive — scouts, guides, buffalo hunters, scientists, and startup founders.
2) The observers — people who for one reason or another have the time and willingness to make it a habit to know as much as they can about what is going on but have no direct connection to the players. Most of my readers are in this category.
3) The entrops — people who are actually bringing the whole system down either through greedy parasitic removal of necessary resources or because they feel society cannot be repaired and the only hope is to crash the system so it can all begin again. Only in their minds we’ll rebuild the system “the right way” this time. They use terms like “starve the beast.”
4) Everybody else, which is to say the consumers who actually pay the freight.
The only one of these groups capable of doing real harm to the system — to society — is the entrops. As entrops infiltrate the other divisions the system begins to falter. At some entrop infiltration level the system will collapse. Look at the paralysis in Washington.
The final frontier is the domain of human soul, discovering a way to inspire the human race with hope of a better tomorrow and to even transform entrops into hopefuls. Hope defeats entropy.
Bob Dylan wrote, “When you ain’t got nothin’, you got nothin’ to lose.”
My corollary is, “When you ain’t got hope, you got nothin’ at all.”
The irony here is that the simple application of hope would almost overnight reverse the structural economic problems of most nations. It’s not that we don’t have enough money but that the money is being controlled by entrops who see no good reason to use it and every reason not to use it. The only thing that will beguile them from hopeless to hopeful is the attraction of a clear and unambiguous new frontier.
What should that new frontier be? It almost doesn’t matter as long as it is big enough to capture the fancy of hundreds of millions of people. Your ideas are just as good or better than mine. But since I have a couple favorites I’ll throw them on the table. I think our next frontier should be a combination of additive manufacturing and autonomous flight.
Huh?
Additive manufacturing is currently exemplified in 3D printing, where prototype devices emerge from plastic baths, sintered by lasers, only at my little company we make things of titanium. Additive manufacturing is in the middle of a revolution that within a decade will have usable devices appearing in volume and at competitive prices from backyard sheds and sold into local commerce.
We’re talking car factories in every city serving just that city — factories that could make you a 2020 BMW or a 1936 Auburn Speedster, you pick. We’re talking local manufacturing of everything from gutters to semiconductors. Additive manufacturing will change the way things are built and the people who build them.
Now if only everybody had an airplane!
For all but the last century man has functioned strictly in two dimensions, traveling the earth and seas but only marveling at the air. Invention of the airplane changed that a little, yet today less than a quarter of a percent of Americans know how to fly. What if we all could fly? A decade from now we just might.
Technology exists today for people to fly by themselves, quickly, quietly, with little or no pollution, from anywhere to anywhere in any weather, asleep or awake, because the real pilot is a computer. A decade from now, thanks to Mooreʼs Law, this technology will be the price of a car.
What would the world be like if you did not need a road or even a driveway? How would demographics change? Would our crumbling infrastructure still need repair?
Meet George Jetson. He has an electric aerial vehicle that takes him where he needs to go. But he does not fly it; the vehicle flies itself, knowing to the centimeter where it is anywhere on earth, lighting like a dandelion fluff with thirty thousand other such fluffs over a major city, each going its own way yet aware of all the others. This is where transportation is headed.
All of these components exist today — electric aircraft, GPS navigation, autopilots from aerial drones that can do all the work including takeoffs and landings in the dead of night while Mama nurses a sick child in the back seat. Aircraft that come when you whistle for them just like Trigger.
What qualifies autonomous flight as a good frontier is that it fits beautifully in the traditional frontier paradigms of population expansion and steadily increasing property values. American frontiers, as I wrote earlier this week, have long been paid for with free or inexpensive land. 40 acres and a mule, land rushes, railway rights-of-way and all the way back to royal land grants were responsible for populating much of America, taking the value of Manhattan from $40 worth of Dutch trinkets to $1 trillion worth of concrete and steel today. Yet today our property values are out of whack and often decreasing as we urbanize, de-industrialize, turn more and more to corporate agriculture, great swaths of our land going back to the state they were in Revolutionary times.
Reforestation in the American northeast, for example is happening faster than deforestation is happening in the Amazon. Yet we have no reforestation policy (we should — we could probably get carbon credits from it), we’re just neglecting the land.
Here’s a picture taken out my living room window in Santa Rosa.
See that ridge across the valley from me, framed by trees? There’s a rocky peak and to the right of that a shoulder of grass dotted with oak trees. I would like to build a house right there, among the oaks, looking west toward the sunset. Though only about three miles from where I live that spot of land could just as well be on the Moon. There is no road to it, no power, no water (yet) and as such that little patch of land, less than 50 miles from San Francisco, is almost worthless. But if I could build a house up there the view would be amazing, looking all the way south to San Francisco and all the way west to the Pacific. On foggy mornings I’d be above the clouds.
All I’d really need to live and work up there are water, power, and transportation. I could dig a well or maybe harvest water from the coastal fog, I could generate power from solar or wind. These are easily within reach today. But to reach Safeway or Google I’d need to fly. That part is almost here, too.
A large part of the promise of the Internet, circa 1999, was that businesses could operate anywhere. IBM even did a TV commercial about that. Yet businesses for the most part don’t operate just anywhere. They are tied to infrastructure and transportation links. But they might if we replaced 100+ million cars with the same number of aerial bots.
Combined with superior communications we could live and work almost anywhere, our impact on the land would be more dispersed and therefore less. Our infrastructure needs would be dramatically reduced. And we’d have a whole new industry to drive the 21st century just the way automobiles drove the 20th. Now that’s a frontier!
This is a bold and visionary article.
Given the way industrialised nations work, people have to travel to offices etc, usually at the same time, meaning traffic jams, buying fuel sitting in traffic etc.
[Me – I ride a bike 10 miles to work most days, or catch a train].
I would settle for a job site which showed jobs visually on Google Maps, and an ability for people to find a job closer to home. Less commuting, less time away from the kids, lower fuel bills, less traffic etc.
I’m self-employed, so not really for myself, but it would be an interesting move generally.
Bob, I think this one of the best columns you’ve had in YEARS, and I’ve been reading them since the InfoWorld days. You may get a lot of crap from “realists” about this one, but realists aren’t the ones who make the big breakthroughs.We could all use a little dreaming and a little hope right now. Thanks again!
Maybe, but there’s a lot of columns to compare with.
Plus, he’s missing a big obvious point.
Why are we needing to travel everywhere all the time? What a waste.
One of the interesting parts of the internet is that you can virtually travel at the speed of light. If you’ve ever sat in a Halo system (not the game) and video conferenced across the table from colleagues on another continent, and it’s really like you’re being there, you know that with more bandwidth and resolution that much of the need to travel goes largely away.
You still need some way to get your stuff (you know, like food), but that will obviously be handled by optimized deliveries paid for by larger economies of scale. It will be hugely more efficient to have all the stuff for your neighborhood delivered together than for each of you to dart around willy-nilly getting a few things at a time. Think of the energy savings? It’s green!
While it may not be a grand frontier, I suspect the decentralization of America is coming. The internet brings most of the benefits of city living to the hinterlands, and allows for a new kind of more civilized existence that I suspect many of our citizens would really like.
And that kind of decentralized system has huge advantages, not the least of them that we would get our commute time back, in addition to not wasting enormous amounts of energy idling in traffic and making wasteful milk runs. It also makes us, as a society, much less susceptible to epidemic and to terrorism.
I recognize the possibility that computers would make more general flying feasible, but I cannot imagine that we will remove the huge energy costs required by personal flight. Until you solve the problem of cheap, clean energy, I don’t see us all taking to the skies in large numbers. In fact, before we solve the problems of easy flight, let’s use the same technologies to reduce some of the traffic slaughter on our streets. Seems like a much easier problem to me.
Think bigger. People need to travel, but not far. You could bring things they need to them (groceries, devices, ec) but you will also need to bring other people to them. Hence, personal travel. Unless you do not believe in the need for personal interaction, families and touch? Long distance travel will be reduced but that accounts for only a tiny fraction of our actual time traveling – which is dominated by commuting. As for the price of flight, what is the price of road maintenance, mass transit, loss of land to ashphalt, etc? One problem is that no one can just switch a society and there will need to be parallel systems. What if you cannot afford a flybot? But that is entrop thinking. Engineers will find solutions and adoption of new technologies will occur when they become compelling.
I too thought this was one of Bobs best columns for a while. We can all find holes in the ideas, but that is true of anything bold. The challenge is to shift the balance from the entrops to the crazy ones.
P.S. Bob, I’m a scientist, but never considered myself a player. 🙂
Much to digest…. I need a reference for ‘entrop’; nice term, perfectly descriptive.
How’s this for a reference?
https://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10054/1037783-109.stm
Thanks…. but I’m still confused; or was that the idea? More entropy. Energy wasted and nothing to show for it.
By the way, I always thought that your military was far and away the largest governmental expenditure…
Not very.
I can see the additive manufacturing coming as a way to bring America back into the industrial revolution days albeit at a purely custom level instead of mass production. Interesting. It wouldn’t take much to get a maker bot up and going and starting a home based custom manufacturing biz. Power to the people as it were, bypassing all the middle men.
As for flying… When I was in Alaska in 2004 they were testing out the next generation airplane navigation system. It was pretty neat, GPS, 3D terrain wireframe and it would show you how far you could get if you had to glide. Bad for a 747, but good for small planes. With all of those small tiny Cessna’s floating around flying all over the place in relative isolation it was a good test bed. I can see the “flying car” but I think it’s going to take a lot longer than a decade. We’re still not off of oil and living next to a regional airport I HATE it when they seemingly buzz my house. It’s obnoxious. Small planes would need to be cheap, ultra ultra mind bogglingly reliable and nearly silent.
I can already do my job from anywhere, if only my employer would let me.
Additive Manufacturing for auto’s is already happening in America – Local Motors!
Touché on 3D printing and flying Bots – you on target as are hundreds of micro-companies stating out without the help of VC’s, Wall Street & the like … Great follow up article Bob! Thanks!
“3) The entrops — people who are actually bringing the whole system down … They use terms like “starve the beast.””
Odd juxtaposition. The main context I’ve heard the latter phrase is in conservative theory, whichaims to save the private/market system from the perceived growing-out-of-control government that is a risk to it. I hope you have another citation of the phrase in mind, else it’d be confusing friends and enemies of your economic frontier idea.
If you are not familiar with Paul Moller you should check out his ideas. He has been working on the flying car idea for a long time.
https://www.moller.com/
Sure Moller has been working in flying cars for years, but with remarkably little success. Look at the history:
– the M.400 never flew except maybe once or twice as a tethered, stripped-out shell
– the M.300 was apparently a non-flying exhibition model
– it seems that the saucer-like M.200 never got out of ground effect, just like the
much earlier Avro Canada saucer, and *that* had a jet engine.
The fact that the Terrafugia Transition was designed and flown in a fraction of the time should give you a clue about the M.400’s feasibility. IOW Moller’s ideas aren’t really practical. Apart from anything else, would you really enjoy having a next neighbour own an M.400? It was meant to have 960 hp in the shape of a pair of unsilenced Wankels driving ducted fans on each corner. Imagine the racket that thing would make taking off or landing, let alone the effect of its slipstream on your roses. Lets look a bit closer:
– Helicopters are bad enough. A Robinson R44: four seats and 250 hp (183 kW) driving a 10m diam rotor, so each square meter of rotor is absorbing 2.33 kw.
– Guessing that the M.400 ducts are 1m diameter you’ve got a total of 3.2 sq.m of duct absorbing 960 hp (718 kW), or 224 Kw per square meter.
If we assume equal efficiency and that the four place M.400 weighs the same as the four-place R.44, the M.400 downblast during takeoff or landing would be 96 times faster than that from the R.44 and has to be: if both vehicles weigh the same, both have to displace the same mass of air downwards to hover, so the downwash speed varies inversely with its cross section. Imagine that howling gale blowing across your patio and filling your pool with your potted plants!
Theres the noise too: both have unsilenced piston engines, and airflow noise is at least proportional to airspeed so if you’d object to your neighbour operating an R.44 from his tennis court, you’d HATE him having an M.400 in his garage.
I, too, am familiar with Mr. Moller’s work. He once spoke to my EAA chapter (this was at least 15 years ago). His greatest skill appears to me to be raising money, not building flying cars. I’ll leave it at that.
And your proposals would further chip away at the concept of nationality which is a 19th century concept that we’re still bound to despite the fact it’s become insanely impractical in the 21st century no matter who you are.
Nationalism is the problem. Bob is still thinking, as so many americans do, in nationalistic, not global, terms – “america’s next frontier”. All the time america is slipping out of view in the rest of the big wide world. By the time it finishes agonising about what its “next frontier” might be, no one outside is going to notice.
If I were a Native American, I’d start saving my beads now! It might not be too long before the price drops so far that it becomes possible to buy the place back and kick out the invaders.
No, I write that way because two thirds of my readers are in the USA. These trends apply as well in India as they do Indiana, but I know my audience and try to tailor it for them.
Bob, how about a shout-out to your lunar cave dwelling audience?!
Bob,
Woah Nelly! About this “we all get our own missile driving license” thing (unthinkably coupled with the additive manufacturing)… Just what we need. Everyone’s alcoholic neighbor rolling out of the driveway in his vintage 1944 Me 262 A-1a (if built to original specs, could run on simple diesel oil) for a night out on the town… Not that a present day airline pilot’s never been caught taking a pre flight nip. But you get my point. This concept, rolled out every year by Popular Mechanics since 1116 B.C., needs another evolutionary cycle or two of human society (and air traffic control…now there’s a topic for you to riff on) before we start handing out keys to the ol’ jetpack.
…but your overall vision here is wonderful. Seriously.
– tech consultant, aviation buff and always a fan Bob.
Look up the meaning of “autonomous”. The auto-pilot is the only way to fly. In fact, FUI wouldn’t even need to be on the statutes. A drunk locked into their flybot is likely less likely to do damage to themselves or others than a drunk on their own two feet. The only way mass personal flight could work is via total automation. Think Google-plane (or for more style but perhaps fewer options in destinations, iFly).
The UAV (drone) market is quickly driving autonomous flight technology. There’s a Spanish company that already has its autopilots taking off and landing thousands of drones all over the world. Now if only their stuff would get a little less expensive… I know about this because I am involved with a UAV propeller company whose products are OEM’d and sold all over the world by Boeing.
I’m not proposing drunken flight in ME-262s. But I’d sure like to be able to take a nap en route in my little airplane, that is after the movie is finished playing.
Ok Bob. Let me hear you say it: Volantor. Come on. V-O-L-A-N-T-O-R. Despite your avowed interest in all things aviation I do believe you have purposely avoided mentioning Paul Moller and his Skycar, in any edition of this column. On the eve of its first public free-flight demonstration your deliberate slight of Paul Moller but waxing poetic about personal air transportation that doesn’t need runways is just bizarre. Why play cat’s paw with Moller?
It does seem that some people are dissatisfied with the progress of the Skycar but keep in mind they haven’t killed anybody in the course of its development. That’s a much better record than the V-22 or even Scaled Composites has achieved. Experimental aircraft are DANGEROUS as the first full flight of Spaceship 1 revealed. John Denver found that out the hard way too.
Steve Fossett’s demise is a reminder of how dangerous flying small, inexpensive aircraft irregardless of how safe their record is or how experienced the pilot. Just recently it has been revealed that the USAF’s drone fleet has been hit by a computer virus so automating aircraft (or cars) is obviously not a guarantee of safety given the current state of computer technology.
I think you are wrong about this one. Not gonna happen in our lifetimes. But, if you disagree I suggest carefully studying Chuck Yeager who could have died a dozen times over in his long aviation career but didn’t.
As Richard, an old friend of mine, used to say: “There’s old pilots, there’s bold pilots, but there’s no old bold pilots.”
While we’re talking airplanes I’d like to plug the Wedell-Williams Memorial Aviation Museum in Patterson, LA. Come down and visit us in March and you can attend the Cypress Sawmill Festival, oogle the Sawmill Festival Queen, play golf on our award-winning 18 hole course, eat Cajun food, enter your antique car in the car show and see the steam engine display among things to do. You could fly into the Patterson Airport and call me. I’ll pick you up and drive you around. Even give you a nice place on the bayou to stay. (Just Bob and his family, not everybody else. The rest can stay at the local Days Inn.)
All this constant talk about shameless showmanship is catching.
I mentioned Mr Moller’s work in a previous response: I am seriously unimpressed. His numbers don’t — and never have — made sense. Yes, he’s never killed anyone but then his devices have also never flown despite more than three decades of development. The rest of your comment is just name-dropping and aphorisms. I don’t see that you are even trying to make a point.
My point is I’m disappointed in Moller. And I kinda hoped you’d be able to provide some wry commentary on his situation.
Bob, I’ve been fascinated by the idea additive/on-demand manufacturing for several years. It stated with my father-in-law, who was an EE at H-P’s Boise, ID LaserJet Lab showed me a stereo lithography machine they used for rapid prototyping of printer chassis’ in 1997. Maybe what we need now is an Additive Manufacturing analog to the “HomeBrew Computer Club” The innovations in this area could prove to be a real disrupter to overseas-based manufacturing and get skills, jobs, and capital flowing back here in the United States.
Printers are already available for sale – https://www.amazon.com/RapMan-Ultimate-3D-Printer-TurboCAD/dp/B005OSFP0I
And you can buy what people make with them(or just the designs themselve) at – https://www.shapeways.com/
Looks like crooks like 3D printers too.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/09/gang-used-3d-printers-for-atm-skimmers/
You mean like this?:
https://www.makerbot.com/
I’d love to see you move to the summit! I can already picture you building a Pringles can WiFi antenna, climbing a giant pine tree, and aiming it at a little coffee shop down in the valley just to get internet access!
Nice! I had it partially right, I just lack your overall vision. 🙂
This is an interesting frontier. I will be excited to be a part of it or whichever one comes next. One is coming, just don’t know where and for who. 🙂
This is the first and last comment that I will ever leave on this site. I have been reading for approximately a year, and have learned a number of things about the tech industry and innovation during that time.
However, I cannot believe how short-sighted and ignorant Cringely’s last post was. Flight is neither efficient nor cheap. It is one of the most wasteful technologies ever invented by humans. Compact, dense cities served by nearly frictionless ground transport (mainly rail) are the only proven way to organize a modern society.
I am truly shocked at the retrograde sensibilities that lead Cringely to suggest that 7 billion people on this planet could all co-exist and function with personal flight vehicles! It is stupid beyond belief, and I will never return to this site.
(I also combine this with his complete idiocy regarding Jobs’ resignation from Apple a few months ago – dozens of readers pointed out that this was likely nothing more than an end-of-life health issue, but Cringely insisted on some grand story.)
For what it’s worth, I am an academic research scientist at a major university…
… and how do you visit relatives if they live across the country?
I’m with Cringely on this one. From Einstien
“You can never solve a problem on the level on which it was created”
I’ve been working on a new airplane. I have a part-time gig about to start that will require that I be in Los Angeles one day per week and I’d like to fly there.
I did this before back in the early 1980s when I flew my Rand KR-1 down from Palo Alto one semester to a teaching gig I had at Cal State Northridge. The KR-1, if you aren’t familiar with it, is a single-place VW-powered aircraft. I built mine in a one-car garage for a grand total of $1300. It cruised 140 mph (about 120 knots) burning 3.5 gallons-per-hour. Van Nuys is 263 nautical miles from Palo Alto where I lived back then so the trip each way took about 2.5 hours burning nine gallons of regular car gas which back then cost about a dollar per gallon. So my commute to work cost me $9 each way. Parking the plane was free and I took the bus to class. Now I don’t know what Amtrak cost to L.A. in those days, but I’d guess it was more than $9 each way and the train would be hard put to get me close enough to Northridge to take a bus.
The plane I am building for my new commute is smaller even than that old KR-1. It is a modified Quickie Q-1, which was originally designed by Burt Rutan. I’m building mine from carbon fiber because I scored some cheap carbon fiber and why not? The engine is a turbocharged three-cylinder Suzuki from a Pontiac Firefly, which you could only buy in Canada. By the time I am done this plane should cruise near 200 mph (just over 180 knots), my trip (this time to Santa Monica) will be reduced to about 90 minutes, and I’ll still be using only about 3.5 gallons per hour. Now some things have changed. The final cost for the plane will be around $10,000, up from $1300 in 1980. Car gas is up to $3.80 per gallon. But parking is still free thanks to friends at Santa Monica, my fuel cost has gone from $9 to $20, but my income has risen some, too. And while I basically followed US-101 south 30 years ago, this time I’ll have GPS, synthetic vision, and even an autopilot. How, again, is the train better than this? Telepresence might be better, sure, but some of us fly planes for fun.
That sounds like a great project! Where can we buy a copy of the plans for the Q-1? I see lots of sites out there but nothing that looks like the “official” source…
There is no longer an official site for Q1 plans, but I bought mine from the QuickHeads web site.
Bob,
I’ve watched the Quickie and it is clean and fast. Are you installing a BRS system?
Why the Q-1 and not the Q-2?
Have you seen the Cri-Cri, a smaller twin with full aerobatic capabilities?
https://www.alpineworldwide.com/alpine_global_cricri_project.htm
Unfortunately only ~120 successful builds to date.
Electric version at the Paris Air show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuw-CZe1qdQ
I understand when carbon fiber shatters it develops very sharp shards. I’d find that a tough choice.
I don’t know about flying cars… but lighter cars definitely!
– I’ve had a vision of a mass-transit/personal vehicle hybrid for a while now.. depends entirely on enabling people to feel safe in lighter vehicles.
As far as the personal manufacturing.. it’ll be interesting to see products where you build the patent-encumbered parts yourself 😉
“I’ve had a vision of a mass-transit/personal vehicle hybrid for a while now.. ”
Oh, you missed that boat. That was the 1992-1995 Honda Civic VX. I have one and it’s managed to average 41 mpg in mostly city driving since I bought it in 2005. A few times it got over 50 mpg. Mileage is degraded as air temperature increases. I was toying around with alcohol or even water injection to reduce the intake temperature during the summer months but it was suggested this would be hard on the rings.
Some moron stole it the other day. I ran out the apartment and almost caught the guy. The car was found abandoned five miles away without a scratch. He took the change out of my ashtray for all his effort.
but the huge technological enabler for flying cars is a cheep source of fuel for them … so back to the new/free/green energy idea then?
If you read my comment above about flying to L.A., notice that 30 years ago I made about three dozen round-trips (a pretty good sample) averaging 33 mpg at 140 mph. Show me a car that could do that in 1980 OR in 2011. My new plane I expect to get close to 50 mpg at just under 200 mph, which beats the crap out of any car. Electric power is coming, as is hydrogen, but people tend to forget that airplanes fly like crows and have far lower drag coefficients than even the best race cars. Aircraft are a better use of our current energy supplies.
In the arena of human endeavor, a frontier is not a goal nor an objective. It’s way above the needs of a few narcissistic geeks, the joys of some techies, the wet dream of some engineers, manufactiurers and economists, the greed of Banksters and hopes of Joe Six Pack.
A frontier is a perceived unreachable nirvanna that is a game changer for all of humanity.
We solved the frontier of moving human existence beyond being animals with the recognition of our souls, organization and intellect by establishing language, religion and churches. We solved the frontier of humanity’s modern existence and forward movement of life improvement by addressing it with the written word, cities and urbanization. We solved the frontier of humanity’s problem of what to do with modern life through industrialization, consumerization and enrtertainment.
Our next frontier is how to make a good thing last forever and make it feel good for our souls.
Without doubt the most important word you have written on this subject is ‘hope’.
Unfortunately it is, in the USA, today something that is scarce and elusive. Looking for the next frontier is all about the hopes of a people, not individuals. Go back an look at history. The UK is a great recent example. Can you imagine what it must have been like living throught the Agricultural Revolution and then the Industrial Revolution – incredible frontiers that inspired incredilbe change and what can be seen as advancement. But what happened to the UK? (The UK that used to be called Great Britain!) – it ran out of steam. Cultural steam and economic steam. It came up against the apathy that human nature creates when the people begin to think that the world owes them a living simple because they a live in a superpower. This is nothing new – ask Ghengis Khan, the Greeks, the Romans. The UK lost the ability to brave new frontiers. Now it is the turn of the USA to suffer that disfucntionality that may be down to the entrops you identify.
Am I just a product of apathy – no. I am a serial entrepreneur who has spent the last ten years building a start-up that is going to have a massive impact in the provision of new tech that enables viable online business models centred round access to information and deliver of that access. I am not an entrop, I have not given up but I have accepted that the UK has past its prime. It may be that people like you will drive the USA forward but you cannot drag a nation with you if the culture of that nation has morphed into something not very nice.
Sorry to seem defeatist but as an individual I am not. Its just that I recognise that my nation lost its way after the Industrial Revolution and I do not see a way to change the psyche of the Brits.
I encourage you to drive on the way you are but it is probably too late to take your nation back to ‘greatness’ again.
You sir, are smoking crack. Seriously. Flying cars?!?
Or maybe I just lack hope.
Bob,
You know I love you, but where are you going to park your plane?
Your example of flying into the SF Bay Area won’t work. If there’s no where to park a car, then where will you park your plane? You’d have to build new high rises to fly into to park. I suppose that’s possible, but that’s a whole new area of very expensive infrastructure. And there’s not a lot of available real estate. And think of how much that parking spot in the Financial District would cost. I don’t know anyone that’s not at least a VP or splitting the cost with another commuter/spouse that can afford a parking spot there everyday.
The situation would have to be pretty similar in Manhattan and Chicago.
At best you move far out or on top of a nearby mountain. Fly to some remote parking spot and then get on a bus or train. I don’t think this gets anyone where they truly want to be. All it really does is increase your commute time and expense.
If it isn’t viable for people that live and/or work in the largest population areas, then how much of a frontier can it be? But I wouldn’t mind being shot down (no pun intended) because I always wanted to live like the Jetsons.
SFO, San Carlos, Palo Alto, Moffett Field, San Jose, Reid Hillview, and San Martin (South County) get me within a bike ride of most of Silicon Valley except ironically, Cupertino or Campbell. I get your point, but I have to tell you that in 30+ years of flying in the Bay Area I’ve never been all that troubled finding a place to park or a way to work. Maybe I’m just lucky.
You hit the nail on the head. I was talking about this to a friend a while back after an NPR report about some crazy additive tech. There are some companies that can do this now with materials totally off the table prior: glass, metal, etc.
Mass manufacturing is history, it’s all about mass customization, and we’re not talking about just laser engraving that iPod. It’s all about NOT getting that same defective dishwasher handle replacement part from a barge from a warehouse in China, it’s about getting it from next door, or downloaded right to your own little maker bot, only with bug fixes and design improvements included..
Sociology starts with biology. If you dislike current K strategy (maximize population) and would like to return to R strategy (maximize growth), then you need to return to Victorian values and the 10 kid family. As always, women are the key. Find the right wife, and you can hope, sorry *hop*, on your custom-made plane, and reach for the stars. Will she marry you?
This is all possible, but I don’t see the government approving the concept for mass public use anytime soon. Terrorists could load a few flying planes with explosives and cause mass terror. Drug dealers could transport their goods easily without the use of couriers. These illicit uses are also why I don’t think there has been as much steam behind self driving automobiles as there could be.
If self flying personal aircrafts become a reality, the government will likely require strict control and monitoring. The FAA will have to expand or another agency will be created to handle the influx of monitoring required. Before you go anywhere, your destination will have to be relayed to the FAA or another agency to properly coordinate it. They could even require video and audio monitoring inside the vehicle to make sure everything is on the up and up. Not sure a lot of the people who have grown up with the personal freedom and privacy that a car gives will be accepting of that idea. Acceptance of these these requirements and sacrifices will likely happen over a generation or two.
Bob, following are some of my opinions in this matter. These views may be unconventional in some circles, so take them with a grain of salt. No insult is intended to anyone in this group.
Frontiers are meaningless unless there are people with the desire and drive to exploit them. During the early years of our nation, we had these kinds of people in abundance. However, as a nation matures, it may develop a class of rich and powerful people. This class of people is often referred to as the powers that be (TPTB). A typical trait of TPTB is an all-consuming lust for power over other people. It is a lust that may lead these people into politics and international banking, for example. It is this same lust that leads TPTB to use social conditioning to destroy the desire and drive of the ordinary people.
The solution to our present malaise is to help a significant number of ordinary people to overcome the blocking forces put in their path by the malicious social conditioning of TPTB. Then they will be in a position to develop the desire and drive needed to exploit their natural talents and take command of their own lives. They could start their own small business operations, for example.
As discussed in a previous posting, the ebook linked to my above name describes in detail how to implement this solution.
Bob, while I appreciate the spirit and the intent, I’m not sure that the execution is going to live up to your hopes.
I think it’s pretty much all been said on the personal plane thing: we all want one, but what about the equivalent to the guy with the rusted out 30 year old old beater and no insurance…
I am a big fan of way new tools are coming into reach for small production, I have plans myself. But to think that you can get back to your *old style* economy using the new tools is just not going to happen… there’s plenty of plausible speculative fiction on that subject.
Along these lines, I’d note the recent comments in Salon, Slashdot etc about how the whole “information revolution” didn’t actually turn out how people expected (in an economic and employment senses)
I’m not sure I buy that idea totally, but certainly where I live, you can still make better money as a plumber or forklift operator than as a computer programmer. The poor kids who bought into whole “we can be internet millionaires” thing are banging out graphic art and javascript for minimum wage.
On a positive note, I think we are better placed for innovation than any time in history – I love being able to have an idea in the morning and by lunch I’ve fully researched it… Next year I’ll be able to download the plans for my 3d printer and laser cutter.
I just have no idea how that translates into something that pulls the broader society up by it’s bootstraps…
Your talk of hope reminds me of a letter that was recently published and popular in Canada. The full letter is here https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/08/22/pol-layton-last-letter.html; but the relevant part is the conclusion:
“My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.”
We, as a nation, are aging at an alarming (at least to the aging people, who never saw it coming) rate. As much as the boomers want to ignore their impending demise, it is happening.
As Kirk said to Bones: Gallavanting around the cosmos is a game for the young, doctor.
And one big reason it’s different this recession is because that largest segment of the population that is seeing their house “investment” drop below what they paid for it right when they are thinking about retiring. Nothing puts the brakes on spending like not having any money. We’re looking to buy a house, but as we save for a larger down payment we’re noticing that our money will buy more the longer we wait. Why be in a hurry in this market?
So you are telling that the new frontier that will saves us is free for all consumption and more urban sprawling ?
Nice ramp up with the hope, the new frontier and everything, but the fall is really disappointing. let’s get as far as possible from each other with as much stuff as possible so we don’t know where to put it.
Not designing for obsolescence should be a start, and making a rational use of the land to maximize it’s benefit/productivity/diversity would be great. I prefer the Arthur C Clark vision of dense cities and wild nature. At least it is sustainable, and this could slow the massive extinction of species currently going on.
It is not like you won’t be 500 hundreds to want the same spot on the mountain ridge anyway. This line of thinking goes nowhere.
I guess I’m an entrop. I don’t like the term because it implies backward motion. But, really, you can’t make an omelet without cracking eggs. Refinement and more of the same won’t get us from here to there. This path has become sterile. This place is pareto-optimal. But it’s not the global optimum – far, far, far, from it. The old has to go, to make way for the new, as Steve Jobs said in his 2005 address. Just as Amelio had to go, to make way for Steve.
As always Bob, you’re thoughtful and provocative. Two problems though.
1. Energy
Even if we assume additive manufacturing saves huge amounts of carbon fuel by eliminating intermediate transport of product, all of those humming 3-D printers will still use fuel, plus the transportation of the various raw materials to be fed into their maws. We’ll catch up to prior levels of energy consumption pretty soon and those devices won’t be solar powered.
2. Disease
A free transport society as you envision will wreak ecological havoc across the globe. Migrant workers from all over the planet can seek work without regard for national borders. I’ll drink the Kool-Aid on political and economic benefits outweighing the problems for now, but the range of plant and animal destruction would be enormous and give us a fragile monoculture in a very short time.
Perhaps with additive manufacturing people wouldn’t need to migrate… but if I can choose a life for my family anywhere why would I stay in a place with no political or economic freedom and ecological devastation?
We didn’t give up on space because there was nothing of interest there. It was just too darn expensive to get there and make exploration, let alone exploitation, economically feasible. Frontiers, as we typically envision them, must be cheaper than the alternative of staying put, with their abundant resources counterbalanced by some other factors such as risk to life and limb to explain why they haven’t already been assimilated.
In the absence of exploitable physical space (underwater cities?) energy is the primary area we have to focus on. It underpins everything we do and fueled our westward expansion in the 1800s as well as the electronic expansion since 1980. An interesting note: of the original 12 companies on Charles Dow’s index from 1896 only one company (GE) survives. Of the largest companies in 1896, most were energy companies whose names are still familiar to people today.
The nice thing about 3d printing is that the raw material is much easier to transport. It’s just little balls of plastic. That means not needing all the packing material that goes into finished products, better utilization of cargo hauling transportation, etc. The BNSF (I think) ad that ran a few years ago touting the ability of a train to send a ton of freight 200 miles on a tank of diesel was referring to coal, not finished goods. Coal can be dumped into a hopper car with thin walls and an open top. Finished goods need to be put into shipping containers, protected from damage (and the packing material needs to be protected as well, since the graphics on the box are as important as the product itself), etc. So the cost of transporting finished goods is much, much higher than finished goods.
So you have a few boxes of “raw material” delivered. you load ’em into various hoppers, some machines make permanent goods, like furniture, some make recyclable/compost-able goods, like dishes and plasticware, clothing, whatever (just like the song says: you can even eat the dishes). Heck, if you do it right you might even be able to grind up the furniture and reuse it when you’re tired of it or your needs change. Having moved several large pieces over the years, I’d love to just grind everything up and start over, instead of having to repair scratches and muscle stuff up stairs.
Oops! Need to proofread next time… 🙂
Should read
“200 miles on a gallon of diesel”
and
“So the cost of transporting finished goods is much, much higher than raw material.”
Good point about the lack of packaging in transport saving on the final product. We’d have to determine the materials being used however – if we’re able to do additive manufacturing with metals then the trucks would weigh out before they’d top out and you might not save much, though you could move product in dump trucks instead of containers. Imaging buying your raw materials the way you’d buy mulch now… by the cubic yard. People wouldn’t want to have piles of plastic in their yards for when they wanted to build a new toaster though – they’d order in smaller quantities or put in a build request to a local center for construction. If additive manufacturing really took off people might have a small home unit for their gadgets, but anything bigger would have to come from that local facility. I suppose you could have modular design for larger objects so they could be assembled from the smaller item, but that’s kind of the point for additive manufacturing that the unit is generated as an integrated unit.
Another poster made a comment that he could replace broken parts of products by scanning and duplicating at home. I think manufacturers would quickly respond by embedding electronics and other vital components into sections of products so they’d be unique and unable to be copied from exterior scans alone.
Unless the technology advances such that you can manufacturer circuit boards through the process. Talk about Star Trek replicators! There would have to be fair IP protection for all the inventors out there – chip design isn’t a garage industry. Perhaps tying the printers to a store where you buy the design. That’s a bit intrustive… perhaps you would buy a single ID chip from the manufacturer when you download the design from iAdd and each device would have activation slots built in. That would track updates and modifications too.
I’d rather see in your vision people use flying buses instead of flying cars to reduce our dependency on whatever energy this will consume, since flight takes more energy than cars. Otherwise we’ll still have the same problem as ever : parking. 😉
But yeah, that would be a cool future.
Buses are only greener than cars when they are full. When they are only 20% full, that’s an awful lot of metal to be pushing around.
How long before someone “hacks” to auto mode and goes rouge?
The United States is (by some measures) a developed country. Why are you trying so hard to resuscitate this manufacturing business. Give the money back to the people by way of subsidized education and get the ‘College Degree’ % up. Way the hell up.
Yes there will always be crappy jobs for teenagers and seniors, but for everyone else, you should be aiming to work in the service economy (no that doesn’t necessarily mean white collar. You can be a plumber, and still make tons of $$$. That’s a service).
You’re looking for a place, or a thing to support your population growth and income growth simultaneously. The next frontier isn’t a thing. Stop glaring at the Chinese. At least they’re going in the right direction with their Economy (if you want to needle them for Human Rights, just look where they were 50 years ago. They’re making progress). Stop grasping at the crappy jobs you’re losing to 3rd world countries.
Service Economy. For that you need affordable Education.And yes, this is how grownups think: if you let more people into good schools via subsidies, you’ll get a more educated workforce and more civilized society. You’ll get smarter, more productive people, who earn more money. And then… ding ding ding… they pay you back for those subsidies in higher tax revenues 10-15 years later on in life.
I’d call it brilliant, but, we learn this stuff in Econ 101 in school. It’s f-ing basic. Not news.
The problem is your government is taking it up the back passage from Corporate America and would never “raise taxes so we can subsidize schooling” or “close tax loopholes so we can increase annual tax revenues”…The Companies run the country through soft money campaign donations bla bla bla, the same dog and pony show we’ve had for about 40 years now.
The problem is you don’t have a Democracy.
*Cue Overdramatic Terminator 2 Music*
“Service Economy. For that you need affordable Education.And yes, this is how grownups think: if you let more people into good schools via subsidies, you’ll get a more educated workforce and more civilized society. You’ll get smarter, more productive people, who earn more money. And then… ding ding ding… they pay you back for those subsidies in higher tax revenues 10-15 years later on in life”
This is garbage thinking that was discredited during the ’80s by that mega-brain Margret Thatcher. We’re still paying the price.
Maggie told us that a service economy was the answer and drove the UK down that path. Now we’re in the crapper with exports way behind imports, no jobs for the unskilled and a rising national dept as the inevitable result.
Hmm, come to think of it, much the same happened to the USA as well, overseen by Reagan and Bush I.
OK, so let me get this straight. We should be hopeful and lead lives filled with childlike wonder — fine, got it. This will lead to custom, 3D-printed flying cars & such powered by moonbeams. After a while, we’ll all be smart and special with c-c-computers directing us as needed to Safeway and Google HQ. The author will build a green house on a ridge top, watch the morning fog burn off and then after a languid day of blogging, immerse himself in a classic Kolyfonia sunset.
Jesus man, get a grip! A Chinese industrialist will soon own that scrap of land, and you likely will be pedaling a rickshaw with his kids in the back. They are called mortal sins for a reason.
” Now if only everybody had an airplane!”
Only way it could be viable is if it had VTO and landing.
Bob, great stuff. I would add cheap accessible desalination technology to your brave, new world.
Bob, Great article… but flying cars….. need to think bigger. Looking again at frontiers of the past, what’s missing today is the freedom to take risks without liability. Frontiers were defined not by just open spaces, but the lack of any structure / organization / rules / requirements other than the forces of nature. Individuals and organizations took huge risks to explore the frontiers with the “expectation” that people would be injured and die. Explorers in the new frontiers developed structured knowledge of the frontiers, new technologies to live/survive or expand the ability to explore.
A few examples and I’am sure I have not even thought of the better ones. Think of todays legal/government environment:
1) Would the Wright brothers get the permits for experimental flight or have the money for liability/health insurance and have money for R&D. (Think of doing something so radical that has never been done before, with something that has not existed before, done in non-government approved of regulated spaces).
2) Charles Mackintosh, would he be permitted to buy chemicals and engage in years of experimental research chemistry in a residential unit to develop rubber (applications).
This freedom and lack of liability of completely 180 degrees to society today. We do need regulation and liability management for health and well-being in everyday life.
For the future, what frontier is there that can be explored not just by Governments and the companies with huge resources, but also by individuals who can take the risks without government permits, lawyers on retainer, a visit from (take anti-terrorist or government regulating organization of choice) and a portfolio of insurance products……. And the next great internet web site doesn’t count. 😎
I like your idea for re-industrialization but at a local level as a frontier.
The personal flycraft notion, however, doesn’t appeal to me at all. One of the problems is that people like you would be able to live on that lovely mountaintop on the horizon and soon there would be no lovely anythings in what’s left of our natural world.
I totally agree with David’s comment above and his quote from Arthur C. Clarke. Dense (but beautiful) cities with a wild and open natural world for escape and rejuvenation is where I want to live. Watching thousands of flyfolk continually buzzing the Grand Canyon would kill me.
Beautifully put! Optimism is the driving force and pessimism the anchor that holds us back.
Looking back, as I guess a lot of us have recently, optimism in being able to do just what we (they) wanted against the odds – if indeed there were odds in the new frontiers – is the fuel that drove us to where we are now.
Your own ideas are each and every one, optimistic in a cadre of people who want to do things, make things, improve things. Perhaps we should do more to nurture these buds lest they wither on the vine…
Mixed metaphors a go-go but fully in agreement 😉
New Frontier
I’m late, and haven’t read all comments; maybe this is a repeat.
We already have a “new frontier”. It’s called war. It started in 1941, when there was a real enemy. But when industrialists discoverd the lucretive side of this, it continued and has never stopped.
After WWII, I lived with communists under my bed for 50 years, and when they disappeared, the GOV, DOD and Profiteers almost paniced.
Then 9/11! Now I will have to live with terrorists under my bed for the rest of my life. Did you hear Romney this week? Next “enemy” is China. Our frontier is WAR, and always will be as long as the defence lobbyists hold our congress captive with money.
My life started in 1936, and I have never been without the US involved in a war somewhere.
How do you separate politicians from money, i.e., from K Street, from Wall Street?
“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain.”
“The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.”
– G. Orwell, Nineteen Eighty Four
Flying cars for the masses? Not in this century.
Flying cars is great but, what would make a beautiful view for you would spoil a little piece of the view for everyone who can see you. Leave the wilderness alone!
Interesting but uninspiring. A hopeful frontier should be simple, obvious, and inspiring – go west young man. These two separate ideas are each interesting and worthy of developing but they together do not a frontier make.
This usage of the word “frontier” is strange to me. It’s basically a re-definition of the word, entirely. “Frontier” has a very deep embed in the American psyche and I can only assume Americans can’t even imagine the country without one.
Look frontiers were mostly *terrible* for those on them. By definition (the original one) it was a place that only desperate people, evicted from safer places to live by economics or unacceptable religion, ever went. Frontiers were where you were most likely to die, least likely to become rich, and your best outcome was survival so that your kids would have a good start.
I live in one of the last “frontier” places in North America. Calgary didn’t even get its first farmer until after 1870, five years after the Civil War. My grandfather may have dreamed of doing well somehow, but in fact he died in his 50’s, a very poor coal miner. His kids and grandkids did much better, but I doubt we’re a whole lot better off than the grandkids of his brothers that stayed in Scotland.
Canada has a whole lot more existing “frontier” (of sorts, it has Sat. TV) than the US – you have only Alaska, we have the entire remaining north of the continent. But nobody goes there except oil companies and their very temporary employees. Settling down for life at Ft. MacMurray (population soaring towards 100,000) is about as far as “settling” the place goes. Understandably, if you visit in January.
Bob substituting “new kinds of industry” for “frontier” doesn’t wash. The whole time the actual continent was being settled, there were *ALSO* whole new classes of industries being invented, with societal impacts that dwarf even the Internet (which Bob curiously doesn’t mention, though that “cyberspace frontier” has been growing through his whole career). Rail. Telegraphy. Ocean Liners. The Car. Airlines. And let’s not forget the total impact of the “Military Industrial Complex” in which 60 years have been spent turning over 5% (10% ?) of the whole economy to weapons research and production, with spinoffs that humble Apollo.
Those things *enabled* exploring and exploiting the frontier, but they were developed from safe places far from it. Menlo Park was anything but Dodge City. The frontier is the place where even an uneducated, undercapitalized shnook can go and find work because almost nobody wants to go there.
America certainly *needs* a frontier in that it has a large number of unemployed people who lack the education and skills to find work in the safe places that have been tossing them out of the closing factories. Jobs chopping down trees in Alaska or something would be great for them – except big machines run by well-educated technologists do all the tree-cutting these days, thanks anyway.
None of Bob’s suggestions for new high-tech industries have any room for all the grade-11-educated, prison-record black guys (America’s got a million of them…literally) that can’t find work right now.
Now, if you can think up a technology that makes new resources available, but at a cost of needing human beings to operate the technology (which takes only low education to do) and do the exploiting at ugly personal risk…you’ve just invented a New Frontier. Plankton harvesting? Ocean mining? Digging underground for airplane-obsoleting high-speed train tunnels? Pick your favourite SF novel.
It just has to create work for the uneducated and be risky and unpleasant. That’s a “frontier”.
Or, America could decide that it wants to be a nation where everybody is educated and employable at safe jobs. Arguably, that would be a better outcome.
“additive manufacturing”…
Well, everybody though that the MPAA RIAA vrs. Humanity copyright issues were the big fight. Just wait until additive manufacturing hits the scene.
Imagine having a part break (say, a scanner cover made of engineered plastic) and you just take the part off, scan the image with a hand scanner and check some measurements with the schematics being loaded into a program like SketchUp, and then have a the scanned data sent to a local additive manufacturing vendor (say, in a storefront 2-3 miles away), and pick the replacement part up in the next day or so.
You just cut out the manufacture’s entire replacement parts supply chain, which is an enormous source of profit – but also expenses. So this issue can cut both ways – and in doing so, will tell us which corporations are ‘tech smart’ or ‘tech stupid’.
If I’m a big manufacturer (I’m not, just ultra tiny), additive manufacturing is a godsend, because it provides a way to completely redesign the backend operations of my business (Think “Tooth To Tail” ratio). I can cut my spare parts segment down to only large components, and just digitally sell (like Apple) the schematics for the smaller components – only it will be schematics for a $1.99 (or even $2.99) over the internet.
That means all my “Tail” expenses for maintaining parts inventories, staffing, administrative costs (the real killer), and all the inventory related costs can be reduced – maybe even substantially reduced.
Think about the franchising opportunities that could exist with this. If you are a long time manufacturer, you could provide “restore and repair” franchise options to local in-place additive manufacturers all over.
Imagine being a manufacturer, and having a large number of consumer appliances out there, some of which are always going to break. In this environment, your entire repair and spare parts organizations have both been contracted out to local entities located all over the Country. And instead of being limited to say, 100 potential distribution spots, you could have 5,000 potential distribution points – and do it all for a cost that might be as much as a 75% cost savings over what you were spending.
Now, the tradeoff is that you give up some level of control. But with additive manufacturing, that’s going to be the up-front price you get to pay. But the savings and potential gains mean that if you are in manufacturing today, and you want to still be in the game tomorrow, it’s going to be time to take a serious look at radically modifying the way you are doing business.
Wow. Talk about finding a way to change a business model….
There’s a problem with the final frontier being hope. It’s a great idea that just misses the mark. Anyone can be hopeful, anytime. Even in the pit of hell.
Also, hope isn’t a frontier. It’s an emotion. And even if not, it’s PERSONAL.
I think an IDEA can be a frontier though. And to me, what is, or should be, the final frontier, is freedom, as defined and defended by the greats like Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, and many others. Not just freedom to fail (as mentioned above). But freedom to live. Without having the nanny state arrest your kids for selling lemonade or you for owning contraband light bulbs or toilets (and don’t doubt that something like is coming).
I grew up in an America where the last embers of that freedom were being extinguished. I haven’t lived there for many years, but it seems absolutely insane there.
IMHO, in world devoid of freedom, that should be the final frontier.
Where do you live now and does it offer all the freedom you desire?
Ryan, I live in Israel now. As an Orthodox Jew, I live here for religious reasons. But while Israel still has a lot of vestiges of the socialism that used to be dominant here, I feel that personally, there are many attractions here.
Oh, and the “entrops” of the story? You can’t reform them! All you can do is keeping them from harming everyone else by taking away their (literal) play money – the Federal Reserve.
Mr. Cringeley, you must be aware of the source of their power. You mentioned TWO different bubbles. Growing up in Southern California, I also remember the inflation as well as the real estate bubble of the late 1970s. Being a bit older, I remember more clearly the bubble of the late 1980s. As well as the 18-year long bull market 1982-2000 (RIP), also a bubble.
The main source of entropy and destruction in the US today is the banks, or rather the banking system they are all a part of. Postwar, financial debt stood at 0.85% of total OUTSTANDING debt. By 2008, that number had increased to…32.66%. Not a single penny of that debt, contributed anything positive to US economic health. It was 100% parasitical in nature. That banking system is also responsible for every single wealth- and economy-destroying bubble.
These “entrops,” ie these banksters, cannot be reformed or controlled. The only solution, and the one that would give the most hope to the other 99% of the population, is to rein them in and take away their toys, the free money (to them) of the Federal Reserve.
That should be “financial sector debt.” That is, not debt to build or create anything, but rather fund frivolous corporate buyout activity that really benefits buyer or seller, among many other questionable uses that honest money would never fund. Other debt, but financed by real savings, not fiat money, can be and often is extremely beneficial.
Personal hybrid airships are my personal hope.
Cars that turn into aircraft have all the drawbacks of both – requirements for take-off and landing that include infrastructure like airports, qualification requirements to fulfill government regulatory needs (licenses, etc.) and huge outlays of energy to produce and operate them. The only one that have ever seemed remotely useful is the Maverick (https://www.mavericklsa.com/index.html), and even that one isn’t going to please the neighbors when you roar back in with the groceries from Safeway.
However, if I could ever get my 3D printer to work up most of the components for a personal hybrid airship, I could use it to quietly leave the neighborhood, and the cruise off for groceries elsewhere. Granted, some work is still required to get one down to PERSONAL size – see the current models here: https://www.aerosml.com/aeroscraftfamily.php
Ryan, you’re thinking inside the box. The problem is those onerous one-size-fits-all regulations.
For many reasons, an all-electric aircraft makes a LOT more sense than an all-electric car. Such an aircraft needs space to take of and land, but nothing near what even small airports provide. The technology is already such that a reasonably useful model could be sold for under $20K. And that number is diminishing rapidly as the motors, controllers, and batteries continue their advancement.
The thing is, obviously, for aircraft SOME sort of airspace control has to be maintained. Flying in any density needed to service a large city would be impossible otherwise. But the technology already exists to perform this function. It’s the government that gets in the way, and mandates its system, which is geared towards large commercial airliners and small numbers of civilian aircraft, along with military, which monopolizes a gigantic swath of resources (whether RF spectrum, land, airspace, etc) itself. This system has no interest in changing, and will resist all efforts at change.
I think giving everyone on the planet a first world quality of life in an ecologically sustainable way is the next true frontier. Much of the third world is working hard towards achieving the first point but nature is going to intervene to prevent them unless they address the second. There are fortunes to be made in pursuing these joint paths.
I sincerely hope you are right about this (both parts) being the next frontier. It’s foggy to me how a focus will be placed on sustainability with the growing number of entrops, but I still hope.
Actually, what Dylan said was: “When you ain’t got nothin’, you ain’t got nothin’ to lose.” Bob, you made the same mistake as the SCOTUS Supreme Mugwump. Dylan’s site reads as you wrote it here, but if you do the homework of listening to the song, you’ll hear the difference.
Actually, my sincerest and deepest apologies. As a big Dylan fan, I am ashamed of myself. I wish there were a way to delete my previous post. Bob got it right in his quote. JRoberts got the quote wrong, but Bob got it right. I’ve been sick today. That’s my only real excuse for messing this up.
Maybe the real final frontier is humility and integrity 🙂
The real final frontier is the internal frontier.
It’s one that you can’t make people cross. But life is better there, no matter where you live on the earth.
I would say you get closer to God when you cross that frontier, and the main ingredients for the journey are humility and integrity.
God speed to all!
Mr. Anderson,
I think you are SO right on with your observation. I might add honesty to the list as well. What do you think?
Cringely,
Jobs created beautiful products but more importantly he created the infrastructure behind them that made them relevant. Design is only 10% of the equation. The other 90% comes
from the well.
Nimble
Wow, Bob… You’ve still got it in you! Well done! Someone posting here must have struck a chord.
A couple of things…
The theme of ‘hope’ exudes from many of the posts here and that’s great; however, only when it is tied to knowledge does America advance.
Steve Jobs was a visionary. The difference between a visionary and a businessman, is that a businessman forages ahead with an enterprise, trying to arrive at a successful point in the future that is profitable for shareholders. He/she needs to overcome all sorts of aversity as he/she leads a team onward. A visionary can see the future and exactly where the future landing spot will be. From there, it’s an easy task to look back and see where you came from and how you get there. So as a visionary moves ahead, he’s going down a path that in his/her mind, they have already travelled. This is how Steve inherently knew what would ultimately be successful for apple.
I say this only because the future is more important than any ‘New Frontier’ in general terms. Forget the fact that the world is ‘going to hell in a hand basket’ for now. Let’s talk about the future… about the things we already know. From there, anyone reading Bob’s work will be able to do what Steve Jobs has done.
What we know is;
– The worlds population is doubling and tripling from where it is now, and very rapidly at that.
– Computers are getting very fast and very small.
– My kids will wear a computer at all times and be connected to knowledge anywhere at anytime, as well as to their friends and family with a simple voice command.
– There won’t be one square foot of earth that is not covered by Internet coverage and cameras. (Public space, that is)
– The Internet changes everything!
– A manufacturer in say, Asia or India can sell directly to the end user for the retail price, cutting out almost all middlemen, instead of selling to Walmart at predator pricing using the Internet.
– There won’t be jobs for everyone.
– Most people will be living in very close proximity to other humans.
– Food, heat, light, (energy) will need to be very cheap and abundant to support populations out of work.
– Our concept of housing will need to drastically change in order to house those without work.
– Education will be delivered by the Internet and walking or driving to school will be a thing of the past.
– Real printed books will be a rare thing of the past, especially school books. All books will be delivered by a tablet-like device and they will be enriched by sound, videos and movement as you read and listen.
– Gene manipulation will allow my kids to live for well over 100 years, if not 200 or more.
– Cancer will be cured within 10 years.
– Most knowledge will be free and found on the Internet.
OK… Enough for now. That’s a partial list. From that, anyone should be able to take away an idea and create the next Apple. The next big thing is sitting right in front of you all. Can’t you see it?
I have to disagree with several of your points.
– Population increase. The current population of the Earth is just below 7 Billion, expected to go above 7 Billion this month, per UN.
The current populations of Europe, Asia, Asia (excepting the Islamic parts), and North America (Excepting Mexico) is declining. Some like Japan are declining rapidly, with next generation populations expected to be around half of current levels.
The population of Africa is growing, but slowly. Mostly due to disease and war.
The population of Latin America (Carribean, Mexico, Central America and South America) is slowing in growth, and is expected to stop growing within 10 years. (The United States will have a problem in around 20 years. There will no longer be enough surplus Mexicans to balance our population decline with inexpensive Mexican ‘illegals’ as has been done by every US president since Richard Nixon, who was President when the US population exclusive of immigration began to decline.)
The population of the Islamic world is slowing. It is currently at 700 Million, and should peak at around 1 Billion. This will mean problems for Europe, where immigration of Islamic people is used to balance the decline of native Europeans.
Current UN projections have the maximum population of 9 Billion reached within 25 years, with a slow decline following. this is probably optimistic. the experience in Japan and Europe is that once societal norms encourage population reduction, population contracts rapidly. It takes 2 1/4 children per woman to replace the population, on average. The norm in Japan right now is 1. That is also the case in China, and becoming more common in India, Europe and the US.
Within 50 years, we may see a situation where some countries will institute a draft system to require some women to bear additional children beyond what they chose to have. Just look at Television, where the normal family size portrayed is now one child. That is the new norm. Face it, children are expensive. Many women feel that they are fulfilled with one child, and can’t handle the stress of dealing with both work and three children. This is the primary driver. There are also many more women who are not having any children, due to having an increasing number of men who don’t or can’t handle the responsibility of marriage. A woman’s problems with a family are doubled without a mate.
– Computers, true, but we only have around 15 years left for Moore’s Law. The limits have already been reached in the lab. It’s tough to build things smaller than atoms. Physics trumps economics.
– Computer everywhere, I already do, I carry a Smart Phone. This isn’t the future, it’s been with us for over 5 years now.
– Manufacturers selling globally, Shipping costs will limit this. They already do.
It’s just cheaper to ship in bulk, and it always will be. That is the whole reason for Wall Mart, Tesco and the like. The bigger the order, the lower the shipping cost. Also, the larger the order, the lower the mark-up. That is because of the fixed costs of the manufacturer. The current 3D printer revolution that is occurring will not change that, as the costs of single production are still higher than the costs of repetitive operations. This will not change.
Automation is reducing the cost of prototyping it is true, but automation is also reducing the cost of repetitive manufacturing.
-There won’t be jobs for everyone. Wrong. There won’t be enough people with the training for the jobs that are available. But this is a temporary situation. It is the case today.
Unemployment is stated as 9+% in the US today. It is really higher than that. If underemployment is added, it is close to 20% in the US today. But, at the same time, several industries are crying for more trained people. If you can do the electronics and mechanics needed of maintenance of automata, you are wanted right now. The same is true for many programming fields. Companies are reaping the rewards of outsourcing, as they discover that the expertise to maintain and expand computer programs that were outsourced is not in the company.
It’s not that you Can’t find work, it’s that you are not qualified for the work that is currently needed.
– Education will continue to be a social training situation. There may be some additional home schooling, but children will still need to be with other children to socialize. This is not a function of technology. It is a biological process.
-Books will continue to be printed. Electronic books will become the norm, it is true, but books on paper are cheap (relatively) and never run short of power for display. Also, if printed on the proper kind of paper, books on paper last for up to a thousand years. Books as we know them will be with us for many centuries to come. If you want it permanently available, you want a book.
-Gene manipulation is further off than you think. Not for your kids, or even for your grandkids. It will happen, but it’s introduction will be slow and gradual. First will come repairs to defective genes. No more sickle cell anemia, no more Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, no more diabetes. Things like hair color eye function and longevity will come generations later, when the techniques are established and accepted.
-Cancer? Which cancer? it is a general condition, not a specific disease. Some cancers are already curable. Some are not. In many ways, cancers are related to the longevity you are looking for. They are just out of control.
-Knowlege Free? Have you ever heard of IP? ask any music company, or publisher or movie company. There is a very strong group of corporations and powerful individuals who are very interested in keeping knowlege non-free. A great many artists are interested in not going back to the starving artist meme.
Other than that, I don’t see any problems with your post. Perhaps too many popular myths mixed in.
At least you didn’t insist on Global Cooling or Global Warming. No Total Global Government nonsense either.
Some compromises can’t be made. There is no half pregnant or part dead (except perhaps for Schrodinger’s Cat). Islam will not accept Christianity or Voodoo as on equal footing in any majority Muslim country. Don’t expect the Pope to declare that the Hindu Gods are as powerful as Jesus for entrance to Heaven soon either. Starving people will not willingly share part of the food they need if they are to live another day.
Some things don’t change. Others do.
The new frontier.
First of all, you Americans does not live on a different planet than the rest of us. There will not be a American frontier, but a global frontier.
This globe is becoming very small and very crowded. That means that there are a number of things we have to face on a global scale:
There must be room for all of us, so we have to fight intolerance and segregation.
The resources will be limited, which require more green technology.
The economic tension between the different countries must be limited by increased global control of the banking systems. The classical American capitalism will come under increasing fire.
Wiki-consciousness.
Maybe the next frontier starts when America shifts from representative government to hashing out everything through direct rule of the populace through a free and universally accessible Internet. At this point, it couldn’t be any less efficient. Let’s call it Wikimerica. 😉
Now there’s my pipe dream.
How about dramatically scaling back the population of the planet from the current 7 billion to something that is sustainable, without having one of the classic population controls of famine, war, disease do the scaling back?
Logan’s run!? 😉
Soylent Green?
China?
Mother Nature!
According to an article in Scientific American, current global farmland, if used efficiently (meaning as efficiently as current American agriculture does) could sustain a global population of 15 Billion to present American or European standards. We are not expected to reach that 15 Billion, ever, according to the UN population studies. The population is expected to grow by anther 2 Billion, then to decline for the foreseeable future.
Malthus and Erlich were wrong. Population can be sustained without global starvation. We are seeing it happen right now. Famine is presently happening only in areas without meaningful government. In Human terms, famine is a result of ineffective government.
Now, about energy…
How about reading the writings of Julian Simon, in particular The Ultimate Resource. Mr. Simon is a brilliant and articulate spokesman for optimism who refutes everything you said.
Yes, he’s brilliant, articulate, and wrong.
Do the Math: http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/
For quite sometime I have been thinking about 3D printing as a way to create whole new industries. I’m not sure what industries, but I think the technology unleashed in a developed economy like the U.S. has huge potential to build other industries.
3D printing is best suited to prototyping. It is also very good for making hard to find parts.
Other forms of automation are better suited to making large volumes of product. One good use of 3D printing is in the making of the molds that are then used to make machine parts.
So, 3D printing is very good for hobbyists and in new product development. It is not as good for general manufacturing. If you only need a few, then 3D printing is the way to go. If you want to sell to a lot of people, then 3D is best for setting up your factory.
As general automation gets better, we can expect to see factories get smaller, though. A Billion Dollar factory isn’t necessary to make a few thousand, or even a few hundred thousand units.
A factory after all only needs to be sized for the expected demand. Shipping costs factor into that demand too.
It is now cheaper to make all the microprocessors in a few factories and ship them all over the world. That was once true for cars too. It is still true for microprocessors and computers, but is no longer true for cars. Soon it won’t be for computers or computer parts either. Automation is getting less expensive.
One consequence of automation will be that there will be fewer jobs available in manufacturing. Just as in Agriculture, from the 1840’s to today, we went from 80% of the country working in Agriculture to 10% today by using machines and other automata (mechanical mostly in Agriculture), So we are looking at having a smaller number of people working in Manufacturing in the future because of increasing the penetration of automata in that field. That doesn’t mean that we won’t need Manufacturing. After all, we still need Agriculture, We just won’t need as many of us doing it.
That is the real reason that Bob thinks we need a new economic frontier. It isn’t the American West he is looking to replace, it is the Industrial revolution that moved people from the farm to the city.
The American West replacement is going to be Space, but we are not as close to that as Walter Raleigh was with Roanoke. In terms of the Space Frontier, it is still the early 1500’s for us. Columbus has sailed, but the colonies are still in the dim future and we probably won’t see any real Conquistadors, so no big jump start like Spain got.
It took England around 200 years to grow North America to the point where it could get along on it’s own. We shouldn’t expect the Moon or Mars to take any less time.
The American West thus took close to 300 years to become established. Two Hundred under Great Britain and one hundred under the United States.
>All I’d really need up there: water, power, and transportation.
No internet? How about broadband? This blog tells the good stories of the Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs) – the last of the truly independent broadband providers that are bringing broadband to the unserved and underserved parts of the world:
https://www.wirelesscowboys.com/
Electric aircraft?
Your previous column contradicts this:
“Remember new frontiers beget new fortunes and in energy the old fortunes aren’t yet ready to let go. ”
Toyota sold electric SUVs. By 2006 BigOil killed these cars – as seen in this Whodunit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJAlrYjGz8
>in energy the old fortunes aren’t yet ready to let go.
Again if electric cars are killed by Chevron (GM sold them the Niimh patents) why on earth would big oil let your electric plane be developed? :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_encumbrance_of_large_automotive_NiMH_batteries
Welcome to California Bob – wher democracy is still breathing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_16_(2010)
He stated he would have line of sight to San Francisco, so he will have broadband internet. Communications is not the problem here. That one of the four needs for modern life is already taken care of. That just leaves the other three.
Now, if the Thorium Reactor thing works out, that would take care of energy. (There is a small start-up that is trying to get permission to make a car engine sized thorium reactor that would be controlled by a mini-accelerator and produce a couple of hundred KW of electricity. You would go around 5 years between fill ups, and it is a fairly low radioactive emitter when the accelerator is off. Unfortunately, the reactor system is heavy, so it wouldn’t work well in the plastic robot plane Bob is talking about, though it would provide the power for the house (or a semi truck, or motor home.)
The electric plane is still too expensive though. More work needs to be done there.
Great thought provoking column!
The planes-for-all idea is great. But we still need to figure out how to prevent people from breaking into computers and distributing virusses.
The US army uses drones. And the boardcomputers of these drones now appear to be infected with a virus. https://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/
This virus seems harmless, it’s “just” a keylogger, but if consumer flight is to “take off” (pun intended), it would be nice if you could be sure that your computer system is safe.
I believe there was a movie named Runaway which starred Tom Selleck, Gene Simmons, and Stan Shaw among others. In this flick chip technology as so great that robots existed that could do construction work [I found that scary because I thought of more people being out of work]. The movie dealt with the issue of malicious viruses being introduced to the chips.Anyway, Bob’s idea of autonomous flight Jean-Paul’s comment brought the movie to mind.
In the movie, a spy had to install a special chip in the robots to make them change. It is really just like someone cutting your break line to make your car crash. Just as hard, and just as liable to detection after the fact.
It’s not a new kind or risk, just a different way of implementing it.
Yes, there will be a way that someone can kill you. But, it won’t ever be very common.
If the operating system were on a non-writable chip, then that wouldn’t be a problem. If no programs are accepted, then no Virus can run. to change the system, you would have to change the memory. That could only be done by having access physically to the computer.
There are Linux systems that do this, and they allow you to surf the web with no possibility of infection. There are at least three ways of doing this with Linux. Microsoft in Windows is currently experimenting with a way of partly doing the same sort of thing in the planned Windows 8.
If you drive a car that was made in the last 7 or so years, you already have your car with it’s computer. Why would having a plane make you any worse off? It’s something that is already common.
I’m slightly disappointed. Not because it won’t work – I think it might (although there are some obstacles – such as fuelling-costs)
No, I’m disappointed because while it might work in the huge expanses of America, I can’t see it working in much of Europe. But then, I suppose that’s the thing about a frontier – I’d have to move!
For Europe, you would need mass transit, which you already have, and the ability to rent a plane. Then, you could go about your life as you already do. Just rent a plane for vacation. No need to be a pilot. The plane will be the pilot for you. Mass transit will take you to work.
Americans will need the planes because we travel farther, and our cities are usually more spread out than European cities are, American cities though are slowly condensing over time, as they build up instead of out. You in Europe did this 150 years ago. It’s a function of land availability. We are just running into this now. In 150 years, American cities might be as compact as many European cities are now.
Maybe not though, as American cities buildings are not usually built to last more than 20 to 50 years. We do a lot more rebuilding than you do. That makes our cities change more quickly than is common in Europe. You are adopting our ways, however, so your future might be more like ours as the cities go.
Please feel free to correct me if you see anything wrong with this.
Frontiers seem to need more than the usual degrees of freedom to be successful. I love your example of past frontiers made possible by cheap/free land, etc. – are the skies the next land grant?
Frontiers can only exist in the absence of domination by vested interests like governments and corporations. Those interests can best ensure the expansion of human endeavor by providing mechanism or infrastructure and getting out of the way. The trick is in knowing when and how to do so.
Don’t forget the seas. Right now they are used mostly for transportation. With the proper technology, they can be agricultural and living areas. There is a great wealth of raw materials available. We already have small bases for oil recovery, but there is so much more there. The base technologies already exist.
And, there is three times as much surface available as the land we currently occupy. That’s a lot of frontier availability.
I’m about to buy a Thing-o-Matic 3D printer kit. I’m sure it won’t pay for itself, but I have a list of things I want to make with it; just for the fun of it. I’m not entirely sure that once I get the parts put together that it will work properly.
Is this how hobbyists felt in 1975 when they were buying their ALTAIR kits?
Yep. But, there are more resources on the internet for you than we had available in the late 1970s.
You all are forgetting that this crazy scheme was proposed long ago. Please leave the hard work of planning for the next Utopia to professionals like me:
http://arkinetblog.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/revisiting-utopias-broadacre-city-by-frank-lloyd-wright/
I’ve been thinking about the economics of prosperous nations recently. My wife is Chinese and I’ve been thinking about why her sister’s husband, a construction worker, earns a fraction of what construction workers earn in the UK. They are doing the same job, to the same standard, so why the difference in earning power? The same could be said of many jobs – restaurant workers, taxi drivers, shop assistants, gas fitters, even car factory workers. Why do these jobs earn 10x as much in the west as they do in China?
Clearly there is a trickle-down. Taxi drivers earn 10x as much here because taxi fares are 10x as high, because businessmen can afford to pay 10x as much. Why? There must be some economic activity that is taking place in, say, the UK that is not happening in China, or at least isn’t generating the same fundamental value there as it does here. It’s these value-added jobs that are bringing in much greater wealth to the UK and other developed countries, and this is sustaining the rest of the economy at a level it could not otherwise maintain. These are the jobs that realy matter in keeping the west’s standard of living lead.
Not that I’m against rising standards of living in the developing world. This isn’t a zero-sum game. For us to succeed it does not follow that they must fail. That’s why protectionism and complaining about outsourcing and them stealing our jobs is drivel. ‘They’ deserve a fair chance and an opportunity to do well just as much as ‘we’ do.
We need to develop those activities that we excell at, and create more of them – Internet services, financial services, education, technology development, entertainment. I’m sure there are many more, and additive manufacturing and aerial logistics might come to be two of them.
That economic engine you wonder about is called “Growth”. The past Chinese and Indian economies did not grow at the same rate as in the west. the migration of western jobs to these companies is causing the convulsions in their economies as some earn near western wages while most do not. You can see this on a smaller scale if you look at the Pacific North West during the .COM bubble. Housing, property-tax, and living expenses grew so that many who were not employed in the technology industry found they could no longer afford to keep their homes. When the bubble pooped, those high paying jobs became scarce exacerbating the problem. What followed was rioting during the world trade conferences.
I expect we’ll be seeing the same played out in these 2nd world economies in short order. The rate of outsourcing was unsustainable as is their rate of growth. As the US rebuilds from the mortgage collapse we’re seeing an emphasis on reclaiming those outsourced jobs and more ‘buying at home’. It’s what investors call a ‘correction’. Perhaps it’s already happening and we’re just not seeing it for what it is.
“What if we all could fly?”
Still not too likely. My 1960s upbringing had promised we’d be there already; yet really no closer. The next frontier? I don’t see any yet.
I fear now, more than I hope. Blade Runner/Soylet Green creators unfortunetly have the more apt script for our future.
https://www.milnermotors.com/aircar.htm
**Let’s** take this a step further. Why are **frontier’s** optimistic?
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Why use the possessive?
Where did you see the word “frontier’s”?
Sorry…found the typo: “Why are frontier’s optimistic?”
Somewhat concerned about the vulnerability of all these systems to one EMP bomb… them dang Entrops, ya know.
The Oceans are our next frontier –
Friontiers are opened by people seeking something: space, opportunity, adventure, freedom …; and those running from something: persecution, crime, proverty …. Either of these require a new place, somewhere free from the status quo. The 2/3rds of the planet covered by the oceans are the only readily accessible terrain for expansion. Floating cities and possibly cities on the seafloor itself can provide the opportunity to create and explore new ways of living. I expect “explorers” driven by a desire for voluntary communities, sustainability, economic opportunity or simply “the new’ will colonize the seas in the very near future.
And give Bob an excuse to have a plane.
Well of course that is a key consideration – and it actually does fit quite well.
One word…Bioshock.
Dear Bob,
If your start-up can reduce the cost of fabricating small gas turbines by an order of magnitude or more, then it will change a lot more than the private aviation industry. How can I invest in your startup?
I was hoping that the MIT research to produce micro gas turbines would take off, but that appears to have stalled or perhaps even crashed. (pardon the flight references)
Best wishes and Admiration,
Walt
Mars! Get us to Mars and see what happens along the way. Space is the final frontier….
What happens along the way is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and a generation of engineering talent to put a handfull of people on an irradiated desert a long, long way away. If you want to put people on irradiated deserts, there are several much more hospitable ones much closer to home, and mostly they have not yet been colonised.
But I’m a Brit, and it’s your dollars, so knock yourselves out.
Well, what would you rather waste a generation of engineering talent and billions of dollars on? Nothing would be as big a milestone as landing a person on another planet. If nothing else came of it, we’d recover in a few generations but the accomplishment would live forever.
How about not wasting it at all?
To make Mars work, you would not be landing one person, but several dozen at a time. We don’t have the infrastructure to do that yet.
America was not colonized by rowboat from Europe. What we have now are effectively rowboats in space. We need to advance to caravels. Then Mars will be possible.
Oh, and don’t forget. Colonization in the 15 and 1600’s was very expensive. Most colonists came over as indentured. That means they were bound to serve some master/corporation/government for several years to pay off the passage. That was true for many Spaniards (Military soldiers who stayed after their terms were up, or who stayed in the military in the ‘New World’) and for the English in James Town and Massachusetts (Indentured or corporate employees for both James Town and Plymouth Bay) and continued to be true up until around the mid 1700s for most. Blacks of course were often left ‘indentured’ for life in Spanish, Portuguese and British colonies. But then, they were already in that condition when they were purchased in Africa from the Muslims.
There may be similar binding conditions on the early colonists in Space. It’ll take quite a while to work off a $50 Million Dollar (or Euro) ticket price. That looks to be the price of admission right now to that new frontier.
So what about air traffic control? It would be a nightmare!
uh, no, The System will slot you into openings to get you where you want to go.
might have to take a few detours along the way, make sure you have plenty of Proton Power in the tank in case, say Pittsburgh and Knoxville are blocked, and you have to go to Noo Yawk City (git a rope!) by way of Montreal, Toronto, and London..
but we’ve been doing it for 25 years on The Connected Internet, so the prototype exists for routing personal flying cars instead of data packets.
“…but we’ve been doing it for 25 years on The Connected Internet, so the prototype exists for routing personal flying cars instead of data packets.” I’ll bet the open source guys will be cursing the day they decided to not get a patent.
Sort of like an IP address for your plane….. hmmmmmm…… I LIKE THAT.
So basically ATC is made up of Cisco Routers that direct your plane to the location you want to go. It could really happen!
Cringely, Whatcha Think?
Interesting issue about air traffic control. Seems like every decade for the past several there are reports that the latest version of computer code intended to control air traffic is having problems. There was the latest edition of this problem in the news the other day. Even though PATCO (ask your parents) dropped out, it still seems that there needs to be a “man in the loop” to keep aircraft from running into or over each other, so it doesn’t seem likely that automated air transit will be available soon. Comparing physical traffic with routed electronic packets is like comparing traffic with molecules. Neither sustain any damage from “collisions.” Imagine what happens to cars in a crunch at rush hour, and now put that a thousand feet in the air. What was the old expression? Gardez loo!
My dad was FAA – chief of Will Rogers Intl in OKC when the PATCO strike happened. It nearly worked him to death.
Everytime people talk about flying cars & stuff they don’t figure in blondes putting on make-up & talking on a cel phone while they drive.
Any system would have to be heavily automated.
The FCC has been resisting automated ATC (Air Traffic Control) for several decades. It’s a Union thing. It’s been technically possible since the late 1970s. The ATC right now IS automated, but ‘overseen’ by humans. There was a strike under Regan over this same issue. Regan wanted to reduce the pay of the controllers, and increase the number of planes they would each be responsible for by partial automation. The issue was that after a few years, computerized ATC would allow more planes to be controlled, without any of the high paid controllers. Of course the Union went nuts!
In the end, we might see something like the current situation in the railroads, where the firemen are still required on the trains. A firemans job is to throw the wood on the fire for the locomotive to keep the steam generated. The Diesel Electric Locomotive.
This situation is what has kept the flying car out of the skies for the last 15 years. There is no way to control them, or to license the pilots.
It’s kind of like the Space Shuttle that way. It’s much more about jobs than it is about technology.
To make flying cars, or any form of common, easy, cheap personal air travel possible will take more ATC than is humanly possible. But, it is easily computer possible.
Image trying to remotely control 10 Million planes over Manhattan (a typical commuter day). Any main frame computer now sold could do it, but no conceivable team of humans could.
The planes themselves would be able to handle it. It’s really no harder than the schooling of fish, and a Zebra Fish with a brain the size of a pin head does it quite well, all the time.
It just takes faster than human responses. The responses themselves are simple. But, they need to be fast, and communication between planes is essential.
The problems with Bob’s vision is much more political than technical.
Oh, keep your seat belt fastened until you are on the ground. Parking will still be a problem, so send the plane back home while you work.
A lot of these posts seem to assume a continued presence of petroleum. Help me out with this part… BP and the Oil and Gas Journal put proven reserves of oil at 1213 billion barrels (far more generous than the 850 estimated by Petroconsultants).
The Oil market report puts current world usage at just over 90 million barrels per day, which translates to just shy of 33 billion barrels per year.
That puts world supply at current usage at 37 years of oil, assuming that world usage doesn’t increase from present usage levels (I don’t think that usage has ever diminished or stayed the same year over year in the last 50 years). The 1213 number seems to include such “reserves” as Canadian tar sands, which apparently require more energy to extract than they provide. That also assumes that petroleum is not reserved at some point for military use only, as supply diminishes.
So my question…
How do you see these frontiers and technological leaps as sustainable lifestyle options in the absence of cheap petroleum. How feasible is the current size of a metropolitan area if food has to be shipped in at $20 per gallon of gas? I am not trying to be a radical here, but I cannot find any reasonable sources suggesting more optimistic numbers for the future of petroleum supply and therefor for the plastics and other petroleum products on which we rely (including components for most alternative energy equipment. What impact does this issue have on the frontiers being discussed here?
Quite correct, although I assume that Big Oil and Big Coal will at some point start sinking some of the profits they make from getting stuff out of the ground for virtually nothing into major renewable projects, even investing just 10% of thier profit margin could see the construction of solar, wind, geothermal and tidal projects get off the ground rather quickly. Unfortunately this will not occur until they maximise thier profits from selling all the oil and coal first and get massive subsidies from the taxpayer by way of some carbon trading scheme do the investment in renewables.
It’s not that we can’t replace oil and coal for energy production its just that companies are making a greater return on investent not to at the moment and governments and the people they represent don’t have the will to force them. Bit of a lefty idea but how about instead of a Tax passed onto the public by putting a price on carbon we just increase the company tax on coal and oil company profits and sink the money into renewables?
Oh, I know carbon trading (tax) is not the flavour of the month in the US but it’ll be forced on you when China introduces one and sticks tarrifs on imports from countries that don’t)
I do agree that the deminishing oil supply is more of a concern in the production process. Cheap plastic is the cornerstone of most products in the developed world, when oil goes prices will increase dramatically as it will have to be produced more expensively through artificial means rather than as a byproduct of the refining process.
I think the biggest problem is finding a sustainable way of having portable power. All the electric cars etc require batterys or cells that need rare earths so at some point we’ll have to find a means of producing electrical storage in a medium that is low cost or alternative energy storage methods. Maybe renewables to grid, grid to homes, home production and storage of hydrogen for cars and Bob’s planes?
We will not be able to replace oil and coal. Do the math:
http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/10/sustainable-means-bunkty-to-me/
they already do sink a substantial portion of their profits into ‘renewables’. But, the renewable energy solutions available today are not enough, and they each have their own environmental impacts and problems.
The big companies are also looking to increase the reserves. There is oil under a lot of the earth. The problem is that a lot of the reserves are quite deep. There are some wells operating today that require almost as much oil to extract as you get by burning it. There are some reserves that are known that are even deeper than that.
Shale oil and tar sands have until quite recently fallen into the too difficult to recover category. Recently I have seen some information that this is changing.
I remember as a kid seeing a research project on the Utah-Colorado border. There is an oil shale deposit there that has reserves about the size of Saudi Arabia. But, it is a high parafine oil that is stuck in the shale. It literally takes more energy to extract it than you get when you burn it. In the late 1960s they were burning oil from other places to inject hot steam and then collect the oil. It was pumped up to a holding pond and allowed to cool, then cut into blocks and shipped to the refinery north of Salt Lake City on flatbed trucks! It was of course an experimental exercise. Amoco lost money on it, but they were willing to spend a million or so a year on the hope that they might some day make money on it. I think they are still doing things like that. some of them pay off, some do not.
There are also oil shale deposits that big in Canada. There is a large deposit in the Dakotas that we didn’t know about 5 years ago. Most of north Canada and Alaska isn’t explored yet for oil. There is more to find. No one has looked in Greenland or Antarctica yet. That’s an area larger than all of Saudi Arabia, the Arab Gulf States and Texas combined.
We will probably never really run out of oil. But, we will reach a point where like with alcohol biofuel, it costs more than it is worth. But we aren’t there yet, and won’t be for more than 20 years. Yes, there seems to be a finite amount of oil. But then, there is also a finite amount of oxygen in the air.
The limit for oil use will probably be the environmental impact. For coal, it certainly is. But, until we have a safe and reliable replacement, we can’t replace either of these two.
Nuclear looks like the best bet, but we don’t really want to use 50 year old technology to do it. We can do better than we have there. We should.
Nuclear energy suppliers are as big as Big Oil. So I wouldn’t worry about the oil companies destroying them, but Nuclear is a favorite boogy man for the entrops. This even though the present nuclear history, including Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukishima is still more than an order of magnitude safer than either Coal or Oil.
Consider how many millions have had their health adversely damaged by coal smoke, from the 1860’s to today from London to China.
Before you try to include Hiroshima and Nagasaki in that, remember that if you do, you need to include the residents of places like Dresden and Tokyo in the other side of the equasion too. After all, bombs are different than power plants. If you want to include bombs on one side, you need to include the bombs on the other side too. Nuclear still comes out more than an order of magnitude than chemical systems (Oil and coal are chemicals), even for explosives.
What this means for us is that we still need to be looking for new ways to get energy. We should also be looking for ways to use the energy more efficiently.
Both will help us in both the long and the short run.
I’m thinking of not the fuels, but plastics. A lack of hydrocarbons for plastics would cause some big issues with all of these tech devices.
Quite right. Long before oil runs out, the cost to produce it will scale back a good chunk of the economy. I’m thinking horses will make a comeback. Invest in buggy whips! This is a very optimistic forecast because humans will finally live sustainably and let nature breath a little.
Bob, seriously — a flying car in 10 years? They must have legalized crack in Santa Rosa. Look how much cars have changed in 10, 20 and 30 years. Right — almost nothing.
In 100 years, if you want to build a 747 you’ll have to send 1000 illegals to the dump with instructions to find 10 million aluminum cans. That will be the only place to find scarce resources.
Wrong. We already mine the dumps for Aluminum. It’s cheaper than getting it from ore. Recycling is already a very big business in most of the world.
In 100 years, there won’t be enough unreclaimed aluminum left in the dumps to pay the illegals you refer to.
Weren’t all historic “grand” frontiers defined as something that we were compelled to win? Isn’t THAT what is missing – the compulsory “we must do this before [insert undesirable competitor] does!” statement?
It’s the statement like “Iraq has WMDs” that polarizes us to action instead of “We need to go green to save the environment.”
If you don’t have this compulsory statement, isn’t the goal just a fad instead of a long-term trend? Recalling the ABBA effect column (yes, I’m a long-time reader), we need to watch out for that…
-KLH
Burt Rutan used to give a talk whose central theme was that the future of aviation is avionics. This was a correct prediction. Brian Hayes has an excellent column on computer driven cars here: https://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/2011/6/leave-the-driving-to-it, but his arguments are even more applicable to computer piloted aircraft.
However, any wonderful new technology, even one that replaces roads and cars with aircraft is insignificant if people can’t afford a new car, let alone an aircraft, because they have no skills that are sufficiently valuable to their fellow human beings to be worth high enough wages. The new frontier must be education for this reason. We can’t expect people to earn a decent living in the 3rd millennium when they have started their education with math teachers who are unable to calculate the area of a rectangle.
That’s easy…the area of a rectangle is the space between the lines.
I value your vision for the future, Bob. The manufacturing revolution that is just starting with these 3D printers will come, and personal autonomous flight will be another great feature of the “Jetsons” world to finally arrive in our world. I really enjoy reading your commentary.
Your statements about why the economy is not healthy and what could fix it pained me to read, however.
“Optimism is not in great abundance these days so irrational exuberance isn’t either.”
There is no way your conclusion follows from your premise. In this world of 7 billion people, there could very well be a great abundance of “irrational exuberance” these days, whether or not there is a great abundance of optimism. Look at the US Treasury bond market, for instance. Or look at China’s economic activity. They can only build empty cities for so long, but that doesn’t stop them from chugging along in their irrational exuberance for empty cities.
“liberal” did mean “something good”, but what did it mean exactly? Liberal used to mean “imbued with liberty”. Liberty is the concept of “the freedom to act without interference”, and is certainly “something good”. A liberal economy, an economy “imbued with liberty”, that is “an economy free to act without interference” is what we need. No doubt additive manufacturing and autonomous flight would be with us even sooner in a liberal economy.
The freedom of “hoarding cash in case they need it” is certainly a liberal idea. It contains the concept that “they” know best what to do with “their” money.
Liberty is the freedom to act without interference, but what is the economy?
The whole economy is about humans coming together to fulfill each other’s unfulfilled needs. I fulfill my employer’s need for IT system administration in exchange for some of our society’s “medium of exchange” (AKA: money), then provide that medium in exchange for the output of others in the economy. Be it housing, food, transportation or any other good or service in the entire economy that might fulfill my unfulfilled needs. So, I fulfill my employer’s needs and they in turn fulfill mine. A “mutual fulfillment society”. Also known an “economy” – the same thing.
I don’t “win” and my employer “lose” when they pay me, and my landlord doesn’t “win” and I “lose” when I pay my landlord what I earned for working. Both are parts of the same “whole exchange”. If I didn’t think it was better for me to work at IT administration in exchange for the money I need to pay for what I want in life, or if my employer didn’t want my IT administration services more than the money they paid me, the entire exchange would never have happened. There is a “win-win”, in every single transaction, or NONE OF THEM WOULD EVER HAPPEN. Anyone can check out “Human Action” by Ludwig Von Mises to see what he had to say on the subject, if they like.
Because of this, it is not “entrops” that can possibly break society. This is pure “shoot the messenger” thinking, at best. Remember when you yourself said,
“Those times were crazy yet we didn’t feel crazy, we felt excited”?
Not only did people who invested in the “pie in the sky” dot-com bubble enterprises lose money, they were “breaking the economy” by generating a broken economic structure in the economy. I should say, they were mislead into “breaking the economy”, but they spent the money and they did the “breaking”. Not the ones who may have told them not to, or to stop, or that the whole thing was a bad idea, or that something was wrong with the system that would produce such activity. It is these mistaken actors who broke things. What is responsible for all of this “broken economic activity”? That is a different question.
In other words, why would people waste their money on mal-investments, a rash of projects that were not going to succeed and could not have succeeded while lacking a basis in reality, and even feel excited instead of scared while doing it? There is a reason for that…
…There was so much interference in the economy that “mal-investment” looked “exciting”. They did not look like what they were because there was a funhouse mirror in the economy that made them appear to be wonderful. How does that happen?
Since every human action is, at its source, “someone with unfulfilled need”acting to alleviate that need, then what we call “economic transactions” are when one of us acts to fulfill the needs of another of us in exchange for a return action which fulfills their needs in return. “The economy” is just the sum total of the various different exchanges between productive members of a society acting together to fulfill unfulfilled needs. Again, anyone can check out “Human Action” by Ludwig Von Mises to see what he had to say on the subject, if they like.
Now, how does this economy or “mutual fulfillment society” get “broken”. This is not rocket science…
It gets broken if it is interfered with. Let me demonstrate.
How does a “mutual fulfillment society” get interfered with? When someone “imposes” instead of “fulfills”. The difference between those two concepts is the same as the difference between the concepts “to limit or impose choices” and “the freedom to act without interference”. You could simply call them “tyranny” and “liberty”, if you like. Many throughout history have.
In common sense language, what is it to “interfere” in the economy? Since an economic transaction is the willing exchange of one thing for another, you “interfere” in the economy any time you limit or impose choices on what or how exchanges should be made. These are not “win-win” transactions. They are “win-lose” transactions. Someone is forced to “lose something” in order for someone else to “win something”.
In our society, we use a “medium of exchange” to broaden the range of exchanges that can be made. In other words we use money. Money can be used “in the productive economy” or “against the productive economy”. It can be used “by the productive economy” or “taken from the productive economy” to impose a choice on its use. Money used “against” the economy is used to punish certain actions by prioritizing other specific actions when people make their decisions. Money can be taken from the productive economy any time money is removed from the possession of those who earned it through personal productive contributions, and is spent by those who did not earn the right to spend it themselves. People in society who do this are usually called “thieves”.
In light of all of that, walk through this scenario…
1. Some privileged group infringes on “the freedom to act without interference” of the rest of society by creating some of society’s “medium of exchange” (money) without first contributing their effort in the economy to earn the right to exchange their productive output for the productive output of other actors in the economy.
2. That privileged group then spends that fake money to lower interest rates for as long as they can (which cannot be forever).
3. The longer this interference continues the more people re-order their preferences based on the new lower-cost of borrowing more capital (investing capital on equipment and moving operations to cheaper locations to replace now comparatively more expensive workers, for example).
4. The longer this interference continues the more total number of exchanges in the economy occur which accommodate these re-ordered preferences based on the lower cost of borrowed capital (which “raises” the “comparative” cost of labor, for instance).
5. The more people re-order their preferences and the more affected exchanges occur, the larger becomes the portion of our economic structure best suited fulfill those needs based on an artificially low cost of borrowing capital (more tractor-making and overseas outsourcing firms, but less staffing agencies, for example).
6. When this distortion must finally withdrawn, because it cannot be paid for with new money forever, the portion of the economy now structured to support exchanges based on artificially low capital costs is not able to best provide support for exchanges based on the updated preferences of people, now that the cost to borrow more capital is back up at the market rate (now it is expensive to buy tractors and move operations to labor markets that are not as cheap now, but it is hard to find qualified workers because there are less agents pooling access to their services now, for example).
7. The economy now must shed the distorted structures and replace them over time with structures suited to support people acting to fulfill unfulfilled needs based on a market rate of borrowed capital. This is a painful process that hurts people and takes time to complete; leaving us with a more stunted level of economic progress than if the artificial and distorted extra demand had never occurred in the first place.
This is “tyranny” in practice. Someone debased our currency, taxed us with higher prices in the economy as a whole, robbed the “savers” in the economy of income on their savings, created a distorted economic landscape that robs our economy of ultimate growth, subsidies the use of capital and so is in opposition to the full use of labor, and enriches the “Goldman Sachs” of the world by paying them to interfere in the capital markets with fake money. All in one fell swoop. By the way, whether the extra money goes to increase the price of US Treasuries or milk doesn’t matter, it still inflates “prices in general” and is a symptom of inflating the currency.
Take a look at all those “winners” and “losers”. “Losers” are a hallmark of an “imposed” economic transaction.
You, Bob, shouldn’t blame companies for hoarding cash (aka “capital”) when they might see an international financial crisis coming that would increase the cost of capital so accumulating it now, when it’s cheaper, makes sense. Also, none of us know how much the government will decide it needs to take from us, because it decides we should pay our productive economic output to “comply with” or “pay for” the next huge government mandated economic-interference program to be created or to run out of money.
The problem isn’t that people don’t know how to correctly spend the money they earned through productive economic activity; the problem is that there is so much interference in the economy that we need to look through a funhouse mirror at the economy in order to try to determine what each of us should “really be doing” to best fulfill a real need.
You know, instead of trying to fulfill a need that only exists because it has been “stimulated” into existence and will soon be gone like a popped bubble.
The lack of liberal principles in our economy is why our economy is not healthy and correcting that by providing the ability for all to freely act without interference is how to fix it.
In economic circles, Hayek is out of fashion these days, but he summed up many of your position quite nicely in his 1974 Nobel Prize lecture titled “The Pretence of Knowledge”:
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/1974/hayek-lecture.html
Those who see the workings of an economy as a thing, an object to be manipulated or controlled, are largely delusional – they operate under the pretense of knowledge. Ignorant politicians (and bloggers) are easy prey for the “experts” who will show them 1000 ways to eat all they like and still lose weight…
The “Fear the Boom and Bust” video on YouTube is great. Check it out, if you know Hayek you’ll no doubt enjoy it. 🙂
Same with the sequel, “Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two”
Hayek deserves his notoriety, but Mises does not deserve the lack of notoriety he currently enjoys. 🙁
I prefer Ludwig Von Mises to F. A. Hayek, but their economics are mostly the same (Hayek built upon Mises, after all).
It is the “political theory” that is really different between the two. I prefer “Human Action” by Mises, vs “The Road to Serfdom” by Hayek. Hayek does recognize “the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning”, but then eats that same poison by recommending government control of economic decision-making in certain cases in the same book. As if something can be both “right” and “wrong” at the exact same time.
Mises thought we all had the right to secede, right down to the individual, if government failed to protect life and property. Which is definitely the case when they take our life and property. So many current and recent past policies of the US Government qualify in this regard it is very saddening in my opinion.
“As if something can be both “right” and “wrong” at the exact same time.” It’s not the something it’s the amount of the something.
“Less wrong” does not equal “right”
10(the danger of tyranny) = 10(government control of economic decision-making through central planning)
10000000000000(the danger of tyranny) = 10000000000000(government control of economic decision-making through central planning)
I don’t see which one is “right”.
They are both just different levels of “as wrong as you make it”.
There is no “right” present in the concept of “as wrong as you make it”.
Again, “Less wrong” does not equal “right”
See what I mean?
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Ten years ago I was involved in a small Australian start up ISP specialising on providing Apple Mac’s with Internet connectivity and support. It was an exciting time and I was co-operating the business with the eccentric, pot smoking MD. I distinctly recall an article we came across one day, through one of the now-defunct news channels we subscribed to. It clearly outlined Apple, and specifically it’s CEO at the time, along with Bill Gates and others, having invested in a new, undefined but exciting “future technology” that would “change the way cities are designed, how people live, and how they travel” among other things (and words to that effect). We mused at the time at what that could be, eventually agreeing to some sort of anti-gravity travel technology. Ten years on and with this illuminating thread; coupled with Apple and the industries “mobility” approach this past decade and of course SJ’s passing – I now am reminded and wonder about this little news snippet from long ago. Does any one recall this? Bob, what might you offer from your underground knowledge? Because this is starting to ring familiar… The only debatable point perhaps being the projected timing…
Oh, I remember that. Some grand inventor had this great plan that would change the world.
Turned out that the inventor had created the Segway. Not exactly what I was looking for, if you ask me.
Oh, is that all it was. All this time I’d wondered, and now I discover it’s just a tool for certain types to get from Walmart to MacDonalds. How unfortunate.
Let us hope Steve Jobs therefore thrust all his remaining energies into Apple for the next complete generation.
And I trust that this has happened. It will be different, but I feel optimistic about Apple and its future. Remember – they survived the difficult times of the 90’s. They will again. The landscape is different now.
Back to point – Cringely may be on to something with his suggestions however I believe the world is in for a bloody hard transitional phase before then and over the next twenty years.
There was also the flying car from about the same time. The car worked (Google Moller flying car). But, it couldn’t be licensed in a way that might make it economical due to political pressure.
America’s dilemma.
When the density of the population increases, a more complex and regulatory culture will develop. There will be a need for more “traffic rules” to avoid conflicts. Just take a look at Japan, which has had a high population density in centuries. You will hardly be able find any, more complex, culture.
The American culture is a culture that has arisen in a society with low population density. Liberalism is a mindset that is perfectly suited to a population with low density. Therefore, the U.S. industrial and innovative power has become so strong.
The rest of the world have tried to copy it, but with greater or lesser success. Liberalism is not so prosperous in populations with greater densities. It has been necessary for others to develop their own way. But Democracy and freedom have been proven to be necessary, in order to create something similar. The more freedom, the closer one gets.
In today’s America, the population is being divided: Half of the people lives in densely populated areas – in the big cities and the rest live in low populated areas. This means that half of the population demands more regulation and the other half is fighting against more rules by all means. Even trying to remove the rules there are.
This dividing makes it impossible to establish a common goal for the entire country, and makes it difficult to get out of the financial mess the country is in now. I guess that this is what the “new frontier” is all about, creating a common goal for America.
Because of this paralysis, the U.S. will also lose influence in the world. It is becoming clear that President Obama, to a certain extent, is being ignored by world leaders.
This is how the world look like, seen from my armchair in Copenhagen, where I write this on this wonderful device (Designed in California). You guys have placed a sophisticated communication device in all people’s pockets and spun the world into a spiderweb of Internet connections, but strangely enough it has not made the Americans go out into the world, no, the opposite has happened, the world has come to America.
America is probably so big that you believe you do not need the world. The fact is that the world knows more about America than Americans know about the world.
In fact, you are the new frontier. You are the natives that are being studied and conquered. Not physically, but mentally.
>>America is probably so big that you believe you do not need the world. The fact is that the world knows more about America than Americans know about the world.
In fact, you are the new frontier. You are the natives that are being studied and conquered. <<<
Wow. You know, this might just be right. Alarming, but possible.
Tell that to the Arabs.
Hollywood seems to be conquering the world. Too bad, as they represent the worst in America most of the time.
I’ve long thought the next frontier would be automated travel, both via air and land. Can how sending an automated, unattended car to pick up your middle-schooler would change your life?
While the technology exists and will become affordable in time, I don’t see the US as a place where these technologies will flourish. It’s not that we lack vision; we are hobbled by a litigious society that will bankrupt the pioneers in this field and starve them of initial capital.
Accidents will happen, albeit at a significantly lower rate than if humans had been at the controls. It’s not hard to envision nearly every accident resulting in a massive lawsuit against the manufacturer. Our legal and political systems are long in the tooth, and I don’t see a ready path for improving them.
For these reasons and others, I believe the first automation of travel systems will be for package delivery. Imagine an automated go-cart driving a package to your house. Of a small UAV dropping it at your door. Or a slow side-walk crawler that delivers groceries from the store. The reduced efficiency of a smaller cargo capacity will be more than offset by not having to pay a driver. The services will likely start with premium ‘hot-shot’ delivery. Instead of paying a driver carry an urgent package across town, send it on the bot.
These smaller devices will be easier to work through governmental licensing because the damage they can cause when they fail is small.
Bob, do you actually believe the gridlock in Washington is caused by people who really want to destroy society? I don’t even know what to say about that. The sheer irrationality of that proposition makes it difficult for me to imagine that a guy as smart of you could be convinced of its truth under any circumstances.
Listen, here’s the thing. Democrats and progressives sincerely believe that government spending is good for the economy. Tea party Republicans and libertarians sincerely believe that government spending is bad for the economy. There can be no compomise on those perspectives, because they’re polar opposites. Neither side can compromise without doing something that they sincerely believe will be bad for everyone. No one in Washington believes that what they’re doing is going to destroy society. It’s an ideological stalemate between well-intentioned people who have diametrically opposed opinions on the subject of economics.
The only reason I can think of for why you wouldn’t see that is that you’ve never been exposed to the idea that government spending is bad for the economy, because that idea is simply never presented by the mainstream media or any liberal news sources on the Internet such as Politico or Huffpost.
Good call. Very good call.
Yes. And explained perfectly.
Government Spending is bad for the economy!!?!!?!?
Oh dear… what should we do….
I know
1. mothball the military, close all bases everywhere
2. Close all national parks and services
3. Shut down the transportation department
4. Shut down agriculture department
5. Shut down health and human resources
6. Close all of our foreign embassies and other international relations
7. Cut back on federal administration to a minimum with members of
congress only earning $25K per year so they know how if feels….
Oh but maybe you meant the so -called “entitlement” part of the budget?
If so sounds like you’re one of the “starve the beast” crowd.
I wish you had the balls to actually say that you want to kill Medicare/Medicade and social security. Then I’d tell you what I really think. And by the way most people who think like you don’t know that 80% of personal bankruptcies in this country are cause by protracted medical expenses and most of that group had what most people would think of as adequate health insurance.
Jerrold, please check out the YouTube video “Fear the Boom and Bust”. 6 or 7 minutes of that video are entertaining and informative on ideas you may not be familiar with. There is a part 2, as well. Feel free to check that out.
I am sorry you don’t yet understand why I say what I do, but it is because I love this American society, even though I think the American “State” is robbing it blind and a vast drain on its productive enterprise.
There was a time in this country when everything on your list was simply how things were. The military was a collection of citizens, paid by taxes on other citizens, willing to die to protect us from specific and actual threats, and were only paid and only did so when such actual threats needed to be handled. State Militia was a common term for it. Farmers only left their farms to fight for something that mattered enough, otherwise they kept farming.
My opinions are educated ones based on “classic” economic thought once very commonplace in this country and in no way can be compared to the “starve the beast” crowd.
My opinions are instead based on sound economic principles. Principles generally agreed upon during an age of reason. Now we have the age of decadence in my opinion, and we are paying for it as a society. The general consensus in 1921 after the quick and deep economic crash of 1920 was that it was a correction needed after the government interfered in the market. The government quit interfering and the correction was over in a year or so. The government did not quit interfering in the economy after the crash in 1929, caused by their interference, because there were enough “true believers” in government in power by that time to decide government interference was the key to solving the problem. That is how we got the “Great Depression”. It was not so great as we were lead to believe. It was simply pushed into greatness by those in government trying to do what they thought was best.
I would be happy to discuss these ideas with you in a reasoned and reasonable way, but you should know that generation after generation of thinkers and philosophers have thought that “this time was different” or “this theory is different” and brought their society’s’ to ruin in the process with many along the way telling them “I am telling you this will not work out”.
The path we are on is not a healthy one. There are numerous predictions of the housing bubble, the financial system collapse of 2008, the current nation-state/government finance bubble, even the Saving and Loan crisis of the 80’s, the Asian contagion of the early 90’s, the Mexican Peso collapse, and the dot-com bubble. Each time, the song from the powers that be in banking and government was “wow, who could have seen this coming?”, and “we’ll fix it because this time it’s different.” Leaders of central banks around the world are notorious for this.
If you care to, please head over to http://mises.org/daily and pick some titles that interest you and see what is up in the world around you.
If you were really interested in how the world works, you might do better to simply read Ludwig Von Mises “Human Action”. You can get a copy from the same site, above.
As far as Social Security and government health care “insurance”…
If I wanted a 0% return on the money I contribute to my retirement, and with the side benefit of being jailed if I don’t contribute, and yet another benefit that the system will not even exist when I go to use it without yet more money stolen from the productive economy by the government as taxes, I would love Social Security.
Also, if you think it is an accident that the government is neck deep in the Health Care “insurance” industry and it is broken, you might want to look around the world at the state of Health Care in general. The more the government is involved the worse it gets. Check out the Netherlands and the UK and the state of their system, including the pay of Doctors as a disincentive to join the profession.
You could also, before going off on ideas because you don’t yet fully understand the alternatives, look into how we in this country took care of each other before it became common to think that the “government owed it to us”. Unemployment insurance. Health insurance. There were organizations that supplied these things before the government did it way less efficiently. That system actually worked. You had unemployment insurance and health insurance separate from your employment and compensation package that was portable from job to job, and the expenses and costs involved were very transparent and you could bring your concerns to the organization of very likely people in your neighborhood if you thought there was a problem and switch provider organizations if you and the provider could not come to an understanding. That sounds like what all of us want today, back to the future I guess.
By the way, you cannot “insure” yourself against turning 50, and thus needing a prostate exam. You have to “save” for that. What we have done is socialize the cost of health care, not really provide “health insurance”. It is a system doomed to failure. Sorry to be a messenger with bad news 🙁
Oh, one last and important thing…
The History you think you know was mostly fed to you as child in an institution that had its curriculum approved by the government. The cause of the Great Depression, WWI and WWII, what got us out of the Great Depression, what ended child labor, and just about everything else you learned about in school (depending on your age) did not come about how you think it did. There is a reason for the statement “History is written by the victors”.
Again, check out some of the articles at http://mises.org/daily and check out the links in those articles to other discussions of relevant topics, if you don’t have the time to devote to “Human Action”, which would be very understandable.
What about, “Why don’t we think gridlock in Washington is just a function of government?”
No one is perfect, but I just found this quote and find it very appropriate to what you are saying Mark:
“The great virtue of a free market is that it enables people who hate each other, or who are from vastly different religious or ethnic backgrounds, to cooperate economically. Government intervention can’t do that. Politics exacerbates and magnifies differences.”
-Milton Friedman – New Perspectives Quarterly, 2006: 18
Oh hogwash. There have always been voices calling for more spending, less spending, bigger or smaller government, the gold standard, silver, blah blah blah. And the press has been covering this for years. It isn’t new.
What’s new is the inflexibility and refusal to deal with the bad guys across the aisle, or to think in partial measures. There’s no compromise now, and the non-absolute words like “less” and “more” have been stricken from acceptable parlance. The biggest driver of this is the speed and precision with which appeasers can be called out and assailed if they cross some imaginary line drawn by any number of citizen journalists, media voices or political operators. It really raises the bar on how much political bravery it takes to get anything done and it’s shameful that people are not calling out those responsible for it.
At some point someone has to start the job of putting one foot in front of the other and walking these problems back to solutions. It won’t be easy and it won’t happen in one giant program. Some folks will just have to cut a little here, spend a little there, tax a bit over there and close some loopholes on that side. It’s not magic, it’s just a lot of hard work that won’t happen if the harpies on either side continue to attack anything they see moving.
Mark, read what “Progressives” write about remaking society. They claim to be Liberal, but Bob is right there.
“Conservatives” are not conservative either. Conservative means against change. Wanting things to stay as they are. Does anyone who follows “Conservatives” like Michelle Bachman really believe that she wants things to stay as they are?
No, “Conservatives” are really just “Progressives” with a different goal of what they want to change everything into. Different in goal, but not really different in action.
And, I’m a Republican. But, also a realist. I just believe that Republicans generally do less damage than Democrats do. That is a historical observation. It’s been true since 1912 (Wilson). Before that,since 1868 the Republicans seemed to do more damage than Democrats did (Since Grant). Before that, the Democrats did the damage (Since Jackson).
Congress seems to be more a source of the problems than the President does. My vote for Congress is probably more important than my vote for President.
I sometimes with that there was a good choice. Political lobbying money seems to prevent that from happening. Changing THAT would be a real new frontier.
I guess the unspoken ultimate frontier would be a marriage of the two: additive manufacture of autonomous flying vehicles — Cringetopia!
The difference between a quest and a frontier is, in the practical sense, how many people go. Quests are small groups with limited resources. Frontiers can accommodate many people as long as they are willing to take the financial and personal risks. Every frontier has been powered by a enabling revolution either in thought or in technology And the space to do it. (land and or resources) The frontier of the old west was powered by the industrial revolution. Without the technology of the steam locomotive, rifle and other technologies the pioneers of the old west wouldn’t have gotten very far. Every frontier shows the convergence of technology into a new or different place. The next frontier will be no different.
Computing and digital Convergence is the wave that is changing everything. The standard media of music, books, magazines, newspapers and Television are being digitized and reorganized. Information is being exchanged at rates not ever seen in human history. The critical mass required to really leverage our technology against the problems of this century is forming as you read this. Whole markets are being re-shaped. This convergence will touch everything that exists all over the world…. in time.
Therefore, It is not enough to simply predict the next great technology breakthrough. One must know what it means. Steve Jobs did not invent most of the ideas that he made famous. Simply put: He just knew what the technology meant. He knew what the technology would do to change peoples lives and how that would effect society as a whole. He could see convergence. There are not many who can, and even less those who are in a powerful enough position to affect change.
The next frontier will be pioneered by those who not only invent new technologies, but by those who know what it means. Knowing what the technology means and leveraging that, will determine the fate of every corporation in the world. With convergence, technology is no longer the domain of geeks in silicon valley. It is the framework from which we will build our future.
Convergence IS our manifest destiny.
Without the technology of the Locomotive or the modern Rifle, California got Statehood, as did Texas (Gold Rush and Mexican War respectivly) and the Mormons settled Utah and the Great Basin, plus areas from Montana to Arizona, and parts of Canada and Mexico, along with eastern Nevada and Western Colorado, with bits of Washington, Oregon and New Mexico thrown in too. There the motivation was religious freedom, which the ‘settled’ portions of the US wouldn’t really permit. (read Thoreau. Catholics were severely persecuted in Massachusetts, and Quakers in much of the North East. Mormons weren’t at all alone in this.)
In fact, without settlement already there, the Transcontinental Railroad would never have happened. The railroad needed to have markets or even the land grants wouldn’t have been enough.
No, the advances you mention were not generally available until after the Civil War. They may have been important in the settlement of the Great Plains, but not for the far west. That was settled years earlier.
I don’t know if it’s right to criticize people who save money, or who don’t spend money when they don’t want to. I earned it, I’ll spend/invest it as I choose, dang it! That’s the right we all earn by earning and possessing the money. Well lets put it this way: you can criticize me for earning money and not spending it the way you want, and I can criticize you for not earning the money and thereby not having control of it. There, that’s fair.
I think the next frontier won’t be moving into the mountains, it’s too harsh up there and besides that’s where we have driven all the wildlife, and they really have nowhere else to go. I think the frontier we all face, since livable space is finite, will be Skyscraper City (www.skyscrapercity.com). Manhattan has 67,000 persons per square mile and Upper East End has 153,000 persons per square mile. I think it was Bradbury? Asimov? wrote the SF story describing the future when all of Earth had been overbuilt by a continuous skyscraper city, and all food is derived from Algae grown in the oceans, and the last zoo on the planet lives in one guy’s apartment and the officials came to put down the last of the animals so there’s a bit more room for a bit more people. Population was measured in billions of tons of human brains, or some such (heh).
Hopefully such a bleak future never comes to pass, but with rampaging capitalists rushing to develop all the liveable land on Earth we do seem to be getting thrust towards that future.
Fear not, my friend. It will never happen. We’ll run out of energy and the metals to build those sky scrapers in less than 100 years. It’s not a star trek future. It’s a horse and buggy future. I’m sorry I won’t live to see humans living sustainably with nature. A beautiful future.
Fission and Fusion. We won’t run out of energy. we will just have different sources. For that matter, we won’t run out of oil either, but there will be reasons why we won’t want to burn it.
For a Horse and Buggy future, you will have to kill off 9 out of every 10 people. Sorry, but the odds of you being in the group of 1 out of 10 that survive is very great. The same is true for me and a lot of other people.
No, when it gets difficult, we will go Nuclear. Railroads and after a little while roads will readily be converted to electric. Nuclear will power it all. Fear of Nuclear will fade when the choice is go nuclear or die.
I hope it doesn’t come to that, but if the Climate Change people are right, it will.
The alternatives just don’t work. We can only get a little from Solar, and Wind Power effects climate too. Mostly in natural water transport, like rainfall, but in direct kills of wildlife too. (There is a reason that they won’t let you near the big windmills. Ecologists have gone around them and counted the dead birds and bats. There is a large ground cover of dead insects too.) Biofuels are already being rebuffed for increasing the carbon footprint of those nations turning there, and several famines or near famines are being blamed on the US and Europe literally burning food as fuel.
Sorry, but there is no good replacement for Nuclear. Look at Germany. In an emotional reaction to the earthquake and tsunami damage to a plant in Japan, they are closing their reactors, and replacing them with coal. With a nebulous promise to convert to ‘natural’ sources ‘later’.
Meanwhile, the people downwind in eastern Europe will suffer from the pollution for decades,
In Japan, meanwhile, no one has died from the reactor leaks, the second worst in History, but tens of thousands have died from the earthquake and tidal waves. Europe meanwhile ignores the real casualties while moaning about the ‘predicted’ casualties, none of which are real. And, the area around the reactor is recovering, as expected. In 20 years or so, the danger will be gone. Even around the Chernobyl reactor, worse by over an order of magnitude, the countryside around it is slowly recovering.
What the Japanese or the Germans do long term is still to be determined, but, given the proven effects of coal burning, and the reality of continued rise in oil prices, there will be nuclear in our future. Since Fusion doesn’t work yet, that means fission. The French have embraced that. I would predict that in future, Germany will be buying a lot of electricity from the French. That is good for France, and bad for Germany, but it is a natural consequence of using emotion without careful reason to decide the course of a nation.
Here in the US, we wouldn’t do that, right?
Oh wait, Obama is president. We’re screwed.
Bravo! At least for the most part. When I first read your idea of the next frontier I rolled my eyes a bit, more than a bit really, and thought Bob’s going “Plane Crazy” on us again. Here we have the blogger’s personal interests overshadowing reality. But after thinking about this for a couple days, I’ll say I’m game.
First of all you hit the issue of lost hope in our nation and economy dead on. We’re losing jobs to Asia and Eastern Asian by the multitude, and our government is doing nothing about it, except holding the door wide open and just letting it happen. Well, in one aspect this is a great opportunity. You and I can start a company, transfer manufacturing and/or services oversees, and cash in just like the large companies and corporations. But this eventually sinks the boat. How do we cover our costs for schools, roads and bridges when the tax base evaporates, much less all the jobs lost? Okay, getting off soap box.
Your idea can lead to new businesses and industries that are difficult to export, creating jobs, tap into an otherwise low value resource, etc.. These are the types of discussions we need to seek out. The old is the old, let the copycats commoditize the heck out of what we’ve given them and let’s set toward the new. But I’ve got one critical remark. I’m not interested in flying, I’m fine with driving fast cars. Do you really think there’s enough interest, or interest can be rapidly developed toward developing inexpensive flight? Like I said, I am game to the idea. But you really need to poll the masses thoroughly on this.
Well Bob,
Your heart is in the right place at least. I have higher expectations of 3D printing than personal flying vehicles since the former has only market forces to contend with whereas flying cars will have to do with flying lawyers and the government in general. Neither technology will go down a predictable path…so says our techno-history.
Some production objects need an economy of scale to succeed, others don’t. You’ll know some of which is which but others will surprise you. As long as the market forces remain amenable and the technology and company management is good, 3D printing will enjoy a expanding horizon of opportunity.
Now as for flying vehicles… I see a few problems on top of the aforementioned fuel supply, such as:
1. Sounds to me that a lot of things involving infrastructure. An automated air traffic control will require commitments at city, state and federal levels.
2. A vehicle’s internal failsafe controls need to be coordinated with other vehicles in the area in the event of air control breakdown (write to me and I’ll tell you about rail cars).
3. Air control breakdown ( it will happen) will need to be failsafed to secondary systems in an instant.
4. Independent routing in low population rural/mountainous regions must smoothly mesh with high density flying freeways.
5. Compared to your standard automobile, and certainly the electric car, private flying vehicles are going to be the extremely noisy and not suitable for landing/takeoffs in anywhere near a high density neighborhood.
6. Where are we going to find companies to underwrite the liabilities for all the companies and citizens that get involved with all of the above?
7. An airline is large enough that it can deal with lawsuits and settlements out of court. How prepared is the average citizen to deal with this?
Though real entrepreneurs will just ignore my negativism and forge on ahead.
You are correct that the legal problems are the worst. But, given that I will respond to your ‘negativism’. Note, I am a Bob, but not the Bob you wanted.
1. ATC will be needed, and will have to be much better than the one we have now. This is correct, but the systems have been available to do this for over 20 years now. It is a political problem, not a technical one. for this reason, I would predict that we will see these systems adopted in some other country long before they come to the US. this is much more a problem of Unions with friends in Congress than anything else. We have had the ability to institute the solution for this within any two years since Jimmy Carter was president. We just haven’t. I am afraid I don’t see the US doing it any time soon. It’s more likely in Europe or Asia than here. Like many Medical advances, the US will be the last to get modern ATC systems, not the first.
2. Fail safe Controls. Yes, but this is a minor issue. Such fail safe controls are already common in aircraft, and your car is computer controlled. How often does it fail? Most traffic accidents are caused by human error, not by computer failure. This will be just one more. The most common failsafe is for you to have not one, but three computers operating the plane. That is the backup plan. The Moller Flying Car also has backup on the engines. Yes, safety is an issue. But a manageable one.
3. Fail safe ATC. This is an issue. It will probably be solved like it is presently. If one area loses the controller, another area controller takes over. Having two or three deep controllers with reserve capacity is the solution to this problem. Like the problem, the solution has been known for decades. You know that we don’t lose very many airliners due to loss of ground control. The same solutions will work with automated ground control.
4. Yes, there will be ‘lanes’ reserved in air spaces above crowded areas. It isn’t just a question of preventing collisions, but there must be space allowed for the turbulence created by the other vehicles. this is the reason that aircraft wait several minutes to take off after a large plane takes off or lands. the ATC system will need to allow for this turbulence. Wind speed and direction will also affect this. Computers do this much better than people do. Human ATCs use both rules of thumb, and computers to allow for it now. An automated ATC would do some of the same, though probably with less rule of thumb and more calculation. it really just impacts how big the computer cluster doing the ATC work needs to be.
5. Most of the designs I have seen for this, including the illustration Bob shows use ducted fan type of blades. These are fairly low noise. With an electric motor driven version, I would expect a VTOL to be no noisier than a motorcycle. Certainly not noisier than a muscle car with ‘tuned headers’ and no effective muffler (think late 60’s glass pack). Neighborhoods have been living with these for decades. It will be quieter than a helicopter. (most of the nose from helicopters comes from the turbine engine, or from the tip noise.)
6. Insurance companies. The same place you find companies to underwrite your car for up to a Million Dollars in damages today. The rates will be based on actuarial figures. Computer operation and duplication of safety features will probably mean lower rates than you currently pay.
7. No different than you car today, verses the Bus company. How do you ever afford a private car when you can’t possibly afford the kind of legal defense that an operator like Greyhound can? Yet, somehow we continue to see private cars on the road. i guess we will just never figure it out.
I hope this clears up a few things for you. Bob’s idea is doable, but we will probably see in Japan or Italy a decade before we see it here in the US. It’s a problem of politics, not of technology. The technology is already here. All of it. That’s speaking as an Engineer. If we as a country wanted to do it, it would be done in less than three years.
The people who control the world won’t let it happen. We need to get rid of them first. Before we can go after the next frontier, we need to be able to set out on it unhindered.
Check out http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com to see what’s holding us back. Then, tell us how we rid ourselves of the few powerful people who control all our lives through debt. After we’ve figured that out, the skies the limit…
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The “people who control the world” are the capitalist “overlord” class. Otherwise known as…
“Consumers”
Anyone who spends money will “control the world”, as you think of it. Every time a consumer decides to borrow money they don’t have to buy what they have allowed themselves to be convinced that they “need”, it is a victory for the interests you accused of having the “control”. Each bit of spending in the economy CREATES the shape of the economy.
The biggest thing these “debt holders” have been able to do is convince the capitalist “overlord” class that they are powerless. “Us consumers are not in control, so why don’t we buy a huge TV on credit instead of pay down debt and live responsibly?” Then we wonder why the economy is not in good shape like a “responsible” economy should be.
The economy is, as has already been mentioned, the aggregation of all our individual economic choices/actions. When we decide to buy a new car on credit, a house on a 30 year loan (look into the history of 30 year loans for houses), a TV on revolving store or financial network credit, it is the capitalist “overlords” that CREATE the debt holders you are upset with.
That and when we allow the government to take our money and spend it as if they earned it like the capitalist “overlords” did, when they simply stole it to spend it in a bid to also shape the economy into what they and their supporting interests think it should look like.
Frontiers are conquered by individuals, not governments. No one is holding anyone back but themselves. There’s no such thing as a national economy. There’s just an aggregate of individual economies. Frankly mine is better now than in quite some time, no thanks to anyone in Washington or elsewhere. Why? Because I’m determined, and working, to make it so. My favorite tee-shirt from when I lived there was “Alaska, Land of the Individual and other Endangered Species”. Like Bob, our life has taken us from the midwest, border to border and coast to coast. Every move was an individual decision based on personal need at the time. My favorite quote of Steve Jobs, “you can’t connect the dots looking forward.”
My personal frontier is my four adopted children, ages 6 through 11. How best to prepare them for the world they’ll be living in. How not to be a cog in someone’s machine (unless for the time that is best for them). I’m debating whether I’d be better off buying some cheap land (accessible by road) where I can build a home with my own two hands. Giving me the freedom and flexibility to educate them free of grades, labels (ADHD, learning disabled, etc), schedules and the current factory model of education. I think the spark is still alive, even in the oldest.
The next frontier is an old frontier.
Soon, governments all over the world will find that they can no longer afford the welfare they have promised: early retirement, pensions, free drugs, free food. It is not only the case that they cannot afford the welfare benefits, they cannot afford anything. Debt payments will exceed everything. At that point they will repudiate their debts (go bankrupt) and the citizens will be left to their own devices. The State will have been the god that failed. And this is a good thing: people will have less faith in government and more faith in themselves.
Unfortunately, this leads temporarily to less specialization (division of labor), so there will be less prosperity for a time (say, 30 years). After that, things will improve, assuming government doesn’t regain its gargantuan and all-encompassing position.
Good call.
This is what happened to Germany in the hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic in the 1920’s. By the end they had one gold mark worth about a trillion paper marks. It did not take them 30 years to recover, however.
Once they were put on sound monetary footing, they made a DRAMATIC amount of recovery THE NEXT DAY.
This experience by Germany as a country is why the entire Eurozone now looks to them to “bail them out”. Germany was scared straight in the recent past regarding government spending and the serious negative consequences of it. Not so very recently that they are not trying to find a way to bail out the Eurozone, however.
Maybe someday we will see similarly denominated US Dollar notes. 😉
Sad.
Bob,
As a pilot I imagine you have some idea of the bureaucracy of the FAA, and how the ATC infrastructure will not be made to support pilot-less vehicles for decades after their technical feasibility, and the laws permitting them decades after that. FAA doesn’t even permit UAVs in existing airspace without severe restrictions. A UAV vendor was at Oshkosh to raise public awareness of the problems. UAVs have so many public safety applications they are presently prohibited from. An intermediate step to your concept would be to have a company like FedEx own a fleet of UAVs for regional distribution.
I don’t think it’s safe to assume that people will like a plane where the failure of the computer means probable death or injury. You’ll always want a fail-safe, and a BRS chute only goes so far. Easier by far to convince people to get in an automated car that still maintains its regular controls. Luxury cars already have devices to prevent departing a lane, rear-ending, and to protect the blind spot. These are just baby steps towards having a fully automated vehicle. That will be a day! It would obviate the need for owning a car, greatly increase the efficiency of our infrastructure, the speed of our transit, and safety.
One idea you hint at with your additive manufacturing factories is self-replicating machines. Plant one in the southwest and come back in ten years to 10,000 km^2 of solar panel. Put several around the world, feed them the stock they can’t make themselves, and let them build out the bulk of our renewable energy supply. Plentiful energy and factories that can build anything… that would be an interesting future to be part of.
I believe that the next frontier will include a combination of 3D printing and improved transportation [mobility] (such as the air cars, faster trains) as well as improvements and wider acceptance of nanotechnology, augmented reality devices and Brain Computer Interface (BCI) technologies.
There are many mental blocks that need to be removed first, and the iphone, ipad, tablet technology and the “mobile movement” is starting to remove some of those mental blocks.
One of the biggest mental blocks I run into is the idea that I have to be in an office to perform my work tasks and duties, and accessible for face-to-face personal contact. (Yes, I do understand and accept there are certain things that have to be performed face-to-face.)
When in actuality, most of the face-to-face contact I encounter in an office is detrimental (interruptions, chit-chat, etc) to work due to the need for social interactions. When we (as a society) change / separate some of our current social and work behaviours through the use of some of the above mentioned technology, what a different world it would be.
Think about this, look at the use of Apple’s FaceTime and iChat or Cisco’s telepresence and other such technologies on a personal basis compared to using the same technologies on a work related basis.
I know there are some companies (people) that use this and enable it, but I also find that there are a lot more who use this technology on a personal social basis, and forbid the use in their daily work life because it’s “not the same”. I know there are security issues to think about but still, think about the basic usage model and what it would mean to open this up in your daily life.
Perhaps the best thing about the office is that it defines a place of work, and keeps it separate from personal time. The most fearful thing about mobile work is that it allows work to take over your entire life.
I’m currently dealing with end-of-life issues, and there’s a bit of a truism I’ve heard numerous times, most recently this weekend: On their deathbed, many people say, “I wish I’d spent more time with my family,” and nobody says, “I wish I’d spent more time at work.”
That said, I work from home occasionally too. But I keep it under pretty tight control, and don’t let it just encroach on my personal life or family time.
The next technology frontier might be as you describe. But the big facts of life for anyone under 30 are climate change and peak oil. So before we wagon out to the next frontier, we need to take care of some deferred maintenance. There is a lot of jobs in making every building in America energy efficient. Likewise for creating a distributed energy production web using solar and mini turbines. Work on improving food production and nutrition while reducing greenhouse gas. And finding the political will to mitigate the widening income disparity. I think that’s a homework assignment that will keep us busy for a few decades. Then we can fly.
Now you hit my real issue:
We’re not ready for The Next Frontier.
We have too much power, too much capability for the general level of wisdom we already show. Moving to “The Next Frontier” will no doubt confer additional power and responsibility on us, and without additional wisdom to go with it, all of those other aspects of life will just get even worse.
Or another way of putting it, in a world where there are nuclear, biological, and information weapons, you can’t afford to have nearly as many hotheads around. We’ve managed with the atomic bomb since WWII principally because only a few world powers had it, and they were able to keep their heads. Sometimes in crisis situations, and sometimes just barely, but they managed. Containment really only worked for 50-60 years, and nuclear weapons have been starting to leak out for a decade or two, now. So far everyone has stayed sufficiently cool, but there’s no guarantees. Nor is that touching on biological or information weapons, though the latter is just barely starting, and we’re just starting to become vulnerable.
Or for another example, closer to home. Society frowns on almost every form of excess – eating too much, drinking too much, too much sex, too much violence, etc. There’s one excess that’s not frowned on, but rather admired and held up as one of the highest goals – accumulation of wealth. We have people now with so much wealth that they can’t possibly spend it all – they could only lose it through bad investment. It’s so far past ordinary physical needs that those needs no longer reach longer reach consciousness, and sympathy had disappeared for other who don’t have enough. Such accumulation of wealth is not bad in and of itself, but the world spends much time in a zero-sum game, so massive accumulation of wealth in one place means massive poverty in another. I won’t say if it’s right or wrong, I’ll simply ask if it’s wise.
Science fiction has utopias and dystopias. In Star Trek there’s enough to go around – everyone has sufficient food, shelter, and clothing. From a basis of “enough” the perpetual quest for “more,” particularly at the expense of others, appears to be defused and considered silly or outdated. The dystopias (like Neuromancer, for instance) tend to look much more like current society.
In particular, technology in the past century or so has been disruptive in its essential nature. Steam was disruptive to fortunes based on animal power, and practically everything since. But today we see that The Powers That Be understand “disruptive” and are doing what they can to slow it down, between IP Law (patents, copyrights, DMCA, ACTA treaties, etc) and a growing anti-science movement of the past decade or so. Science Fiction even has a new genre I’ve seen multiple instances of recently, a kind of “end of time” novel, where things are just winding down to a stop. Science Fiction tends to reflect society. I wonder what literature was like when the old Islamic empires forsook science, back around 1300-1400 AD or so.
I agree with the need for a new frontier, but I think we’ve got some serious work to do on ourselves before we get much more power. Another way of putting it, in a world with nuclear bombs and the other powers we’ve got, human nature simply isn’t good enough, any more. We’ve got to do better.
Or another way of looking at it, is it the “Drake Equation” or the “Drake Test”? It my not be “Is there intelligent life there?” so much as “Does intelligent life survive there for any real amount of time?” If it’s a “Drake Test” are we on the road to passing or failing?
Thank you for this column Bob. After reading the comments in your previous post on this topic, I felt despair. Despair seeing people who think that the best solution to our problems is to annihilate a large part of our population, and despair over the bleak future ahead of us.
The human race is better than that. We all need to be better than that, and come up with better solutions that respect each other and our childrens futures.
Thank you for reminding me that there are still people out there trying to make this a better world.
Believe it or not, transitioning to environmentally sustainably energy.
Wood, coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear fission, wind, hydro, solar, geothermal, hydrothermal. We have tried all of these, and none of them, or any combination of them is really ‘environmentally friendly’. It is not a question of having no impact. That is not possible for 7 Billion people.
If it’s minimum impact, then it’s nuclear. But, the nuclear we have now isn’t good enough. All that ‘waste’ plutonium and other highly radioactive stuff is really just unburned fuel. The nuclear we have now is inefficient. Efficiency is good. We should try to achieve it.
For long term, we need nuclear generated electricity.
Solar can help on existing buildings, but is a disaster ecologically if widely applied for large amounts of power. Things just don’t grow in the dark. Efficient solar uses the sunlight. Inefficient solar must use more land. It’s that simple. then, you don’t have darkness, but you do have large shaded areas. Look at any existing large solar power project. Goodby trees, goodby grass. Goodby animals that need trees and grass. And that ignores the poisons and pollution produced in the manufacture of the solar panels.
Wind power has the same kind of drawbacks in different ways. Physicists have calculated the amount of power we can pull out of the wind before we begin to drastically impact the world climate, and we are within a power of ten of the limit right now. Think vast deserts across North America and Europe. The Sahara is largely a man made desert (or rather goat and cow made).
Do we really want another Sahara in the Great Plains, or across central Europe? We are on the path to creating it right now.
We are probably already impacting the local climate of areas with large wind power installations. Areas downwind of Californians big wind farms are now experiencing droughts. So are areas of Europe that have installed large wind farms. Is there a connection? it’s probably too soon to conclusively say, but…
We have already caused famine with trying to switch to bio fuels. That is the real cause of the ‘Arab Spring’. The people there are much more likely to turn to a religious dictatorship to fix the problems of hunger that were created by the European and American fad for ‘clean energy’ than they are to pick a democratic government they will see as ‘weak’. Those people know what their problems are, and high food prices are very high on their list. Extremists will make big promises, and paint the West as the cause. Don’t look for moderate victories there.
Geothermal appears to cause earthquakes. Most people don’t like having earthquakes. Look at what the recent one did to Japan. Not to mention San Francisco around 20 years ago, or the east cost last year. Minor damage to the east coast, but still, more costly than Katrina.
Good hydroelectric sites in Europe and America all already have dams Except teh Grand Canyon, which the Federal Government in Washington doesn’t want to fill up with water. There is also the problem of whole ecologies drowned. Hydro is already used, or rather overused if you are environmentally inclined.
Tidal power is not applicable to very many sites. It blocks ports needed for shipping in most of the best sites. It also harms tidal estuaries needed by many commercially valuable species.
Coal and oil have their own environmental problems, You may have heard about some of them.
So, what are you considering.
I have looked at all the power options out there, and there are drawbacks to all of them. I see nuclear as the least damaging one. Please note that I didn’t claim it is safe, just not as harmful as the others over the long term, or even over the short term.
The most damaging option is to do nothing, and allow complete ecological collapse as people are reduced to doing what they are doing in sub-Saharan Africa right now, and eating ALL the animals they can find and kill, including many endangered species that are officially protected. Gorillas, chimpanzees, lions, elephants, gazells, zebras, rhinos, all look like food to starving people. That even includes monkeys and rats. It is the first step in collapse of the areas ecology. Not the last. It is also happening right now. without help, it will only get worse. To prevent it, a whole lot of electrical power will be needed, as well as farmland.
Fusion is more promising than fission, but so far it doesn’t work. When it does work, we will probably find more problems we just aren’t aware of yet. That has been the case with all of the power supplies we have investigated so far.
Satellite solar looks promising, but the cost to set it up is so high. Maybe in a hundred years or so. It’s not doable today.
Have I left out any major power sources?
Well I’d just like to point out that based on your first three American frontiers-
“the wilderness, then industrialization, then consumerization”
A “combination of additive manufacturing and autonomous flight” sounds a little limiting.
Personally I’d say a little purging is need after all that, but that probably won’t happen. Instead we will get something more along the lines of what has already started- everyone is famous (because everyone will most likely work to that end, as they did your first three).
You will only get to fly if the FAA lets you. Good Luck with that.
As I noted in the last article. Manufacturing will be the key and you hit on it. The USA is close to and will be the cheapest place to make almost anything you want. You would not believe the quality of machine shops in peoples garages with CNC machines, Autoad, etc.
Case in point: You know they have finally made toilet paper with out toilet paper rolls. I do not think the Chinese came up with this. What will the cub scouts use now for projects?
The real solution in the short run is positive Immigration. I believe we will pay with your TAX DOLLARS for immigrants with engineering degrees to come to Detriot, Flint, Boise, Kansas City, Cleveland etc. They will be required to live in one of these cities for ten years or more and the good old USA will make it worth their while. Why?
Every Legal Immigrate is worth half their wages in TAXES to the good old USA. Now there seems to be no one in favor of this but when congress finally figures this out. Their standard of living depends on this. You watch I believe each immigrate engineer will get $100,000.00 from you the tax payer to move to the good old USA. More if he has a good job. Just so congress can keep blowing a trillion a year.
Each engineer will generate $50,000 a year in taxes. Congress will figure this out soon enough. $100,000 out once and $50,000 in for the rest of their lives. ROI three years. Even a congressman can figure this one out.
100 million more immigrants that could generate up to $50 trillion tax dollars a year. Now Congress will screw this up and we will probably end up with around $10 trillion a year. But that is better than where we are now.
I hope no congressional staffers read this but this is the future.
By the way one of these guys will make your JETSON. To bad for you it will be your kids or grandchildren who actually get to use it. FAA you know.
Not a bad article, but far from your best and it seemed to wander a bit along several points. In The Prophet, Almustafa suggest that out houses “are not too near together” which is what you suggest, which can if done poorly would lead to waste and sprawl. The frontier might just be carbon. To put your house on a mountain peak might require plowing under an equal amount of abandon city rowhomes. The frontier might be human suffering. There isn’t a food or wealth problem on this planet, there is a distribution problem. CEOs with $10k shower curtains? Really? What could $10K do as micro loans?
What if all compensation were capped at say $5M/year and our best and brightest were compensated in other ways such being recognized by how much good they accomplished?
The star athlete gets a contract for $5M +10M that they have to distribute responsibly that year. Those that do the most good are recognized at an annual gala. Who knows? You could have guys like Mike Tyson winning a Nobel prize…
Hi, Bob. Does this qualify as a new frontier?
http://blogs.hbr.org/haque/2011/05/is_a_well_lived_live_worth_anything.html
Let’s concentrate on protecting, nurturing and growing the spirit of discovery, invention and enterprise that has made USA what she is today. Frontiers will present themselves.
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Nanotech and smart materials can fundamentally change how we work. Energy independence would free up about 1/2 our gdp and millions of man hours to explore new frontiers. Biotech holds the promise of fundamentally changing who we are. Real AI opens up space exploration.Direct brain machine interfacing would change everything about how we work and entertain ourselves.
Real population control would return many lost frontiers. Fair enterprise. and social justice would expand who can contribute to our society.
3d printers and jet cars??? So you can mar a mountain with your house???
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